Cheap Talk

Jeff Kaplow and Marcus Holmes
Cheap Talk
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    Crazy Things in Foreign Policy

    25/1/2026 | 57 mins.
    Cheap Talk returns from winter break to discuss the Venezuela situation; what is driving US Venezuela policy; implications of the US capture of Maduro; signaling US seriousness in international affairs; similarities between Venezuela and Greenland; IR theory in Canadian PM Carney’s Davos speech; and Marcus was, yet again, surprised by events
    The opinions expressed on this podcast are solely our own and do not reflect the policies or positions of William & Mary.
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    Further Watching:
    Special Address by Mark Carney, Prime Minister of Canada, World Economic Forum Annual Meeting 2026

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    Inherent Greatness and Decency

    15/12/2025 | 1h 9 mins.
    The degradation of the State Department’s official correspondence due to font choice; the Trump Administration releases its National Security Strategy; the return of spheres of influence and the primacy of the Western Hemisphere for US policy; the supposed decline of European civilization; the general problem with national security strategy documents; the glaring absence of the liberal international order in US strategy; and Marcus is generally confused about fonts
    Cheap Talk is taking a holiday break, but will be back with new episodes in January. Subscribe in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your podcast player of choice to be notified when new episodes are posted.
    The opinions expressed on this podcast are solely our own and do not reflect the policies or positions of William & Mary.
    Check out our online store at https://cheaptalk.shop.
    Further Reading:
    Michael Crowley and Hamed Aleaziz. 2025. “At State Dept., a Typeface Falls Victim in the War Against Woke.” New York Times.
    The White House. 2025. National Security Strategy of the United States.
    Emily Harding. 2025. “The National Security Strategy: The Good, the Not So Great, and the Alarm Bells.” Center for Strategic and International Studies.

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    A Living, Breathing Document

    09/12/2025 | 1h 1 mins.
    The US plan for peace between Russia and Ukraine; what Putin wants out of a settlement; the wider effects of the war on Europe; Jared Kushner is back; what AI is actually good for (according to a new study); gifts for the IR enthusiast in your life; and Marcus would like a map for Christmas
    The opinions expressed on this podcast are solely our own and do not reflect the policies or positions of William & Mary.
    Please subscribe to Cheap Talk on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your podcast player of choice to be notified when new episodes are posted.
    Further Reading:
    Tejal Patwardhan et. al. 2025. “GDPval: Evaluating AI Model Performance on Real-World Economically Valuable Tasks.” OpenAI White Paper.
    IR books that make perfect holiday gifts:
    Signing Away the Bomb, by Jeffrey M. Kaplow
    Face to Face Diplomacy, by Marcus Holmes
    Inside the Situation Room, edited by Hillary Rodham Clinton and Karen Yarhi-Milo (featuring a chapter by Marcus Holmes)
    Featured items from the Cheap Talk shop:
    Cheap Talk Live commemorative t-shirt
    Ceding Human Control mug
    Cheap Talk holographic sticker set
    And many more great IR gifts at the Cheap Talk shop!
    Jeff’s other gift suggestions for the IR enthusiast:
    International News/Analysis: The Economist (discounted for teachers & faculty and for students), Foreign Affairs (discounted for students and teachers), War on the Rocks
    Scratch-off world map
    UN Peacekeeper toy helmet
    International Spy Museum Store
    CIA Mug with George H.W. Bush signature

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    Live from Williamsburg, Virginia!

    24/11/2025 | 1h
    Cheap Talk Live! The students of William & Mary’s “Introduction to International Politics” course join the podcast to discuss drug boats; the UN-approved peace plan for Gaza; an AI arms race; the intersection of IR theory and policymaking; ending the war in Ukraine; overconfidence and fear in IR; whether IR students have to go to grad school; the ideal podcast co-host; our IR origin stories; Thanksgiving dinner picks; and Marcus takes food safety very seriously
    Special thanks to William & Mary’s Jeff Herrick for audio support and to all the GOVT 204 students who participated in the show. Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!
    The opinions expressed on this podcast are solely our own and do not reflect the policies or positions of William & Mary.
    Please subscribe to Cheap Talk on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your podcast player of choice to be notified when new episodes are posted.
    Check out our online store at https://cheaptalk.shop.
    Recommended Thanksgiving Recipes:
    J. Kenji López-Alt. “Mayo-Roasted Thanksgiving Turkey with Gravy.” New York Times Cooking.
    J. Kenji López-Alt. “The Best Crispy Roast Potatoes Ever.” Serious Eats.

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    Wars on Things

    17/11/2025 | 57 mins.
    Strikes by the United States military on suspected drug boats in the Pacific; the legality of these strikes; why it might matter if the US is violating international law; building pressure on Venezuela; the US strategy (if there is one); the problems with wars on things; and Marcus has never had Tofurkey
    The opinions expressed on this podcast are solely our own and do not reflect the policies or positions of William & Mary.
    Please subscribe to Cheap Talk on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your podcast player of choice to be notified when new episodes are posted.
    Check out our online store at https://cheaptalk.shop.
    Further Reading:
    Lazaro Gamio, Carol Rosenberg, and Charlie Savage. 2025. “Tracking U.S. Military Killings in Boat Attacks.” New York Times.

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Cheap Talk is an every-week-or-so international relations podcast with Jeff Kaplow and Marcus Holmes, professors of government at William & Mary.
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