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Alex Andreou, Naomi Smith, Kenny Campbell
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  • Big Apple Won - Big Orange Zero
    The future's bright, the future's not orange. Perhaps. Trump may think he's the ultimate New Yorker but the Big Apple turned rotten on him, as Zohran Mamdani became the first mayor to attract a million votes since the 1960s, on an uplifting night for Democrats across the US. We take a deep dive. And, talking of rotten, we look at Rachel Reeves' attempts to prepare us all for a bruising Budget. Uh-oh. Plus - what to do about the far right radicalising the country online. Alex Andreou and Kenny Campbell are joined by two top-tier guests: former special advisor Salma Shah; and geopolitical mega-brain and newest member of the Quiet Riot family, Arthur Snell. ***SPONSOR US AT ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠KO-FI.COM/QUIETRIOTPOD⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠*** CALLS TO ACTION Listen to Arthur Snell's latest Behind The Lines, with Emily Thornberry and SUBSCRIBE! Find out more about Relief International's work in Sudan. “Trump has made Democratic voters feel extremely threatened and disempowered, so I think the big takeaway is that, if you do that, the moment voters have the power to punish you, they will take the opportunity to do so and in large numbers.” “The number of votes Cuomo got, would have won any NYC mayoral election since the mid-90s. And yet, against Mamdani, he was nearly 10% short. Turnout was extraordinary.” “There is more space for radical policies now, than there has been for the last several decades - whether you believe in left or right radicalism.” “What Mamdani shares with people like Polanski, but also Trump or Farage, is that he acknowledges a decline and seeks to reverse it. Whatever one thinks of their proposed solutions, tonally, that is very different from centrist politicians who, on the whole, seek to manage and tweak.” “There is a tension inside the Trump regime between the desires of an aging billionaire with pretty toxic behavioural traits and no impulse control, and the calculated Stephen Miller approach of trying to turn America into a corporate oligarchy.” “In all administrations, you have big figures. In this one, you have only Trump. This creates practical questions of comms management and how to run a news grid. Because he cannot do it all, all the time.” “Trump has moved from outright hostility to Ukraine to a sort of grumpy neutrality, where, as long as someone else is paying, he is happy for weapons to keep flowing.” “The original sin of this Labour manifesto was how the gov’t boxed itself in on taxes. But the time to rip the plaster off, rather than peel it off slowly, was when they took over.”  “There are strategic missteps by the Tory leadership. Apparent weaknesses are being allowed to be exploited by people like Jenrick - or any backbencher looking for a bit of profile.” “We do have quite an inexperienced House of Commons, on all sides. And that is bad for scrutiny, it is bad for legislation, it is bad for debates.” “That gap, between an attack and proper information coming out, is their golden hour to sow discord. And it feels strategic and deliberate. Because after information is out, it might suit them or not. The confusion of the aftermath is all theirs.” “It’s up to all of us to close the gap between the Prevent programme theory and its practical delivery and to be a lot more open in discussing the signs of someone about to fall into the radicalisation pit, so we can catch them before it’s too late.” “We tend to obsess about the ideology of radicalisation, when more often the issue is the psychology of individuals feeling a profound lack of status.” • Buy something from ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠our bookshop here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. • Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. • Or visit our website ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.quietriotpod.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. With Naomi Smith, Alex Andreou and Kenny Campbell. ***SPONSOR US AT ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠KO-FI.COM/QUIETRIOTPOD⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠*** Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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  • Sunday School: Halloween House(s) of Horror
    This week, a nod to Halloween, we have a real CREEPSHOW. Alex Andreou and Kenny Campbell look at how Buck House, the media and the Metropolitan Police have dealt – or failed to deal – with the fallout from Virginia Giuffre's long and ultimately tragic campaign for justice. Where does the PR end and the restructuring of the Royal Family begin? And, if the Met won't act on behalf of a woman who was allegedly sexually assaulted multiple times by a now former prince, will it at least act to protect itself? While Buck House has wrestled with the Andrew scandal, it's also been a suitably frightful Halloween week for those connected with Rachel Reeves' Dulwich house. We try to disentangle the actual story from the ongoing hit jobs on Reeves and other senior Labour women. And for some good news, we turn to the Dutch election, where a double-digit lead for Gert Wilder's far right party, turned into a defeat in the last month of the campaign. And we look at some