Herrera's Inter Milan: The Birth of the Catenaccio
Welcome to this Champions League special episode of It Was What It Was with hosts Rob Draper and Jonathan Wilson. In this episode, they dive deep into the rich tactical history of Inter Milan, tracing the origins and impact of the famous Catenaccio system introduced by legendary coach Helenio Herrera in the 1960s. They explore Herrera's significant influence on modern football management, his controversial methods, and the eventual decline of his tactical system. Additionally, the hosts draw parallels between Herrera's era and Inter Milan's current approach under Simone Inzaghi, highlighting how historical tactics still resonate today as they face PSG inJoin us at the end of the week as we turn our attention to PSG's history, as they look to win the Champions League for the first time.00:00 Introduction 00:19 Champions League Special: Setting the Scene00:34 Helena Herrera: The Tactical Genius01:56 The Birth of Catenaccio02:56 Karl Rappan and the Swiss Influence08:43 Catenaccio's Evolution in Italy13:31 The Rise of Inter Milan19:02 Herrera's Early Career and Philosophy27:31 Herrera's Impact at Barcelona29:54 Transition to Inter Milan30:07 Inter's Turbulent Coaching History30:39 Helenio Herrera's Arrival and Impact31:17 Herrera's Strict Regimen and Control34:55 Tactical Innovations and Success42:06 Controversies and Criticisms49:31 The Decline of Herrera's Inter56:50 Legacy and Modern Comparisons01:02:19 Conclusion and Upcoming Content Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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1984/85: The Season that Shook English Football, Part Two - Heysel
Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. This, co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper focus on the 1984/85 season that changed English football, with Part One focussing on the numerous fan violence incidents then the tragedy of the Bradford fire as 56 fans lost their lives.Today, in part two, Tony Evans, former sports editor at The Times and author of 'Two Tribes' and 'Far Foreign Land' joins the show to talk about Heysel. In this episode, Tony Evans shares his harrowing experiences and poignant reflections on the Heysel Stadium disaster of 1985, when 39 football fans tragically lost their lives during the European Cup Final between Liverpool and Juventus. The discussion covers the chaotic events leading up to the disaster, the atmosphere in Brussels, and the aftermath, both immediate and long-term, for football and fan culture. Don't miss this in-depth exploration of one of the darkest days in football history.00:00 Introducing the Podcast and Special Guest Tony Evans02:15 Liverpool in 1985: A City and Club in Turmoil02:30 The Violent Year: Football and Social Unrest05:09 The Day of the Heysel Disaster: Personal Accounts07:46 Chaos in Brussels: The Build-Up to Tragedy16:57 The Collapse: Mismanagement and Miscommunication27:45 The Aftermath: Reactions and Reflections30:35 The Aftermath of the Tragedy31:43 Personal Recollections and Impact32:26 Documentary Insights and Victim Stories34:56 Chaos and Confusion at the Stadium38:25 The Decision to Continue the Game49:08 Reflections on Fan Behaviour and Consequences51:27 The Broader Context and Political Reactions53:48 Long-term Changes in Football Culture58:38 Concluding Thoughts on the Tragedy Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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1984/85: The Season that Shook English Football, Part One
Welcome to It Was When It Was, the football history podcast. This week we're focussing on the 1984-85 footballing season - arguably the bleakest time in English football history - that changed the game forever.Co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper begin the first of two episodes covering the violence, tragedy, and upheaval of this period and the wider context of football hooliganism in the first half, whilst the second half of part one pays tribute to the horrific Bradford Fire that claimed 56 lives 40 years ago. Explore gripping firsthand accounts, the reactions of key figures, and the societal and institutional issues that plagued the sport, leading to safety measures and ultimately, a transformation in football culture.Join us on Friday as we are joined by Tony Evans to talk about the Heysel tragedy that happened at the end of May in 1985.00:00 Introduction to the Podcast01:09 Reflecting on the 1984-85 