The Systems Engineering Podcast

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🔗 EPISODE LINKS 🔗
- Prof. Dov Dori:
-- https://dovdori.technion.ac.il/
-- https://professional.mit.edu/programs/faculty-profiles/dov-dori
-- https://www.linkedin.com/in/dov-dori-90973
- OPCloud: https://www.opcloud.tech/
 
- Book: Dori, D. (2016). Model-based systems engineering with OPM and SysML (Vol. 15). New York: Springer.
- Book: Dori, D. (2002). Object-process methodology: A holistic systems paradigm; with cd-rom. Springer Science & Business Media.
 
- ISO 19450:2024 - Object-Process Methodology: https://www.iso.org/standard/84612.html
 
Selected Papers:
- Kang, X., Shteingardt, V., Wang, Y., & Dori, D. (2025). Neuro-Conceptual Artificial Intelligence: Integrating OPM with Deep Learning to Enhance Question Answering Quality. arXiv e-prints, arXiv-2502.
- Dori, Dov. "Model‐based standards authoring: ISO 15288 as a case in point." Systems Engineering 27.2 (2024): 302-314.
- Yaroker, Y., Perelman, V. and Dori, D. (2013), An OPM conceptual model-based executable simulation environment: Implementation and evaluation. Syst. Engin., 16: 381-390.
- Somekh, J., Choder, M., & Dori, D. (2012). Conceptual model-based systems biology: Mapping knowledge and discovering gaps in the mRNA transcription cycle. PloS one, 7(12), e51430.
 
⏱️ TIMESTAMPS ⏱️
00:00:00 Introduction — Who is Dov Dori, what is OPM + PDF notes 
00:01:48 OPM fundamentals — objects, processes, diagrams + OPL
00:05:03 Learning OPM quickly — simplicity, books, OPC Cloud
00:07:25 Origin — from information systems to systems engineering
00:14:35 ISO 19450 journey — PAS → ISO, qualitative OPM only
00:16:55 Conceptual → computational OPM — attributes, formulas, simulation
00:18:20 OPM + AI — OPL interpretation, natural language → models
00:24:15 Model-based ISO standards, contradictions, risk modelling
00:35:20 Feedback loops, system dynamics, modelling depth
00:36:50 OPM vs SysML — strengths, diagrams, communication 
00:44:20 Beyond engineering — law, contracts, patents, structured knowledge 
00:57:30 Neuron demo — OPM in biology + AI narrative generation 
01:06:20 Future of OPM — education, kids, neuro-conceptual AGI
01:16:35 Final message 
01:17:37 Outro — download PDF notes, buy books, training etc

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🔗 EPISODE LINKS 🔗
William D. Miller:
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/william-miller-504a882/
INCOSE Future of Systems Engineering (FuSE):
- https://www.incose.org/communities/working-groups-initiatives/fuse
INCOSE Systems Engineering Vision 2035:
- https://www.incose.org/publications/se-vision-2035
 
⏱️ TIMESTAMPS ⏱️
00:00:00 Introduction + who is Bill; PDF summary
00:01:05 At INCOSE IW 2025 — What is the future of SE?
00:01:15 Vision 2035 and shift from process to engineering of systems
00:01:36 The "ilities" challenge — integrating quality metrics
00:01:46 What a chief systems engineer actually does (requirements → sell-off)
00:02:31 Cross-discipline story - the F=ma whiteboard test
00:03:08 Back to our roots — process ≠ outcomes; "engineering of systems"
00:03:51 Four workstreams - foundations, methodology, vision/roadmap, applications
00:04:04 Application extensions beyond aero/defense (incl. healthcare, automotive)
00:04:22 Energy transition focus
00:04:36 Kodiak Island microgrid case (hydro, diesel, wind, crane regen, flywheel)
00:06:32 2003 Northeast blackout — overlooked dependencies at airports
00:07:42 Fukushima lesson — scenario planning (CONOPS) and tsunami risk
00:08:29 How to get involved- search "Systems Engineering Vision 2035"
00:08:57 Be proactive — we can't be passive about the vision
00:09:45 Vision 2035 structure - trends, current state, future, roadmap (2025/2030/2035)
00:10:53 Parting message - collaborate across the whole systems community
00:11:17 Wrap-up and thanks

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🔗 EPISODE LINKS 🔗
Michael D. Watson:
- https://www.incose.org/about-incose/organization/leadership/michael-watson-bio
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-watson-33294183/
NASA/TP–20205003644: Engineering Elegant Systems:
- https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/nasa_tp_20205003644_interactive2.pdf
 
⏱️ TIMESTAMPS ⏱️
00:00:00 Introduction
00:00:19 What it's like being INCOSE President-Elect?
00:02:26 From NASA work to INCOSE principles (and why principles matter)
00:03:20 Origin of NASA's "Engineering Elegant Systems: Theory of Systems Engineering"
00:05:15 Why systems engineering is essential at NASA
00:07:03 Adoption & impact: principles → handbooks and guidance
00:08:15 The commercial space shift - beyond big gov & primes - Parallels with aviation
00:12:25 Shuttle reuse realities vs early vision
00:14:21 Tech transfer NASA → commercial engines & rockets
00:16:46 Advice to students/early-career degrees, paths, options
00:18:26 Multiple pathways machining, manufacturing, precision build
00:20:33 How to get involved with INCOSE

INCOSE (International Council on Systems Engineering) President Ralf Hartmann explains the global evolution of systems engineering, the unique role of the International Workshop, and how INCOSE is connecting technical leaders around the world.

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🔗 EPISODE LINKS 🔗
- INCOSE (International Council on Systems Engineering):
– https://www.incose.org/
- Ralf Hartmann INCOSE President 2024-2025:
– https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralf-hartmann-1a03a214
– https://www.incose.org/about-incose/organization/leadership/ralf-hartmann-bio
 
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Gary Smith explains the importance of systems science and how he has used his presidency of the ISSS to enable collaboration within the wider systems community.

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🔗 EPISODE LINKS 🔗
- International Society for the Systems Sciences (ISSS):
– https://www.isss.org/home/
- Gary Smith ISSS President 2024:
– https://www.isss.org/isss-president-gary-smith/
– https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-smith-5338aa4/
 
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