The MAD Podcast with Matt Turck

In this special episode of the MAD Podcast, Matt Turck and Aman Kabeer from FirstMark delve into the AI market from a venture investor perspective, in the final weeks of an incredibly packed and exciting 2024. They comment on their favorite news stories, such as OpenAI's record-breaking $6.6 billion funding round and the massive $200B investments in AI infrastructure by Meta, Google, and Amazon. They tackle the latest trends in funding and valuations in both public and private markets, debate the critical question of whether we're in an AI bubble, examine the current state of AI demand, the potential of scaling laws, and the future of AI-driven innovation. They then discuss where they see opportunities for startups and investors across AI hardware, compute, foundation models, AI tooling, and both consumer and enterprise AI applications. FIRSTMARK Website - https://firstmark.com X/Twitter - https://twitter.com/FirstMarkCap Matt Turck (Managing Director) LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/turck/ X/Twitter - https://twitter.com/mattturck Aman Kabeer (Investor) LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/aman-kabeer/ X/Twitter - https://x.com/AmanKabeer11 (00:00) Intro (02:20) The Year of Record-Breaking Evaluations and Investments (05:23) AI's Environmental Impact and Nuclear Revival (06:48) AI Valuations and Market Dynamics (17:01) Are We in an AI Bubble? (25:01) AI Progress and Demand (35:06) AI's Role in Consumer Applications (41:02) AI's Influence on SaaS and Business Models (50:55) AI's Role in Enterprise Transformation (01:04:00) The Future of AI: Apps and Agents

Before he founded Modal, Erik Bernhardsson created Spotify's music recommendation system. Today he's bringing a consumer app approach to radically simplifying developer experience for data and AI projects on the Modal platform. In this episode, we dive into the broader AI compute landscape, discussing the roles of hyperscalers, GPU clouds, inference platforms, and the emergence of alternative AI cloud providers. Erik gives us a product tour of the Modal platform, provides insights into the AI industry's shift from training to inference as the primary use case, and speculates on the future of AI-native consumer applications. Learn about Modal's commitment to fast feedback loops, their cloud maximalist approach, their dedication to building a product that developers truly love, as well as founder lessons Erik learned along the way. Erik's blog: https://erikbern.com "It's hard to write code for humans": https://erikbern.com/2024/09/27/its-hard-to-write-code-for-humans Modal Website - https://modal.com Twitter - https://x.com/modal_labs Erik Bernhardsson LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/erikbern Twitter - https://x.com/bernhardsson FIRSTMARK Website - https://firstmark.com Twitter - https://twitter.com/FirstMarkCap Matt Turck (Managing Director) LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/turck/ Twitter - https://twitter.com/mattturck (00:00) Intro (01:35) What is Modal? (02:18) Current state of AI compute space (09:54) Erik's path to starting Modal (13:57) Core elements of the Modal platform (28:52) Is serverless the right level of abstraction for AI compute? (33:35) Balancing costs: GPU vendor fees vs. customer pricing (37:56) Designing products for humans (42:43) Modal's early go-to-market motion (45:32) Managing early engineering team (48:26) The only correct way to add a new function to the company (50:07) Building company in NYC (52:05) Modal's roadmap (54:04) Erik's predictions on AI

A founding engineer on Google BigQuery and now at the helm of MotherDuck, Jordan Tigani challenges the decade-long dominance of Big Data and introduces a compelling alternative that could change how companies handle data. Jordan discusses why Big Data technologies are an overkill for most companies, how MotherDuck and DuckDB offer fast analytical queries, and lessons learned as a technical founder building his first startup. Watch the episode with Tomasz Tunguz: https://youtu.be/gU6dGmZzmvI Website - https://motherduck.com Twitter - https://x.com/motherduck Jordan Tigani LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordantigani Twitter - https://x.com/jrdntgn FIRSTMARK Website - https://firstmark.com Twitter - https://twitter.com/FirstMarkCap Matt Turck (Managing Director) LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/turck/ Twitter - https://twitter.com/mattturck (00:00) Intro (00:56) What is the Small Data? (06:56) Marketing strategy of MotherDuck (08:39) Processing Small Data with Big Data stack (15:30) DuckDB (17:21) Creation of DuckDB (18:48) Founding story of MotherDuck (24:08) MotherDuck's community (25:25) MotherDuck of today ($100M raised) (33:15) Why MotherDuck and DuckDB are so fast? (39:08) The limitations and the future of MotherDuck's platform (39:49) Small Models (42:37) Small Data and the Modern Data Stack (46:47) Making things simpler with a shift from Big Data to Small Data (50:04) Jordan Tigani's entrepreneurial journey (58:31) Outro

With a $4.5B valuation, 5M AI builders and 1M public AI models, Hugging Face has emerged as the key collaboration platform for AI, and the heart of the global open source AI community. In this episode of The MAD Podcast, we sit down with Clément Delangue, its co-founder and CEO, and delve deep into Hugging Face's journey from a fun chatbot to a central hub for AI innovation, the impact of open-source AI and the importance of community-driven development, and discuss the shift from text to other AI modalities like audio, video, chemistry, and biology. We also cover the evolution of Hugging Face's business model, and the different approach to company culture that the founders have implemented over the years. Hugging Face Website - https://huggingface.co Twitter - https://x.com/huggingface Clem Delangue LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/clementdelangue Twitter - https://x.com/clemdelangue FIRSTMARK Website - https://firstmark.com Twitter - https://twitter.com/FirstMarkCap Matt Turck (Managing Director) LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/turck/ Twitter - https://twitter.com/mattturck (00:00) Intro (01:46) Miami vs. New York vs. San Francisco (03:25) Current state of open source AI (11:12) Government regulation of AI (13:18) What is open source AI? (15:21) Open source AI: China vs U.S. (18:32) LLMs vs. SLMs (22:01) Are commercial LLMs just 'Training Wheels' for enterprises? (24:26) Software 2.0: built with AI (28:03) Hugging Face founding story (37:03) Are there any competitors? (44:06) Most interesting models on Hugging Face (50:35) Shifting focus in enterprise solutions (55:06) Bloom & Idefix (58:44) The culture of Hugging Face (01:04:44) The future of Hugging Face