Season02:47 The Bradford Fire Tragedy04:00 Football's Decrepit Stadiums06:31 Chelsea vs. Sunderland: Milk Cup Semi-Final Chaos12:36 Luton vs. Millwall: FA Cup Violence26:35 Birmingham vs. Leeds: Championship Decider Mayhem29:10 Fans Fight Back and Prolonged Chaos30:52 Medieval Fortress and Perimeter Fences31:59 Racism and Aggression in Football Culture33:15 Introduction to the Bradford Fire35:04 The Start of the Fire and Initial Reactions36:16 Rapid Escalation and Desperate Attempts to Escape38:20 Heartbreaking Personal Accounts and Immediate Aftermath47:16 Investigations and Controversies50:57 Negligence and Legal Consequences57:30 Broader Implications and Future Changes59:24 Conclusion and Preview of Next Episode Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Verona's Miracle Season: The Story of the 1985 Serie A Champions
Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast! Join co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper as they welcome special guest Richard Hough, author of 'Verona Capone, the Miracle of 85'. In this episode, Richard delves into the extraordinary story of Hellas Verona's incredible 1984-85 Serie A title win. From the chaotic Italian football landscape of the 1980s, managerial masterstrokes, and key foreign signings, to the unforgettable moments and lasting impact on the city of Verona, this episode is a deep dive into one of football's most romantic underdog stories. Join us as we explore how a small provincial team conquered giants like AC Milan and Juventus to achieve an unexpected and historic league victory.00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome01:02 Setting the Scene: 1980s Italian Football02:21 Verona's Rise to Glory03:28 Economic and Social Context05:08 Key Players and Strategic Moves12:15 Tactical Insights and Coaching Philosophy15:15 Foreign Players and Their Impact22:55 The Perfect Season Opener25:04 The Opening Goal and Season Kickoff25:29 Verona's Iconic Moments and Key Players30:05 The Turning Point in the Season33:01 The Final Stretch to the Title40:42 Celebrations and Legacy Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Crystal Palace 1990: Eagles' FA Cup Heroics and the Final that Saved Sir Alex
Welcome back to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast.It’s FA Cup final week, with Manchester City set to take on Crystal Palace at Wembley. In this episode, co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper revisit the dramatic story of Palace’s remarkable run to the 1990 FA Cup Final.Just months after a crushing 9-0 defeat to Liverpool, Crystal Palace stunned the same side in a sensational 4-3 semi-final — a match still regarded as one of the greatest in FA Cup history. That victory set up a final against Sir Alex Ferguson’s Manchester United, who, at the time, were still chasing their first trophy under his management.Today, we delve into where Crystal Palace stood as a club in 1990, explore their tactical shifts, highlight standout performances — especially the impact of Ian Wright — and examine Manchester United’s situation under Ferguson, including the pivotal moments that led to his first silverware with the club. We also examine whether Palace could shock Manchester City and finally win the FA Cup for the first time in their history.Chapters00:00 Introduction02:23 Crystal Palace's Journey to the Semis03:37 Televised Semifinals and Hillsborough's Impact11:55 Crystal Palace's Tactical Shift15:17 The Dramatic Semifinal Match20:39 Crystal Palace's Historic FA Cup Final21:06 Manchester United's Journey to the 1990 FA Cup Final25:55 Ian Wright's Miraculous Comeback28:35 The Replay and Ferguson's First Trophy31:56 Comparing Crystal Palace Eras36:05 Can Crystal Palace Upset Manchester City? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
About It Was What It Was : The Football History Podcast
Welcome to The Overlap's football history podcast, It Was What It Was.Each week Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper will be talking about the key episodes in football history that have shaped the footballing world.The show will be discussing the best stories from football's past, giving insights to the personalities involved. the tales from behind the scenes and the impact they left.Join us at Football University!If you enjoy the podcast please hit subscribe to never miss an episode. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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