The Money Trench - The Music Industry Podcast with Mark Sutherland

• TMT:50 Jim King on Turning BST Hyde Park Into A Blockbuster Event and The Secrets Of Festival Success In 2025

  Welcome to The Money Trench! This week we celebrate our 50th episode and Mark is joined by Jim King, CEO of AEG Europe’s Festival Division. Jim is the driving force behind some of the UK’s biggest live music events, including American Express presents BST Hyde Park, All Points East, and newly launched Lido Festival. The pair chat backstage at BST Hyde Park to reflect on a career that spans Creamfields, Bestival, RockNess, and building AEG’s festival empire. Jim shares hard-earned insights on festival economics, grassroots venue survival, booking headliners, and keeping UK live music at the top of the global game. NEWSLETTER ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories. SOUNDON The Money Trench is sponsored by SoundOn. TIXEL The Money Trench is sponsored by Tixel. PPL  The Money Trench is sponsored by the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PPL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. KEEP UP TO DATE For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:  Instagram:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@the_money_trench⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Money Trench⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Money Trench⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ GET IN TOUCH If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get in touch here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Thanks to our partners SoundOn Tixel ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PPL ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Earth/Percent⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Tom A Smith⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Aimless Play⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fourth Pillar⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sennheiser⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Junkhead Studio⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Tape Notes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Executive Producer: Mike Walsh Producer: Tape Notes

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• TMT:49 Alison Howe on Running Glastonbury’s Epic TV Coverage & Curating Later's Line-Ups

  Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Alison Howe, Executive Producer of Music at BBC Studios, and the driving force behind the BBC’s epic Glastonbury TV coverage. With over 30 years at the BBC and a background spanning Radio 1, Later with Jools Holland, and iconic music specials, Alison shares her journey from secretarial college to being the BBC’s go-to for live music broadcasting. The pair chat leading up to the world-renowned Glastonbury festival to talk about behind the scenes logistics, broadcast politics, surprise sets, and the any weather reality of producing one of the most-watched music events in the UK. NEWSLETTER ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories. PPL  The Money Trench is sponsored by the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PPL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. KEEP UP TO DATE For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:  Instagram:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@the_money_trench⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Money Trench⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Money Trench⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ GET IN TOUCH If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get in touch here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Thanks to our partners ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PPL ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Earth/Percent⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Tom A Smith⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Aimless Play⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fourth Pillar⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sennheiser⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Junkhead Studio⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Tape Notes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Executive Producer: Mike Walsh Producer: Tape Notes

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• TMT:48 Geoff Ellis On Promoting Oasis & Dominating The Scottish Live Industry

  Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark sits down with Geoff Ellis, CEO of DF Concerts, the Scottish live music powerhouse behind TRNSMT Festival, King Tut’s Wah Wah Hut, and countless shows across Scotland. Celebrating 40 years in the industry, Geoff shares the lessons learned from a life spent promoting the biggest stars, including Oasis, Radiohead, and Pulp. The pair talk during one of the busiest live music summers ever to talk about festival economics, artist ticket pricing, grassroots venue survival, the Oasis reunion phenomenon, and why he once banned the rugby club from student discos. NEWSLETTER ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories. PPL  The Money Trench is sponsored by the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PPL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. KEEP UP TO DATE For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:  Instagram:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@the_money_trench⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Money Trench⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Money Trench⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ GET IN TOUCH If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get in touch here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Thanks to our partners ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PPL ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Earth/Percent⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Tom A Smith⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Aimless Play⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fourth Pillar⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sennheiser⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Junkhead Studio⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Tape Notes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Executive Producer: Mike Walsh Producer: Tape Notes

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• TMT:47 Johan Lagerlof On Being The Founding Investor in Abba Voyage And Buying The Avicii Catalogue

  Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark sits down with Johan Lagerlof, Managing Partner of Pop House Entertainment, the company behind the groundbreaking ABBA Voyage experience and catalogue investments in artists like KISS, Avicii and Swedish House Mafia. With a background spanning Spotify, Warner Music, and a career as a songwriter and entrepreneur, Johan unpacks how immersive tech, catalogue strategy, and legacy storytelling are shaping the next generation of music experiences. Recorded during SXSW London, the pair talk about the future of live performance, the art of turning music into emotional storytelling, and how investing in legacy catalogues can power new cultural moments for generations to come. NEWSLETTER ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories. PPL  The Money Trench is sponsored by the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PPL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. KEEP UP TO DATE For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:  Instagram:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@the_money_trench⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Money Trench⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Money Trench⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ GET IN TOUCH If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get in touch here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Thanks to our partners ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PPL ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Earth/Percent⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Tom A Smith⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Aimless Play⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fourth Pillar⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sennheiser⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Junkhead Studio⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Tape Notes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Executive Producer: Mike Walsh Producer: Tape Notes

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• TMT:46 Kim Frankiewicz On Fighting for Songwriters and Hanging Out with Michael Hutchence

  Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Kim Frankiewicz, EVP Worldwide A&R at Concord Music Publishing, and a true veteran of the global business. From INXS and the Aussie pub circuit, to signing Mark Ronson and Daft Punk, Kim has seen it all. Now she leads one of the most respected publishing teams in the world. Mark sits down with Kim at the studio of artist merch company whynow Music to talk about her journey from live promotions in Australia, to top-level publishing roles in New York and London. Kim shares her views on streaming remuneration, AI, songwriter support, and how to build a career with global longevity in the modern industry. NEWSLETTER ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories. PPL  The Money Trench is sponsored by the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PPL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. KEEP UP TO DATE For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:  Instagram:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@the_money_trench⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Money Trench⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Money Trench⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ GET IN TOUCH If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get in touch here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Thanks to our partners ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PPL ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Earth/Percent⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Tom A Smith⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Aimless Play⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fourth Pillar⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sennheiser⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Junkhead Studio⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Tape Notes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Executive Producer: Mike Walsh Producer: Tape Notes

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