Fixing The Industrialization Of Flour With Kevin Morse
With the increasing number of huge industrial mills across the country, one of the most essential parts of our food system is also being industrialized: flour. Kevin Morse, CEO and co-founder of Cairnspring Mills, talks about his mission to bring organic flour into the mainstream market and the important role of community-rooted mills in achieving that goal. He joins Corinna Bellizzi to share how regenerative farming practices, healthy farmer relations, and sustainable food manufacturing are keys to producing nutrient-rich flour and bringing value back to local grain communities. Kevin also sheds light on how smallholder farmers are facing their toughest times right now due to the commodity system, trade wars, and the rapid corporate takeover.
About Our Guest: As CEO and co-founder of Cairnspring Mills, Kevin Morse taps into his deep experience as a farmer, economic development leader, conservationist and community builder and applies his can-do spirit to build the mill from the ground up. Kevin recognized that building a new regional grain milling business would bring value back to the community and farmers and was a critical part of revitalizing the local food system. An incorrigible optimist deeply rooted in the beautiful Skagit Valley, Kevin is an outdoorsman, avid fisherman and an Italian who loves to cook and bake.
Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-morse-6948a046/
Guest Website: https://cairnspring.com/
Guest Social: https://www.instagram.com/cairnspringmills/
Show Topics with Timestamps:
02:59 - Rotating Cereal Grains For A Hundred Years
07:03 - How Industrial Mills Started To Kill Local Mills
10:08 - How Cairnspring Mills Are Doing Things Differently
13:14 - Shelf Life Difference Between Nutrient-Dense And All-Purpose Flour
16:11 - The Dangers Of Glyphosate In Flour Production
19:50 - Why Animals Are Naturally Attracted To Regenerative Land
21:17 - Importance Of Maintaining Close Relationships With Farmers
24:25 - How Cairnspring Mills Scales While Keeping Their Core Values Intact
29:44 - Why Smallholder Farmers Are Facing Their Toughest Times
38:04 - Promising Brands To Look Out For
40:12 - Why Flour Will Become The Next Big Thing In Mainstream
42:43 - Benefits Of Having A Huge Assortment of Flour
47:49 - Can Regional Grains Restore Soil Health And Reduce Carbon
51:34 - Using Synthetic Fertilizers On No-Till Soils
55:05 - How Food Shapes Kevin’s Leadership Approach
58:56 - Possibility Of The Reemergence Of Community-Rooted Regional Mills
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Beauty As Activism: Laney Crowell on Saie’s Climate Initiative and Regenerative Beauty
In this episode, Corinna Bellizzi welcomes Laney Crowell, Founder and CEO of Saie, a clean beauty brand redefining what it means to care for people and planet. From the Saie Climate Initiative to The Saie Way docuseries, Laney is proving that beauty can be a force for regeneration.
They explore how Saie is tackling plastic waste, transparency in the beauty industry, and why beauty can—and should—be activism. Laney also shares personal reflections on raising daughters in a time of climate anxiety, finding joy in small actions, and how her leadership is helping to shift an entire industry toward accountability and impact.
Complete Blog & Transcripts: https://caremorebebetter.com/beauty-as-activism-laney-crowell-on-saies-climate-initiative-and-regenerative-beauty/
Topics Covered:
02:19 - Redefining The Beauty Industry Through Saie
09:17 - Deeper Dive Into Saie’s Mission Through A Docuseries
12:45 - How To Encourage Customers To Use Refill Systems
19:30 - The Biggest Misconception About Sustainability In The Beauty Industry
21:08 - Balancing Innovation And High Performance With Long-Term Sustainability
24:00 - Why Saie Uses Expensive Yet Safer Ingredients
27:33 - Saie’s Newly Launched Baked Collection
29:17 - Why Laney’s Daughters Are A Big Part Of Her Why
33:29 - How Laney Keeps Herself Motivated And Inspired
37:17 - Dreaming For A Better Beauty Industry And A Better Ocean
Resources Mentioned:
SaieHello.com
Laney Crowell on LinkedIn
Saie on Instagram
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CMBB Episode: Blue Mind: For The Love Of Water With Dr. Wallace J. Nichols
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Free Speech and Future Care: Speaking Truth in a Time of Fear
In this powerful solo episode, Corinna Bellizzi challenges listeners to rethink what it means to protect free speech in a polarized world. Drawing from her own experience as a sustainability scholar at Prescott College and from her earlier conversation with author Tony Brasunas, she connects freedom of inquiry to the future of environmental and social regeneration.
