Between Us Moms Podcast

WE ARE SO BACK. Katie and Hallie are back on Between Us Moms after a little hiatus, and this week we're diving into the pop culture moments, motherhood debates, and very real mom feelings that have everyone talking. Nara Smith. Ben Affleck's recent comments and Alexander Skarsgard's weird shoes. There's a lot to unpack here.
First, we're catching up on Dancing with the Stars! Who are we voting for? We're SO inspired by Ezra Frech, always rooting for Sharna Burgess, and think Taylor Hanson and Britt Stewart deserved more time on the show. Alexander Skarsgård's questionable plastic shoes have Hallie personally offended by his toes but Katie is concerned about something else. 😂
Then, Ben Affleck's recent comments about co-parenting with Jennifer Garner spark a BIG conversation: Are moms actually better at parenting, or have we just been conditioned to believe we have to be? Do dads get to be the “fun parent”? And what would actually fall apart if you were away from home for 48 hours?
We're also talking Nara Smith, who has defended her decision to have four kids before the age of 24 and says motherhood hasn't held back her career. The moms weighs in on the way her comments about “old moms” were framed, and we get into why there is no one-size-fits-all timeline for motherhood. Has becoming a mom changed your career plans? Do you think Nara's perspective is empowering, or does having resources make all the difference?
Plus, life updates from our hosts, the magic of having kids in school for half the day, Hallie's newfound desire to attend ALL the weddings, and Katie reflecting on five years of marriage, what she's proud of, and a few things that still make her say “WTF.”
And television right now. Is anyone else watching The Diplomat or War? We need to discuss!!
We're so happy to be back, and we REALLY want to hear from you!
Join the conversation: Are moms held to a different standard than dads? Did motherhood change your career dreams? Tell us your thoughts, and come hang out with us on Between Us Moms.
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Actress, author, entrepreneur, podcast host, and mom of four Sarah Wright Olsen joins Between Us Moms for an honest conversation about motherhood, mom guilt, marriage after kids, career shifts, raising independent children, and finding yourself again in the chaos of motherhood.
You may know Sarah from Parks and Recreation, Mad Men, The House Bunny, American Made, and Spinning Out, or from The Mother Daze podcast, which she co-hosts with actress Teresa Palmer. Now, Sarah is adding children’s book author to the list with When I Am Not With You, a heartfelt new book inspired by her own family’s ritual for staying connected through school drop-offs, work trips, and time apart.
Sarah gets candid about why becoming a mom completely changed the way she approaches her acting career, including the moment she realized she no longer wanted a career that constantly took her away from her children. She also opens up about separating her self-worth from her career and income, navigating mom guilt, losing herself during the transition from one to two children, and eventually finding her way back to herself as a woman outside of motherhood.
We also talk about marriage and parenting with her husband, actor Eric Christian Olsen, how they find time to connect after nearly 20 years together, and why their simplest “dates” sometimes happen over coffee after school drop-off.
Plus, Sarah shares the routines that help their household of four kids actually function, including their “Rock and Roll List,” teaching kids responsibility through household chores, setting boundaries, the highly coveted “Ice Cream Friday,” and the parenting lessons she’s learned from Teresa Palmer and the other moms in her life.
And for any parent currently dealing with tearful preschool or kindergarten drop-offs, Sarah shares the beautiful story behind When I Am Not With You and the simple phrase her family uses to remind their children that even when they’re apart, they’re always connected.
In this episode:
• Mom guilt and separation anxiety at school drop-off
• How motherhood changes your career priorities
• Sarah’s decision to step away from the Hollywood hustle
• Losing and rediscovering your identity after becoming a mom
• Marriage and making time for your partner after kids
• Raising four children and managing a busy household
• Teaching kids chores, responsibility, and independence
• Sarah and Eric Christian Olsen’s parenting philosophy
• The “Rock and Roll List” and “Ice Cream Friday”
• What Sarah has learned about motherhood from Teresa Palmer
• Finding humor when parenting feels completely chaotic
• The inspiration behind When I Am Not With You
• Helping children feel connected during separation, school, and travel
If you’ve ever wondered how to balance motherhood and career, struggled with mom guilt, cried after preschool drop-off, or wondered who you are outside of being “Mom,” this conversation will make you feel a little less alone.
When I Am Not With You by Sarah Wright Olsen is available now.
