The Money Trench - The Music Industry Podcast with Mark Sutherland

• TMT:48 Geoff Ellis On Promoting Oasis & Dominating The Scottish Live Industry

  Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark sits down with Geoff Ellis, CEO of DF Concerts, the Scottish live music powerhouse behind TRNSMT Festival, King Tut’s Wah Wah Hut, and countless shows across Scotland. Celebrating 40 years in the industry, Geoff shares the lessons learned from a life spent promoting the biggest stars, including Oasis, Radiohead, and Pulp. The pair talk during one of the busiest live music summers ever to talk about festival economics, artist ticket pricing, grassroots venue survival, the Oasis reunion phenomenon, and why he once banned the rugby club from student discos. NEWSLETTER ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories. PPL  The Money Trench is sponsored by the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PPL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. KEEP UP TO DATE For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:  Instagram:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@the_money_trench⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Money Trench⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Money Trench⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ GET IN TOUCH If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get in touch here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Thanks to our partners ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PPL ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Earth/Percent⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Tom A Smith⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Aimless Play⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fourth Pillar⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sennheiser⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Junkhead Studio⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Tape Notes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Executive Producer: Mike Walsh Producer: Tape Notes

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• TMT:47 Johan Lagerlof On Being The Founding Investor in Abba Voyage And Buying The Avicii Catalogue

  Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark sits down with Johan Lagerlof, Managing Partner of Pop House Entertainment, the company behind the groundbreaking ABBA Voyage experience and catalogue investments in artists like KISS, Avicii and Swedish House Mafia. With a background spanning Spotify, Warner Music, and a career as a songwriter and entrepreneur, Johan unpacks how immersive tech, catalogue strategy, and legacy storytelling are shaping the next generation of music experiences. Recorded during SXSW London, the pair talk about the future of live performance, the art of turning music into emotional storytelling, and how investing in legacy catalogues can power new cultural moments for generations to come. NEWSLETTER ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories. PPL  The Money Trench is sponsored by the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PPL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. KEEP UP TO DATE For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:  Instagram:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@the_money_trench⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Money Trench⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Money Trench⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ GET IN TOUCH If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get in touch here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Thanks to our partners ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PPL ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Earth/Percent⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Tom A Smith⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Aimless Play⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fourth Pillar⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sennheiser⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Junkhead Studio⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Tape Notes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Executive Producer: Mike Walsh Producer: Tape Notes

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• TMT:46 Kim Frankiewicz On Fighting for Songwriters and Hanging Out with Michael Hutchence

  Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Kim Frankiewicz, EVP Worldwide A&R at Concord Music Publishing, and a true veteran of the global business. From INXS and the Aussie pub circuit, to signing Mark Ronson and Daft Punk, Kim has seen it all. Now she leads one of the most respected publishing teams in the world. Mark sits down with Kim at the studio of artist merch company whynow Music to talk about her journey from live promotions in Australia, to top-level publishing roles in New York and London. Kim shares her views on streaming remuneration, AI, songwriter support, and how to build a career with global longevity in the modern industry. NEWSLETTER ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories. PPL  The Money Trench is sponsored by the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PPL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. KEEP UP TO DATE For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:  Instagram:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@the_money_trench⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Money Trench⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Money Trench⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ GET IN TOUCH If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get in touch here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Thanks to our partners ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PPL ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Earth/Percent⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Tom A Smith⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Aimless Play⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fourth Pillar⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sennheiser⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Junkhead Studio⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Tape Notes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Executive Producer: Mike Walsh Producer: Tape Notes

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• TMT:45 Jamie Oborne On Managing The 1975 & Keeping The Spirit of Independence Alive

  Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark sits down with Jamie Oborne, founder of Dirty Hit Records and All On Red Management, and the guiding force behind The 1975, Bleachers, The Japanese House, and more. Jamie shares his journey from artist to manager to label boss, building one of the most influential independent operations in the UK music industry. Mark joins Jamie at Dirty Hit HQ for a candid conversation about building artist-first businesses, dealing with viral fame and controversies, maintaining independence, and preparing for one of the biggest gigs of their career: The 1975 at Glastonbury. NEWSLETTER ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories. PPL  The Money Trench is sponsored by the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PPL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. KEEP UP TO DATE For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:  Instagram:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@the_money_trench⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Money Trench⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Money Trench⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ GET IN TOUCH If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get in touch here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Thanks to our partners ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PPL ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Earth/Percent⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Tom A Smith⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Aimless Play⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fourth Pillar⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sennheiser⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Junkhead Studio⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Tape Notes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Executive Producer: Mike Walsh Producer: Tape Notes

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• TMT:44 Jin Jin On Writing Smash Hits & How Songwriter Contracts Need To Change

  Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark sits down and chats with multi-platinum UK songwriter and creative entrepreneur, Jin Jin. With hits for Jess Glynne, Raye, Jax Jones, David Guetta, Becky Hill, Sabrina Carpenter, and many more, the pair discuss the songwriting economy, streaming reform, creative development, and what it takes to build a sustainable career behind the scenes. Recorded during Ivors week, Jin Jin reflects on her own Ivor nomination, why songwriters still struggle to get paid fairly, and why she founded her own label, management, and publishing company to help new talent rise. Plus, Jin Jin’s baby Jet makes his TMT debut! NEWSLETTER ⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠ for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories. PPL  The Money Trench is sponsored by the ⁠⁠⁠⁠PPL⁠⁠⁠⁠. KEEP UP TO DATE For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:  Instagram:⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@the_money_trench⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠The Money Trench⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠The Money Trench⁠⁠⁠⁠ GET IN TOUCH If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! -⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get in touch here!⁠⁠⁠⁠ Thanks to our partners ⁠⁠⁠⁠PPL ⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Earth/Percent⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Tom A Smith⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Aimless Play⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Fourth Pillar⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Sennheiser⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Junkhead Studio⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Tape Notes⁠⁠⁠⁠ Executive Producer: Mike Walsh Producer: Tape Notes

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