From the aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s assassination to the silencing of academic voices, Corinna reveals how fear and division erode the very foundations of democracy — and how mindful speech, empathy, and courage can help restore them. This isn’t just about politics. It’s about the future of care — for people, for the planet, and for truth itself.
Complete Blog with transcripts Free Speech and Future Care: Speaking Truth in a Time of Fear
You’ll hear:
Why free speech is the soil that nurtures innovation, truth, and sustainability
How to navigate difficult conversations at work without compromising integrity
The difference between self-censorship and self-control
Why Prescott College and similar institutions deserve our defense as hubs of diversity, equity, inclusion, and free inquiry
An excerpt from Corinna’s 2022 interview with Tony Brasunas, author of Red, White & Blind, on the “new enlightenment” and the dangers of media polarization
Why compassion and curiosity are the antidotes to division
Key Quote: “Free speech is a living system — and like all regenerative systems, it needs care, balance, and sunlight.” — Corinna Bellizzi
Episode Resources:
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Breaking Bread For A Better Planet: The PACHA Story With Maddie Hamann
The worsening climate change continues to deliver an adverse impact on our food system, which leads to supply shortages and the rise of less nutritious sources. Maddie Hamann strives to solve this alarming problem through the PACHA bread. She joins Corinna Bellizzi to share how their organic gluten-free sourdough buckwheat bread is making huge waves in revitalizing the food industry. Maddie explains how PACHA bread helps heal both people and the planet, prioritizing taste and nutrition above anything else. She also shares how they team up with regenerative farmers across the country to help accelerate the growth of highly sustainable communities.
COMPLETE BLOG & TRANSCRIPT https://caremorebebetter.com/breaking-bread-for-a-better-planet-the-pacha-story-with-maddie-hamann
About Guest:
Madeleine Hamann is a PhD oceanographer turned regenerative entrepreneur and co-founder of PACHA, a company reimagining bread through sprouted, sourdough buckwheat loaves and tortillas. After years studying climate change, Maddie realized that knowledge alone wouldn’t solve the crisis — action would. She left academia to build a business that nourishes both people and planet, leveraging the healthy-eating market to accelerate farmers’ transitions to regenerative agriculture. Drawing on her diverse background in civil engineering, ocean science, project management, and creative production, Maddie scaled PACHA from a homegrown idea to six-figure monthly revenue in under a year. A self-described “renaissance woman,” she brings systems thinking, adaptability, and a deep sense of purpose to every project she touches. Maddie’s work embodies the belief that true sustainability starts at the intersection of food, community, and ecological regeneration.
Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/madeleine-hamann-06b95347/
Guest Website: https://livepacha.com
Show Notes:
02:11 - Maddie’s Journey From Ocean Science To Regenerative Entrepreneurship
09:43 - Unpacking The Many Benefits Of Buckwheat
14:06 - Teaming Up With Regenerative Farmers
18:03 - PACHA’s Search For Organic Acreage
22:53 - PACHA’s Partnership With Sindyanna of Galilee
28:13 - PACHA’s Role In The Broader Regenerative Food Movement
32:10 - Trying PACHA’s Organic And Gluten-Free Sourdough Tortillas
36:39 - How To Deal With Pretty High Price Tags
44:54 - What Does Regeneration Mean For Maddie
49:57 - Building A Strong Legacy For PACHA
57:26 - Episode Wrap-Up And Closing Words
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Harness Green Energy & Produce Regenerative Food With Jared Blumenfeld
If the world is to thrive for many years to come, it must take action against climate change as soon as possible before it is too late. Corinna Bellizzi sits down with Jared Blumenfeld, President of Waverley Street Foundation, who pioneered a spend-down strategy in climate philanthropy to make green energy and regenerative food more accessible to the public. He talks about the role of solar energy to empower local communities, allowing them to adopt regenerative farming, improve food distribution and production, and initiate affordable climate solutions. Jared also explains how individual efforts can give birth to massive collaborative movements and emphasizes the importance of reconnecting with nature to build a more equitable future.