actual horror – classic and modern horror flicks that have, literally, kept us awake. Insert your own scream here. ***SPONSOR US AT ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠KO-FI.COM/QUIETRIOTPOD⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠*** “It’s striking that we were discussing grooming gangs in midweek and Epstein’s trafficking now. We are essentially talking about the same crime, but in very different surroundings.” “The Palace has been dealing with these allegations for the thicker part of a decade now. And the Met Police finds itself in the extraordinary position of lagging behind even Buckingham on taking action.” “There is a concerted effort to make this into a positive story about the monarchy ejecting this one bad apple. As a foreigner and a republican, I find it bizarre that there is no discussion on whether we should also look at how inherited privilege passes to undeserving people and is used by them. Not a peep.” “There is a higher level of scrutiny on women in politics than there is on men and a higher level of scrutiny on progressives than on conservatives. When those two streams meet, it’s hard not to note the gusto with which Labour women ministers are pursued.” “There’s a sense that Labour - and Labour women in particular - have got no right to be in government and the old boys’ network has got to work in tandem with everybody else who wears the right tie to shorten the road.” “In the meantime, Dick Schoof remains Prime Minister [of the Netherlands]. He says Santa Claus is likely to arrive before the next coalition agreement. I think it’s as likely that the Easter Bunny may arrive before it.” • Buy something from ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠our bookshop here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. • Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. • Or visit our website ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.quietriotpod.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. With Naomi Smith, Alex Andreou and Kenny Campbell. ***SPONSOR US AT ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠KO-FI.COM/QUIETRIOTPOD⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠*** Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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  • House Rules: Defending democracy when the game is rigged
    Lies, lies and more lies. How many lies can our institutions survive? And why are we so bad at defending those institutions? Alex Andreou and Kenny Campbell are joined by a Quiet Riot favourite – Christina Pagel, a professor of operational research at UCL as well as the creator of the smash hit service to humanity that is the Trump Action Tracker. Is Britain vulnerable to the sort of institutional vandalism that Trump had visited on the US? Heck, is Britain even *more* vulnerable than the US? Talking of which, Alex and Kenny also look at the latest madness on Planet Trump and ask just how much crazier this could all get. Oh, they do mention Celebrity Traitors yet again ... but only because Prof Pagel is a fan. Honestly. ***SPONSOR US AT ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠KO-FI.COM/QUIETRIOTPOD⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠*** “Justice is meant to involved a crime, finding out who did it, and prosecuting them. What Trump is doing is saying, openly: here are the people I want prosecuted, find me the crime. And the Republican politicians are cheering him on, which is really scary.” “I’m not sure whether [Proposition 50] is the right thing to do. I worry that it accelerates the degradation of norms. But given how flaccid the Democratic response has been to Trump in general, I’m just glad that someone is doing something.”  “The vandalism that is occurring to the pillars on which democracy in the US stands will tie up the system for years and is so extensive that it is hard to fight on all the fronts that have been opened.” “Without a basis of evidence, there is no evidence-based policy. Without a common framework of accepted fact, there is no rational debate. The undermining of expertise and its institutions is one of the key preconditions of authoritarianism.” “Many functions of the state - from food safety to regulation of medicines to weather forecasting - require expertise and so are allocated to dedicated bodies. Those bodies should be allowed to operate only on the facts - not on politics. Their expertise protects our way of life.” CALLS TO ACTION • Check out the Center for Democracy and Technology in the US and Europe • Read Prof Pagel’s report on our institutions and share it with MPs and other people in positions of influence GRIN AND SHARE IT • Find out more about how AI is actually helping the planet • Buy something from ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠our bookshop here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. • Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. • Or visit our website ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.quietriotpod.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. • PHEW!!! With Naomi Smith, Alex Andreou and Kenny Campbell. ***SPONSOR US AT ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠KO-FI.COM/QUIETRIOTPOD⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠*** Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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  • Sunday School: Well Plaid!
