TMT:41 Tony Harlow on How to Break More UK Superstars & The Future For Major Labels
Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Tony Harlow, CEO of Warner Music UK, to explore his career journey from jazz records to the boardroom, and what it means to lead a major record label in the era of AI, streaming, and cultural shifts.
During their chat at Warner HQ in London, they talk about Tony’s early days in record stores and at Blue Note Records, his global adventures across Australia and the US, and the lessons learnt from running labels like V2 and working with some of the biggest names in the business.
The pair also discuss the challenges facing UK music exports, the evolution of major label culture, and what today’s artists need to break globally.
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TMT:40 Robert Horsfall & Sonia Diwan On AI's Big Legal Challenge and the Battle for Better Artist Contracts
Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark sits down with Robert Horsfall and Sonia Diwan, founding partners of Sound Advice.
As leaders of one of the UK’s most respected law firms for artists, songwriters, and music entrepreneurs, from brokering major label deals to championing fairer contracts in the streaming age, Robert and Sonia bring decades of experience - and plenty of stories - to the table.
Mark joins them at TYX Studios to talk about the evolving role of the music lawyer, the legal implications of AI in music, the streaming economy, gender equality in the industry, and why artist-focused deals still matter in 2025.
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TMT:39 Craig Jennings on Breaking Bring Me The Horizon & Why Rock Is Still a Big Noise in 2025
Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark sits down with one of the most respected managers in rock and metal, Craig Jennings, CEO of Raw Power Management.
Craig shares his stories of shaping the careers of some of the biggest names in the business, including Bring Me The Horizon, Bullet For My Valentine, and many more.
Craig also discusses his journey from the early days of the industry, to managing arena-filling rock bands. He shares insights into what makes a great manager, how artists can build long-term careers, and the ever-changing challenges of streaming, touring, and fan engagement.
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TMT:38 Megan Ogleby-Page on Running Record Store Day & How Vinyl Came Back From The Dead
Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark sits down with Megan Ogleby-Page, Head of Operations at ERA and key figure behind Record Store Day UK.
Megan shares her insights on the evolution of physical music retail, the resurgence of vinyl and indie record stores, and how Record Store Day has become a cultural phenomenon.
They also talk about Megan's journey into the industry, the challenges of running a major event like Record Store Day, and the future of physical music retail in an increasingly digital world.
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TMT:37 Louis Posen On What it Means to be Punk and founding Hopeless Records
Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by legendary punk rock executive, Louis Posen, founder of Hopeless Records.
This week, Mark catches up with Louis in Los Angeles during Musexpo week to reflect on 30 years of independent label life, how Hopeless started as a dare, the realities of the modern streaming economy, and what it really means to stay punk in a changing industry.
Louis also shares how losing his eyesight at 19 shaped his approach to life and business, why he still believes in artist-first models, and how Hopeless is giving back through its Hopeless Foundation and Hopeless Music Academy. There’s also chat about superfan tiers, ticket scalping, being called the “Paul Newman of Punk Rock”, and a few war stories from the early days of the label.
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The Money Trench (TMT) is The Music Industry Podcast from presenter Mark Sutherland and exec producer Mike Walsh, produced by Tape Notes and supported by PPL. Each Monday, we will dissect the biggest music industry news stories of the previous week, in the company of one of the industry’s most influential executives. Followed by a deep dive into that exec’s career in music, including their thoughts on where we’re at and where we’re heading. Now, TMT is here to look at all sides of the music business and celebrate the most exciting industry on the planet. Don’t start your music week without it…
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