Berlin calling... it's September 1978 and young Mancunian punk musician, Joy Division/Factory Records associate and Germanophile Mark Reeder has hitchhiked to Berlin, the city where he would make a name for himself as a producer, DJ, musician, impresario and manager, responsible for firing up the West Berlin underground music scene during the 1980s. (For a vivid immersion into this era, check out 'B-Movie: Lust & Sound in West-Berlin 1979-1989', the 2015 documentary chronicling Mark and the key and not-so-key players in the West Berlin post-punk scene).
In this episode, we explore more of "Heroes", the most Berlin of Berlin albums, the city of darkness and division as refracted through the unique Bowie prism, aided and abetted by an assorted cast of maverick musicians, egg-head theorists, rock'n'roll, techno, experimentation and Iggy Pop. Mark and I take in the mood of the times, from his own personal memories of discovering Berlin with a Walkman and Side 2 of "Heroes" to the lingering influences of Krautrock, Isherwood, Albert King and Bolan.
Thanks to Mark Reeder for his time and generosity for this episode, as well as to Thilo Schmidt for organising our previous visit to Hansa Studios and as ever, a massive thanks to Leah Kardos for composing and gifting the opening music to this episode.
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S5 Ep6: Mark Reeder on "Heroes" Part 1
Recorded live in Hansa Studios in Berlin, this is the first of a three-part episode in which Mark Reeder and I delve into the rough, ripped fabric of 1978’s Berlin meisterwerk, “Heroes”
Manchester-born Berliner Mark Reeder has been obsessed with music ever since hearing Telstar at the age of 4. This passion led him to working in Manchester’s Virgin Records in the early to mid 1970s – then the coolest record shop in the city - where he immersed himself in Krautrock and embraced punk, in between trying to wean Tony Wilson off his beloved Bruce Springsteen albums, recommending records to future Joy Division/New Order manager Rob Gretton, befriending a pre-Joy Division Ian Curtis and playing bass in Mick Hucknall’s punk band The Frantic Elevators. But as punk began to eat itself and Virgin prepared to relaunch as a Megastore, Mark began hitch hiking to Germany, exploring the record shops of Dusseldorf, Munich and Hamburg before finally pitching up in a dark, grey, bomb-scarred Berlin in 1978, arriving around two weeks after another wandering Englishman had left, having recently completed his “Heroes” album.
In this episode, we wander gently towards a chat about “Heroes” with Mark taking us back to 1970s Manchester and his place at the heart of the city’s punk scene and how he found his way to Germany, settling in Berlin in 1978 where he became the German representative for Joy Division and Factory Records from 1978-1983 and a member of synthpop bands Die Unbekannten and Shark Vegas.
Die Unbekannten performed the first illegal and highly secretive gigs in the Communist East (Czechoslovakia & Hungary) for their underground scenes, and they released Dangerous Moonlight, the first record ever to feature a Roland 606 Drum Machine.
During the early 80s Mark Reeder managed the all-girl avant-garde group Malaria! and organised the first secret underground punk concerts in Budapest and Prague for Die Unbekannten and Die Toten Hosen for which he was classified as a subversiv-dekadent by the Stasi.
In December 1990, he founded the first independent electronic music label MFS
(Masterminded For Success) in post-Wall East-Berlin. In 2015 he produced the score for the acclaimed documentary film “B-Movie (Lust & Sound in West-Berlin)" about Reeder’s life in 80’s West Berlin avant-garde music scene.
Mark is also an established DJ and remixer, for artists such as New Order,
Depeche Mode, The Pet Shop Boys, Blank & Jones, John Foxx, Anne Clark, Yello or Die Toten Hosen which can be found on his remix albums ReOrdered (SO80s), Collaborator (Factory Benelux) Five Point One (Kennen/MFS), Mauerstadt, or Subversiv-Dekadent (MFS).
Stream "B-Movie" here
Thanks to Thilo Schmidt of Berlin Music Tours for organising our visit to Hansa Studios
With thanks to Leah Kardos for intro and outro music
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S5 Ep5: Gail Ann Dorsey on Young Americans (Part Two)
We continue our chat with Gail Ann Dorsey as she explains the seismic impact Young Americans made on her - and hear a snippet of her breathtaking version of 'Can You Hear Me?' - and reflect on friends and collaborators from Bowie universe, past and present – from Carlos Alomar, Mike Garson and David Sanborn to her current project with Donny McCaslin, the mighty orchestral Blackstar Symphony. And of course, along the way, we come back time and again to that one omniscient figure, who brought them all together.
Gail and the Blackstar Symphony play Nashville on June 18, 2025 and San Francisco on June 26th - see more via Donny McCaslin's page here
Keep up with Gail's music and appearances via her Instagram and Spotify - and keep an ear out for new music soon!
Many thanks to Leah Kardos for the original music for this episode
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S5 Ep4: Gail Ann Dorsey on Young Americans (Part One)
Buckle up listeners, we’ve got a very special guest in today and it’s none other than Gail Ann Dorsey, legendary session musician/singer/songwriter and bassist who accompanied David Bowie on tour and in the studio between 1995 and 2013. In that time, she became a core of the Bowie band, loved by David, bandmates and fans alike for her innate musicality, soaring vocals and cool, calm and stylish presence on stage.
Gail’s story stretches out way before Bowie, and has thrived afterwards too. In this episode, the first of two, we talk about Gail’s solo career, growing up in a big family in 1970s West Philadelphia, digging the city’s sizzling soul and R&B scene, as well as immersing herself in the best of the era’s music, from solo singer songwriters to the thunderous sounds of Cream, Queen and Slade – and that British guy, who had come to Philadelphia in 1975 to record an album that blew her mind…
Follow Gail’s current activities on her Facebook and Instagram and check out her solo discography and concert dates on Spotify here
Many thanks to Leah Kardos for the original music used in this podcast!
Image courtesy Mark Adams
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S5 Ep3: Nicholas Pegg on Tonight (Part Three)
Nicholas Pegg and I are back for the final instalment of our three part extravaganza about David Bowie's 1984 album Tonight and its a good one - you'll have never heard anyone explore the joys of 'Tumble and Twirl', 'I Keep Forgetting' and 'Dancing With the Big Boys' in quite such vivid detail before. In making this series of episodes, I've changed my mind about 'Tonight' to some extent. Going in, I'd dismissed it as a load of old horse manure, but having heard what Nick has to say has made me if not love it, at least appreciate it a bit more, especially, 'Tumble and Twirl', 'Loving the Alien' and even 'Don't Look Down'. Still can't be doing with 'God Only Knows' though. Some things will never change.
Thanks to Nicholas Pegg for his time and generosity in sharing his insights and research into 'Tonight', a huge thanks to Leah Kardos for crafting the beautiful music bookending this and previous 'Tonight' episodes and of course thanks to YOU, dear listener, for taking the time to reassess this most esoteric and divisive of albums.
Each David Bowie album is unique. Some are universally lionised, some regarded as merely legendary, some, pretentious codswallop. But we all have our favourites. In this series of podcasts, I meet up with writers, musicians, critics and assorted woodland folk, to explore their choice of album in rambling roundelays of free-form facting, anorak-grade geekery, pompous pontification, impassioned argument and highly-contentious chat. I like to think these podcasts exercise the minds of some of the world’s (well, at least the bit I am in) most eminent Bowiebores, my lugubrious interrogations spurring them to wax lyrical and entertainingly - just for you. I hope you enjoy listening to them.
Presented and produced by Arsalan Mohammad
Music by Leah Kardos
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