In the very first episode of What It Means to Be Human, hosts Dan Zetterström and Roslyn Mugford set the stage for a podcast that explores UFOs, high strangeness, and the mysteries of consciousness with curiosity and compassion. From personal stories of interviewing Stanton Friedman and filming Phenomenology in Colombia, to reflections on congressional hearings, whistleblower protection, Canada’s own Sky Canada project, and the state of UGOlogy around the world, Dan and Roz dig into why this moment in history matters.
Along the way they introduce ‘UFO or UFNO’, recap the modern day UFO timeline since 2017, and preview upcoming guests including writer Richard Hatem (The Mothman Prophecies) and whale biologist Dr. Michelle Fournet. Part news roundup, part cosmic campfire, The Signal offers both skeptical inquiry and open wonder about what connects us all.
Remember to be curious, the universe is bigger than we know.
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Chapters
(00:00:00) - Introduction to the Show & Hosts(00:02:51) - Exploring UFOs & Consciousness(00:05:49) - Indigenous Perspectives & Experiences(00:08:45) - Belief Spectrum in UFO Phenomena(00:11:37) - Show Structure & Episode Types(00:14:41) - UAP Congressional Hearings Overview(00:17:47) - Whistleblower Protection & Legislation(00:20:55) - International Perspectives on UAPs(00:23:25) - Skinwalker Ranch Updates & Findings(00:26:38) - Future of UAP Investigations and Community Engagement