The Eat Nourish Love Podcast

Elisabeth Whiting was 20 years out of work, raising four children, and approaching 50 when she tried The Human Being Diet.
Three years later she is the recipe developer behind the HBD cookbooks published by Thorsons HarperCollins.
In this episode she talks to Caroline Cary about food noise, emotional eating, the confidence to start again in midlife, and why the word "diet" is the wrong word for what she does.

About our guest
Elisabeth Whiting is a self-taught cook and former textile designer and illustrator who worked in IT sales before stepping back to raise her family.
She discovered The Human Being Diet in 2022, began creating recipes around the HBD larder, and was invited to collaborate by HBD creator and nutritionist Petronella Ravenshear.
She now writes weekly recipes for the HBD Club and has co-created three HBD titles in a year.

In this conversation
Why HBD is about metabolic rhythm and meal timing, not deprivation
Food noise: how conflicting nutrition advice leaves people paralysed at the fridge
Boredom eating, tiredness eating, and identifying your own triggers
How your palate changes when processed food comes out
The four HBD phases explained, including the 16-day Reset and the Burn phase
Surgical menopause, brain fog, inflammation, and cooking for hormone health
Getting a HarperCollins book deal at 50, and imposter syndrome in a room full of famous authors
Why women undersell their talent, and what changes when they stop.

Three takeaways
There is always space for a new chapter. Be your own champion first.
Small steps beat radical overhauls. Even leaving five hours between meals is a start.
Fresh herbs on the windowsill, a bowl of lemons, and good olive oil will change how you cook.

Find Elisabeth
Website: https://www.elisabethwhiting.co.uk
Instagram: @lizzie.hbdfoodie
The HBD Reset Cookbook, Thorsons HarperCollins, 2026: available at Waterstones, Amazon and independent bookshops
The Human Being Diet: https://thehumanbeingdiet.com

About Eat Nourish Love
Hosted by Caroline Cary, Eat Nourish Love explores the stories and insights that shape us, with guests from wellness, business, self-care and personal growth. Listen to every episode: https://www.eatnourishlove.com/podcasts/
Shared as personal experience, not medical advice.
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Your body already knows how to heal. Chinese medicine just helps it remember. UK Chinese medicine practitioner Katie Brindle on the £10 back massage that ended 30 years of chronic pain, and the three free things that matter more than anything you can buy.

After a car accident ended her career as an opera singer and left her in pain that Western medicine couldn't touch, Katie stumbled into a TCM clinic on the Edgware Road almost by chance. One treatment changed the direction of her life.

In this episode she and Caroline Cary get into why prevention beats cure, why the wellness industry got so complicated, and the simple foundations of looking after yourself that cost nothing.

What we coverThe accident that ended one life and started another. Why Chinese medicine is a complete system, not just massage and herbs. Prevention over cure, and what Western healthcare still misses.

The "healing pivot" and why the body can right itself.Breathe, move, schedule: the three free foundations of self-careWhy me, why this, why now: the three questions behind getting sick. Reading your symptoms as messages, and the body's daily clock.

About Katie Brindle
Katie Brindle’s journey into Chinese medicine began with an unexpected turning point. She had always dreamed of becoming an opera singer, but in her early twenties a serious car accident changed everything. Damage to her vocal cords brought that dream to an abrupt end, followed by years of chronic pain and ongoing health struggles.

Five years later, she stepped into a small Chinese medicine clinic on a London high street. There, she experienced body gua sha for the first time and felt something she had not felt in years: genuine relief. It was a true eureka moment, one that would completely change the course of her life.

The Own Your Health system, Why wellness doesn't need to be so complicated. How Chinese Medicine can help you today
Find Katie
https://www.instagram.com/katie_brindle/ https://www.youtube.com/@KatieBrindleOfficial https://www.tiktok.com/@katie_brindle https://www.facebook.com/KatieBrindleOfficial/

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Chapters
00:00 The accident that changed everything
03:44 What actually happened
07:37 Western vs Chinese medicine as a complete system
11:38 What's gone wrong with wellness
25:03 Your body is designed to heal
27:29 Breathe, move, schedule
54:00 Why me, why this, why now
57:21 Where to find Katie

