Everybody Knows But Me

This week, the camera is turning back toward the OG main character for two stories Holly considered telling in Season One - but wasn’t ready to share.

We’re talking catfishing. Producer Pete joins Holly as she revisits how an online relationship became something far more complicated and harmful, why the circumstances of her life at the time made her especially vulnerable, and the things she understands very differently looking back as an adult.

Content warning: This episode includes conversations about grooming, sexual assault, and other difficult subject matter. Please take care of yourself while listening.

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Do you have a story of family secrets or darkly funny drama that you want to share? We want to hear it! Email us ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠everybodyknowspod@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Support the show at our new Patreon starting at $5/month: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/cw/everybodyknowsbutme⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Writer - Holly Brown

Executive Producers - Jeremiah Tittle & Holly Brown

Lead Producer, Editor, Music Supervisor & Sound designer - Pete Musto

Associate Producer - Ilana Nevins

Video Editor & Mix Engineer - Alex Musto

Original Score Composer - Kyle Murdock

Original Artwork - Aaron Hill

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Comedian Lisa Wallen and Holly have a lot in common: alcoholic dads, complicated childhoods, and an ability to make a joke at the worst possible time. But Lisa’s life changed forever when her fiancé, John, disappeared. She joins Holly to talk about what happened, becoming the target of internet strangers while she was grieving, and the surprising way tragedy reshaped her relationship with her dad.

*** SHOW SPONSOR: If you’re struggling with OCD or unrelenting intrusive thoughts, NOCD can help. Book a free 15 minute call to get started at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠nocd.com/EverybodyKnows⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ***

Follow Lisa on Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/wisalallen/

And go watch her stand-up special Lisa Wallen Leaves the House:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9xY-3AN35U

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Do you have a story of family secrets or darkly funny drama that you want to share? We want to hear it! Email us ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠everybodyknowspod@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Support the show at our new Patreon starting at $5/month: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/cw/everybodyknowsbutme⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Writer - Holly Brown

Executive Producers - Jeremiah Tittle & Holly Brown

Lead Producer, Editor, Music Supervisor & Sound designer - Pete Musto

Associate Producer - Ilana Nevins

Video Editor & Mix Engineer - Alex Musto

Original Score Composer - Kyle Murdock

Original Artwork - Aaron Hill

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This mission, if you choose to accept it, is unlike any EKBM mission we’ve had before…and it’s top secret.

After his grandfather died, comedian Hunter Hill and his sister started digging into the life of the quiet man they knew from childhood. What they uncovered led them down a rabbit hole of top-secret government missions and an era-defining history they were the first in their family to uncover.

Hunter joins Holly to talk about discovering his grandpas double life, breaking the news to his own family, and why he decided to make a podcast about all of it. Cough WE GET IT *cough*

*** SHOW SPONSOR: If you’re struggling with OCD or unrelenting intrusive thoughts, NOCD can help. Book a free 15 minute call to get started at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠nocd.com/EverybodyKnows⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ***

Follow Hunter on Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/hunterhillcomedy/

And go listen to his new podcast Deep Secrets: Grandpa & The CIA

https://deepsecretspod.com/#listen

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Do you have a story of family secrets or darkly funny drama that you want to share? We want to hear it! Email us ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠everybodyknowspod@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Support the show at our new Patreon starting at $5/month: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/cw/everybodyknowsbutme⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

And make sure you leave a rating and a review, or drop a comment below!

Writer - Holly Brown

Executive Producers - Jeremiah Tittle & Holly Brown

Lead Producer, Editor, Music Supervisor & Sound designer - Pete Musto

Associate Producer - Ilana Nevins

Video Editor & Mix Engineer - Alex Musto

Original Score Composer - Kyle Murdock

Original Artwork - Aaron Hill

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You asked, we answered - this week is all listener stories, and you really came through with the wildest sibling revelations, secret family drama and EKBM level dysfunction that made us all collectively Home Improvement grunt. Holly and partner-in-crime Producer Pete read them aloud with licensed therapist, author, and creator of The Siblinghood Theory, Minaa B. Together, the three of us dig into the stories you’ve been sending us all year. Minaa is here to help us understand what might actually be happening underneath them all, and Pete and Holly are your proxies - just two little rascals and silly billies who cope through jokes.

*** SHOW SPONSOR: If you’re struggling with OCD or unrelenting intrusive thoughts, NOCD can help. Book a free 15 minute call to get started at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠nocd.com/EverybodyKnows⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ***

Follow Minaa on Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/minaa_b/

And go pre-order her new book Siblinghood: Resolve Conflict, Heal Resentment, and Find Peace in Your Sibling Relationships

https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/minaa-b/siblinghood/9781538778616/

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Do you have a story of family secrets or darkly funny drama that you want to share? We want to hear it! Email us ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠everybodyknowspod@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Support the show at our new Patreon starting at $5/month: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/cw/everybodyknowsbutme⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

And make sure you leave a rating and a review, or drop a comment below!

Writer - Holly Brown

Executive Producers - Jeremiah Tittle & Holly Brown

Lead Producer, Editor, Music Supervisor & Sound designer - Pete Musto

Associate Producer - Ilana Nevins

Video Editor & Mix Engineer - Alex Musto

Original Score Composer - Kyle Murdock

Original Artwork - Aaron Hill

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Award-winning journalist, podcast host, and digital activist Bridget Todd has spent years examining how technology shapes our lives. Then in 2025, within an incredibly short period of time, Bridget’s mom died suddenly and she became a caregiver for her seriously ill dad. She was grieving, overwhelmed, and suddenly responsible for navigating an endless list of medical, insurance, and caregiving decisions. And that’s when an AI critic turned to AI. Bridget’s experience inspired her new audiobook, Love at First Prompt: AI and the Future of Intimacy , which investigates something that sounds like science fiction but is very much already here: people turning to AI for romance, friendship, therapy, companionship and emotional support. And she joins Holly to talk about losing the people you love, wondering who would actually show up for you in a crisis, and finding yourself reaching for comfort somewhere you NEVER thought you would.

*** SHOW SPONSOR: If you’re struggling with OCD or unrelenting intrusive thoughts, NOCD can help. Book a free 15 minute call to get started at ⁠⁠⁠⁠nocd.com/EverybodyKnows⁠⁠⁠⁠ ***

Follow Bridget on Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/bridgetmarieindc/

And download a copy of her new audiobook Love at First Prompt: AI and the Future of Intimacy

https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Love-at-First-Prompt/Bridget-Todd/9781668179826

Help us make the podcast even better by filling out our super quick Listener Survey:

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Do you have a story of family secrets or darkly funny drama that you want to share? We want to hear it! Email us ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠everybodyknowspod@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Support the show at our new Patreon starting at $5/month: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/cw/everybodyknowsbutme⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

And make sure you leave a rating and a review, or drop a comment below!

Writer - Holly Brown

Executive Producers - Jeremiah Tittle & Holly Brown

Lead Producer, Editor, Music Supervisor & Sound designer - Pete Musto

Associate Producer - Ilana Nevins

Video Editor & Mix Engineer - Alex Musto

Original Score Composer - Kyle Murdock

Original Artwork - Aaron Hill

Follow ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@hollybrowncomedy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow the show ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@EverybodyKnowsButMe⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on Instagram
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