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Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce's are married and we're breaking down every viral detail from the wedding — the celebrity guest list and emotional vows to Karlie Kloss, Blake Lively, Adam Sandler officiating, Travis crying, video documentary rumors, and all the moments fans can't stop talking about. Did they actually get a new dog? We have so many fun thoughts and insider stories to share!
We discuss:
✨ Why they likely picked Adam Sandler to officiate
✨ The guest list—including Brad Pitt, Tom Hanks, Gigi Hadid, Karlie Kloss and why Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds weren't there despite Taylor being their children's godmother
✨ Selena Gomez's seat at the reception—who did she sit with?
✨ The elaborate seating chart
✨ The framed photos lining the hallway as guests entered
✨ The strict NDAs every guest reportedly signed
✨ The AMC executive who allegedly posted—and then quickly deleted—a full account of the wedding
✨ Were cameras secretly filming a Taylor Swift documentary?
✨ Who walked Taylor and Travis down the aisle?
✨ Did the newlyweds quietly adopt a new dog?
Then we switch gears to the relationship trend everyone is talking about...
Have you heard of a "travel divorce"? Couples are intentionally vacationing separately, and some experts say it can actually strengthen a marriage. Others think it may be a warning sign that a real divorce isn't far behind. Katie and Hallie share whether they'd ever take separate vacations from their husbands—and what this trend might really mean.
Plus, we react to the mom who went viral for sharing her five strict summer rules for her tweens. Are her boundaries brilliant... or way too much? We break down every rule and reveal which ones we'd actually use with our own kids.
If you love celebrity news, Taylor Swift, Travis Kelce, motherhood, parenting debates, pop culture, and honest conversations between moms, this episode is for you.
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This week on Between Us Moms, we're talking about everything from mom hacks and home refreshes to the biggest parenting debates dominating the internet.
Hallie shares why her overflowing social calendar is taking over her brain, a simple swap that's helping her reduce waste and lower her carbon footprint, and the surprisingly effective way she gets motivated to check off those lingering house projects.
Katie is in full home makeover mode, sharing her latest finds from Prime Day, Home Depot, HomeGoods, Costco, and why she's suddenly obsessed with ferns. Plus, she reveals the feedback her husband, Jason, has for the podcast.
Then it's time for Headlines That Made Us Text Each Other.
First, we unpack the viral conversation surrounding Emily Ratajkowski's deeply personal essay for The Cut, where she opens up about divorce, dating, single motherhood, and the quote everyone can't stop discussing: "Having a child with the wrong man is one of the fastest ways to ruin your life." We discuss whether she's right, why her comments have sparked so much debate, and whether choosing the wrong parenting partner really can change the course of your life.
Next, we're diving into the internet's latest parenting controversy after North West attended Paris Fashion Week without Kim Kardashian by her side. With North only recently turning 13, and considering Kim's traumatic 2016 Paris robbery, was this a sign of healthy independence or a parenting decision that went too far? We share our honest takes.
Finally, in The Mom Algorithm, we're breaking down the viral 51% Rule—the mindset shift that's inspiring people to stop letting fear of judgment make their decisions. If you've ever wanted to start something new but worried about what other people would think, this conversation is for you.
Whether you're looking for parenting discussions, pop culture news, motherhood conversations or just a fun chat between two moms navigating it all, this episode has something for you.
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This week on Between Us Moms, Katie and Hallie are giving themselves permission to exhale. The moms dive into why a "lazy weekend" is sometimes so necessary. No birthday parties or social obligations. Just family.
Hallie shares why every mom deserves a girls' night out—from getting dressed up and feeling like yourself again to swapping parenting hacks with friends who truly get it. She also shares the NSFW tip she learned about.
The conversation takes a turn into celebrity headlines as the ladies discuss Jelly Roll and Bunnie XO's plans to grow their family despite divorcing. Is having a baby after relationship struggles a good idea? Katie and Hallie share their honest opinions and discuss the realities many couples face when navigating fertility, marriage, and major life decisions.
They also weigh in on the viral dad who sparked debate after taking his daughters into a women's restroom. What would they expect their own husbands to do in that situation?
Plus:
• The movies and shows we're watching, including Maternal Instinct and Not Suitable for Work
• The importance of getting dressed up
• Viral parenting debates
• Why berries suddenly cost a small fortune
• The shocking cost of extracurricular activities like gymnastics, dance, baseball and swim lessons
• The financial realities of raising children today
If you've ever felt exhausted, overwhelmed, stretched too thin, or wondered how anyone can afford parenting these days, this mom podcast is for you.
Hit play—you're not alone.
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