The Money Trench - The Music Industry Podcast with Mark Sutherland
The Money Trench
The Money Trench (TMT) is The Music Industry Podcast from presenter Mark Sutherland and exec producer Mike Walsh, produced by Tape Notes and supported by PPL. E...
TMT:23 Mark Davyd on How the Arena Ticket Levy Will Work, the ‘Cultural Disaster’ of Losing Grassroots Venues, Booking Oasis on Their Debut Tour, and Taking on Simon Cowell
Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by Mark Davyd, CEO and founder of Music Venue Trust.
Catching up shortly after his front-page appearance with Katy Perry, the conversation highlights the growing international support for the Music Venue Trust, with backing from global stars and prominent UK artists. The conversion digs into the Department for Digital, Culture, Media & Sport (DCMS) committee’s report on introducing an arena ticket levy, emphasizing the critical role grassroots venues play in shaping first-stage careers and UK culture.
Mark also explores the potential implementation strategies for an arena ticket levy, shares his personal journey and passion for grassroots venues, and stories of his disputes with Co-op live, legal battles with Simon Cowell, and booking Oasis back in the day.
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Executive Producer: Mike Walsh
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TMT:22 Shabs Jobanputra on How His Refugee Background Influenced His Career, Breaking Everyone from So Solid Crew to Baby Shark, US Labels Poaching UK Artists, and Walking Away from Signing Amy Winehouse
Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by Shabs Jobanputra, founder and president of Relentless Records.
Catching up at Sony HQ, Shabs shares his journey into the music industry, reflecting on the challenges he faced as an immigrant and recounting the early days of Relentless Records. He discusses the label's first signings and its evolution over the years, offering insights into both its successes and the pressures from the U.S. market.
The conversation also touches on the decline of traditional gatekeepers in music and the growing importance of diverse opinions and attitudes within the industry. Shabs also digs into the thought process behind key signings, including So Solid Crew, Craig David, and even the phenomenon of Baby Shark.
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The Money Trench is sponsored by the PPL who celebrate their 90th year in business this year.
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For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:
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Website: The Money Trench
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If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!
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Earth/Percent
Tom A Smith
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Fourth Pillar
Sennheiser
Junkhead Studio
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Executive Producer: Mike Walsh
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1:02:44
TMT:21 Lucas Keller on the UK’s Producer and Writer Talent, What the Majors are Not Doing for Songwriters, Being Travis Kelce’s Agents and Why A&R’s Shouldn’t Have Side Hustles
Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by Lucas Keller, founder and president of Milk & Honey Management.
Catching up after two nights of industry awards and the morning after the U.S. election, Lucas digs into some of the most pressing issues facing his clients. The conversation covers navigating complex deals with multiple songwriters, the ongoing battle for fair streaming rights, and recent changes at Milk & Honey, including their expansion into athlete management. Lucas also shares insights on representing NFL star Travis Kelce and the unique challenges of managing high-profile talent.
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PPL
The Money Trench is sponsored by the PPL who celebrate their 90th year in business this year.
KEEP UP TO DATE
For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:
Instagram: @the_money_trench
LinkedIn: The Money Trench
Website: The Money Trench
GET IN TOUCH
If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!
Thanks to our partners
PPL
Earth/Percent
Tom A Smith
Aimless Play
Fourth Pillar
Sennheiser
Junkhead Studio
Tape Notes
Executive Producer: Mike Walsh
Producer: Tape Notes
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1:04:04
TMT:20 Robert Swerdlow on Protecting Artists, The Digital Entertainment Business Vs The Music Industry, ‘The Algorithm of The Soul’, Managing The La’s, Michael Kiwanuka, and Little Simz, and Getting Artists in the Big Brother House
Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by Robert Swerdlow, of Starwood Management.
With over 25 years of management experience, Robert discusses the challenges artists face today and his role in protecting them - from issues around selling copyright to the complexities of the digital entertainment industry’s close ties with music. The conversation also touches on the pros and cons of ticket touting, his experiences working with artists like The La’s, Michael Kiwanuka, and Little Simz, and the quick lessons he learned when one of his artists entered the Big Brother house.
NEWSLETTER
Sign up HERE for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories.
PPL
The Money Trench is sponsored by the PPL who celebrate their 90th year in business this year.
KEEP UP TO DATE
For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:
Instagram: @the_money_trench
LinkedIn: The Money Trench
Website: The Money Trench
GET IN TOUCH
If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!
Thanks to our partners
PPL
Earth/Percent
Tom A Smith
Aimless Play
Fourth Pillar
Sennheiser
Junkhead Studio
Tape Notes
Executive Producer: Mike Walsh
Producer: Tape Notes
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1:00:35
TMT:19 Gee Davy on the AI Licensing Battle, UMG Buying PIAS, TikTok vs Merlin, and the Latest from the Streaming Remuneration Group
Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by AIM interim-CEO, Gee Davy.
Digging into the latest industry news, Gee shares her insights on the Merlin-TikTok licensing developments and GEMA's advancements in AI music licensing. As well as discussing the journey of her winding career, from engineer, to lawyer and now Aim interim CEO, the conversation also covers the impact of Universal taking on PIAS, and the latest from the streaming renumeration group.
NEWSLETTER
Sign up HERE for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories.
PPL
The Money Trench is sponsored by the PPL who celebrate their 90th year in business this year.
KEEP UP TO DATE
For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:
Instagram: @the_money_trench
LinkedIn: The Money Trench
Website: The Money Trench
GET IN TOUCH
If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!
Thanks to our partners
PPL
Earth/Percent
Tom A Smith
Aimless Play
Fourth Pillar
Sennheiser
Junkhead Studio
Tape Notes
Executive Producer: Mike Walsh
Producer: Tape Notes
About The Money Trench - The Music Industry Podcast with Mark Sutherland
The Money Trench (TMT) is The Music Industry Podcast from presenter Mark Sutherland and exec producer Mike Walsh, produced by Tape Notes and supported by PPL. Each Monday, we will dissect the biggest music industry news stories of the previous week, in the company of one of the industry’s most influential executives. Followed by a deep dive into that exec’s career in music, including their thoughts on where we’re at and where we’re heading. Now, TMT is here to look at all sides of the music business and celebrate the most exciting industry on the planet. Don’t start your music week without it…
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