In this episode of Eat Nourish Love, Caroline Cary is joined by Leslie Kenny, former international banker and Walt Disney executive turned longevity entrepreneur, and founder of Oxford Healthspan.
In her late 30s, Leslie was diagnosed with lupus, rheumatoid arthritis and later Hashimoto's thyroiditis, and told there was no cure and perhaps five years left.
Refusing to accept that, she rebuilt her health through nutrition, lifestyle and a deep dive into cellular science, went into remission within six months, and conceived naturally at 43 after being told it was impossible.
Her story will resonate with anyone who has been dismissed by the system, handed a label instead of an answer, or told it is simply too late.
About Leslie Kenny
Leslie Kenny is a longevity entrepreneur and the founder of Oxford Healthspan. A UC Berkeley graduate with a Harvard MBA, she began her career in Swiss banking before joining Walt Disney, where she was handed its then unprofitable internet division and went on to launch one of the first online matchmaking companies in China and across Asia, working directly with the Chinese government on early public health education.
After transforming her own health following an autoimmune diagnosis, she partnered with scientists affiliated with the University of Oxford to make science-led, food-derived longevity solutions more widely available.
What This Episode
traces the path from a high-stress, sedentary corporate life to the "perfect storm" that preceded her illness, and the moment a doctor advised her against another round of IVF because she had five years left. She explains the mindset that changed everything: aiming to be just 1% better each day, and throwing the kitchen sink at her own recovery.
The conversation then turns to the science Leslie built a company around: spermidine, a food-derived compound studied at Oxford for its role in autophagy, the body's cellular self-cleaning process.
She explains how it renews ageing immune cells, why fasting alone may not trigger cell renewal without it, which everyday foods contain it, and how it differs from weight-loss drugs and HRT. They also cover biological age testing, hormone balance, and the mission of the Oxford Longevity Project.
Resources and Mentions
Spermidine research at the University of Oxford, Kennedy Institute for Rheumatology.
Dr Barry Sears, The Anti-Aging ZoneGerald Epstein, Healing Visualizations
Biological age tests mentioned: GlycanAge and the Dunedin PACE test
Dr Barry Durrant-Peatfield, thyroid specialistContact Leslie Kenny
Oxford Healthspan: oxfordhealthspan.com
Instagram: @lesliesnewprime
Oxford Longevity Project: oxfordlongevityproject.com
Instagram @oxfordlongevityproject
Leslie's Three Key Takeaways:
Move. We were never designed to be sedentary, yet laptops, screens and video calls conspire to keep us still. Movement, not too much and not too little, is foundational.
Nourish. Not just good food and water in the right amounts, but social connection, a sense of purpose, volunteering, good sleep and stress reduction. All of it is nourishment.
Renew. Trigger the body's self-renewal through autophagy, and get yourself into a parasympathetic state where you feel safe enough to rest, repair and restore. Unresolved stress and trauma keep inflammation lingering, so renewal matters as much as diet and movement.
About Eat Nourish Love
Eat Nourish Love Podcast is your go-to space for wellness, self-care, and inspiring stories.
Hosted by Caroline Carey, we bring you powerful conversations with incredible guests who share insights on health, business, and personal growth.
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Caroline Carey sits down with Libbla Kelly, founder of Right to Rise and Wisdom While You Work, for a conversation about handwriting as a tool for self-awareness, emotional processing and change.Libbla makes the case that reading absorbs you but writing rewires you. Backed by neuroscience, her work uses the physical act of putting pen to paper to slow the brain down, reach past the patterns we hide behind, and process what we would rather push away. Caroline and Libbla go back many years, so this one is personal: two friends on how a notebook became non-negotiable.If you have ever rolled your eyes at "journaling", or tried and not got on with it, or even love it and want to take it a step further - this is the episode that reframes it.In this episode:00:00 Change happens when you want it01:24 Welcome to Eat Nourish Love01:45 Meet Libbla Kelly and Write to Rise03:20 From stationery monitor to a life with the pen05:19 Why handwriting, not a keyboard07:50 Memory is a muscle09:06 Reach out, but also reach in12:05 The method: Stop, Read, Listen, Feel, Write, Rise13:11 Using breathwork to prepare16:36 Sitting with the feeling20:18 Cortisol, scrolling and the quick fix23:34 Over-coping and the weight women carry28:40 Women's wellbeing in the workplace31:02 Inside the Right to Rise book library36:03 Breaking the negative thought loop36:54 When and where to journal41:43 The block, and the light behind it43:41 Three things to take away46:04 Where to find LibblaFind Libbla Kelly:www.WisdomWhileYouWork.comwww.Libbla.comEat Nourish Love is hosted by Caroline Carey. Subscribe for weekly conversations on wellness, business, self-care and personal growth.#EatNourishLove #Journaling #Handwriting #WomensWellbeing #Journaling #PersonalGrowth #CarolineCarey

In this episode of Eat Nourish Love, Caroline Cary is joined by Andrew Wallas, the businessman turned spiritual teacher widely known as the Business Shaman. Andrew built and sold companies worth tens of millions before a breakdown at 28 sent him in a completely different direction.
He shares the story of the dark place that nearly ended his life, the moment of surrender that changed everything, and the work he has done on himself for the past 40 years. The conversation moves into intention versus goal setting, why alignment matters more than willpower, and the shadow as the place of greatest reward rather than something to fear. Andrew also unpacks image, narcissism and polarity, and gives three simple exercises anyone can use to start changing today.

About Andrew Wallas
Andrew Wallas is a business transformation consultant, author and teacher. After a successful career in the City, he took a master's in psychology and a degree in theology and philosophy, and went on to found the School for Business Alchemy and the Academy of Alchemy. He works with leaders, hedge fund managers and individuals on inner change as the route to outer results.

Andrew's Books
Business Alchemy
Intention
Contact Andrew Wallas
Website: andrewwallas.org
School for Business Alchemy: theschoolforbusinessalchemy.org
Andrew's Three Key Takeaways
Surrender opens the door. His turnaround came not from trying harder but from giving in completely when every other option had failed.
Intention needs alignment. Setting an intention is necessary but not enough. You have to align your thinking, emotions and daily actions with it, and that is how synchronicity starts to happen.
The shadow is where the energy is. Owning the parts of yourself you have suppressed or judge in others ("just like me") brings wholeness, and wholeness is where real change lives.

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