COMPLETE BLOG & TRANSCRIPT https://caremorebebetter.com/harness-green-energy-produce-regenerative-food-with-jared-blumenfeld/
About Guest: Jared is the president of Waverley Street Foundation, where he is tasked with spending the organization’s $3 billion endowment by the year 2035. Waverley is particularly focused on regenerative agriculture and renewable energy and invests in solutions emerging from communities experiencing the worst effects of climate change. Prior to joining WSF, he was California Secretary for Environmental Protection under Governor Gavin Newsom. In this role, he led the charge to implement California’s environmental agenda, including expanding access to safe and affordable drinking water, banning toxic pesticides, and advancing environmental protections for clean air and water. Before that, he served under President Obama as Regional Administrator of the U.S. EPA for the Pacific Southwest.
Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaredblumenfeld/
Guest Website: https://www.waverleystreet.org/
Guest Social: https://www.instagram.com/waverleystreet/
Show Notes:
02:32 - How Jared Found Himself Into The Climate Philanthropy Space
05:08 - How Individual Action Can Lead To Collective Results
09:33 - How Regenerative Agriculture Prioritizes Soil Health
16:11 - Empowering Local Economies For Better Food Distribution
20:25 - Why We Must Not Tolerate Terrible School Lunches
28:40 - How Waverley Street Foundation Works Within Two Pillars Of Energy
33:35 - Why People Are Looking For Proof Of Concept
36:26 - Addressing The Crumbling Electrical Delivery System
47:28 - Ensuring Every Investment Reflects Community-Driven Priorities
52:21 - Balancing Local Context With Global Scalability
56:20 - What We Can Learn From Farmers And Indigenous Communities
01:01:48 - Making Climate Change A Less Complicated Topic For Everyone
01:04:28 - Finding Purpose In Connecting With Other People
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About Care More Be Better: A Podcast For Sustainable Social Impact and Regeneration
Care More Be Better, invites you to care more so we can create a better world together. We amplify the voices of environmentalists, activists, health and nutrition gurus, scientists, and leading experts who seek to make the world a better place. Over the course of more than 250 interview episodes, you'll hear from experts like Jean-Michel Cousteau, Paul Hawken, Nina Simons, Dr. Wallace J. Nichols, Captain Liz Clark, Dr. William Li, Miyoko Schinner, John Roulac, Chef Babette Davis, Kelly Reyerson (@glyphosategirl), Donna Grantis and many more. These global change agents and activists create positive impacts and encourage us to think globally while also acting locally. Listen for free on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, Audible, on our website, and on most major podcast platforms.
Inspired by Paul Hawken’s aspirational book Regeneration - Ending The Climate Crisis In One Generation, and the late Dr. Wallace J. Nichols' Blue Mind Movement, this show aims to create a realistic roadmap to build a better future. As Paul Hawken simply states: “Global warming is not a science problem. It’s a human problem.” On this journey, you'll become the person you aspire to be by remaining curious, thinking deeply, and listening intently while looking inward. You'll discover your internal wisdom and learn to listen to your inner voice to receive the gifts nature provides fully. Become part of the regeneration nation by expanding your knowledge of agriculture, social systems, and help us build a more circular and just economy.
The stories we tell will get you thinking about how to secure the future for the human race and all Earth's inhabitants - from how you can build positive change in your local community, to how you might broaden your reach and impact globally.
About Our Host: A natural products industry executive, Corinna Bellizzi helped develop and grow several responsible, sustainable nutrition brands including: Nordic Naturals and ORLO Nutrition. With these achievements and experience, Corinna went back to school to earn her MBA at Santa Clara University, and is now pursuing her PhD in Sustainability Education at Prescott College. Her colorful career and exceptional experiences fill this show with life-changing conversations and insights you're sure to benefit from. She exemplifies how to deliver genuine value, achieve bigger things, and pursue significant positive change. Care More Be Better is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, Audible, our website and most major podcast platforms. JOIN OUR CIRCLE. BUILD A GREENER FUTURE! https://caremorebebetter.com
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