    When the trust vanishes, you're finished, whether you're Labour in Caerphilly or a celebrity in BBC's The Traitors. Alex and Kenny pore over three examples of democracy in action from a hectic week – Plaid Cymru's historic victory in Wales, a new Deputy Leader for Labour in Westminster and ... a bizarre litany of bad voting decisions in The Traitors. All three have involved some measure of chaos but only one of them had both Alex and Kenny fighting for the remote control. Guess which. ***SPONSOR US AT ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠KO-FI.COM/QUIETRIOTPOD⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠*** “Caerphilly is where two trends met. The first is ‘I hate Labour’ and the second is a trend for smart, strategic, tactical voting. So, the reason people were looking for a tactical option other than Labour to defeat Reform was unhappiness with the gov’t, but the magnitude of the swing implies to me something tactical at work.” “There’s a stickiness to politics and my question here would be, how many of the people who lent their vote to Plaid or decided to give another party a try, will stick with that next time - especially, given we are close enough to the Senedd election for it to make a difference.”  “The media treat Reform as an entirely new party that had no presence in Wales. I would point to the last European election where the Brexit Party came top with 33% and suggest that Reform are merely the latest iteration of The Farage Party and very much had a presence in Wales.” “One thing we can say from the Caerphilly result is that the next Senedd election will be a realignment, rather than a usual hold-the-line election. Plaid is very well placed to become the largest party - or, if not, a key player.” “The message from Caerphilly is very clear to me: One-third of the vote is not enough to get Reform elected, if the other two-thirds get their act together.” “Intelligent people frequently act stupidly - and, in my experience, the more intelligent the people, the more stupidly they are capable of acting. Because intelligent people have confidence in their views. In a game like The Traitors, confidence can give you a really bum steer.” Buy something from ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠our bookshop here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Or visit our website ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.quietriotpod.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. With Naomi Smith, Alex Andreou and Kenny Campbell. ***SPONSOR US AT ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠KO-FI.COM/QUIETRIOTPOD⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠*** Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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  • Zack to The Future: The rise and rise of Zack Polanski
    Special guest Zoe Williams (and young Ruby), discuss the week's big stories with Alex and Kenny. What is it about Zack Polanski that seems to be taking the British left by storm? Has Corbyn and Sultana's 'Your Party' missed the boat? Will the Caerphilly by-election become a test case? AND how is it possible for AI solutions to be both at the fingertips of every minister, to answer all the UK's problems and simultaneously incapable of being regulated? PLUS - regular feature 'Wokey Dokey'. ***SPONSOR US AT ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠KO-FI.COM/QUIETRIOTPOD⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠*** “The fundamental problem is that progressives are drawn towards consensus and the far right is not - they like division. So any attempt to engage in discussion involves us moving further towards them, while they never move towards us. It’s as much physics as it is ideology.” “The far right in the UK - and the US - are wishing civil war as a sort of cleansing act. I’m much more scared of that language of cleansing violence than I am of a few guys sticking fireworks up their butts on their way back from the football.” “The thing with Zack is that, even though I really notice his background as a storyteller, the result is more than storytelling. He can make you believe that things are possible. And in the current environment, that is massive.” “Hope is the last vestige of rascals in public life.” ***SPONSOR US AT ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠KO-FI.COM/QUIETRIOTPOD⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠*** Buy something from ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠our bookshop here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Or visit our website ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.quietriotpod.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. With Naomi Smith, Alex Andreou and Kenny Campbell. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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