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  • AI & I

    A $10B Hedge Fund’s AI Playbook (Best of the Pod)

    26/08/2026 | 1h 7 mins.
    Will England is the CEO of Walleye Capital, a hedge fund managing nearly $10 billion in assets. An engineer by training with a math background from Oxford, he has spent his career at the intersection of machines and markets—and has made AI fluency mandatory for all 400 employees.
    England believes refusing to use AI is like refusing to use the internet in 1995 because it wasn’t perfect. His use of AI is public and effusive, including in a firm-wide email that opened with “I used ChatGPT to write this email. You should be using it, too, and be proud of it.” AI informs how Walleye drafts memos and selects stocks.
    On Every’s AI & I, Dan Shipper spoke with England about why he’s betting his entire organization on AI, why “results are what matter” more than blood, sweat, and tears, and what the American frontier can teach us about leading through technological change.
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    Timestamps:
    0:00 Start
    0:51 Introduction
    3:25 What pushed Will to go all in on AI
    15:15 Inside the ‘AI-first’ memo Will shared at Walleye
    17:02 Why you shouldn’t be afraid of using AI for work
    31:25 How Will uses LLMs to sharpen his thinking
    35:57 Walleye’s approach to using AI to reduce risk
    39:35 What history can teach us about leading through change
    57:10 Will’s first principles for making better decisions
    59:23 Why Will journals every day—and how AI makes it easier
    Links to resources mentioned in the episode:
    Will England/Walleye Capital: https://walleyecapital.com/bio/will-england
    Every’s AI tools—Monologue, Cora, Spiral, and Sparkle: https://every.to/studio
    Every’s AI consulting: https://every.to/consulting
  • AI & I

    The AI Alien Companion App That's Bringing In $4M a Year (Best of the Pod)

    19/08/2026 | 1h 22 mins.
    LLMs are a new medium for storytelling.
    That’s according to the creators of Portola, the company behind Tolan: an embodied AI companion that lives on its own planet and chats to you with a distinct personality. In 2025, Portola's founder and CEO Quinten Farmer and Head of Story Eliot Peper joined Dan Shipper to explain how they’re building this new medium from scratch. Their aim is to help users go from overwhelmed to grounded through conversations with Tolan that feel personal and spontaneous, not scripted. 
    On this week’s AI & I, Dan revisits his conversation with Quinten and Eliot. They discuss why response time is everything for voice-based AI interfaces, how Portola designs AI personalities users will click with, and why character-driven AI could become a new computing interface. 
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    Timestamps:
     00:01:30 - Introduction
     00:04:07 - Talking to the Portola CEO's Tolan, Clarence
     00:09:11 - How Portola went from building software for kids to AI companions
     00:23:40 - Why response time is everything for voice-based AI interfaces
     00:29:54 - Tolans don't use scripted prompts—they're taught to improvise
     00:37:23 - How to know which AI personalities your users will click with
     00:42:27 - Developing the character traits of an AI companion
     00:49:48 - What does it mean to build technology that makes us flourish
     01:01:10 - How Portola evaluates whether Tolans are resonating with users
     01:11:01 - Inside Portola's viral growth strategy
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    Microsoft’s Vision for an Internet Made for Agents With CTO Kevin Scott (Best of the Pod)

    12/08/2026 | 28 mins.
    In 2025, Kevin Scott bet that the agentic web would be the next big thing in AI.
    The Microsoft CTO argued that for agents to be genuinely useful, they'd need to be able to take action on our behalf—which would mean giving them access to the same sprawl of tools, data, and systems that make up the internet. Today, that bet is starting to pay off, as the foundational infrastructure for the agentic web is now being built.
    On this week's AI & I, Dan Shipper revisits his conversation with Kevin. They discuss Microsoft's role in the agentic web, why openness doesn't have to come at the expense of security, and why programmers should stay curious about new tools rather than resist them on principle.
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    Timestamps: 
    0:00 Start
    1:44 Introduction
    2:49 The race to close the "capability overhang"
    4:31 How agents will evolve into practical, useful tools
    6:48 The role Kevin sees Microsoft playing in the agent ecosystem
    12:05 How robust security measures can coexist with open ecosystems
    15:39 Kevin's philosophy on being a craftsman in the age of agents
    20:52 How the landscape of software development agents will evolve
    25:33 The future of agentic workflows
    Links to resources mentioned in the episode:
    Kevin Scott on X: https://twitter.com/kevin_scott
    Model Context Protocol (MCP): https://modelcontextprotocol.io
    NLWeb: https://github.com/microsoft/NLWeb
    GitHub Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot
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    Why the Next Hit AI Product Will Be Social Why the Next Hit AI Product Will Be Social (Best of the Pod)

    05/08/2026 | 48 mins.
    Most consumer AI so far has been single-player: you and a chatbot, alone.
    Benchmark partner Sarah Tavel, one of Pinterest's first 30 employees, is betting that's about to change. She's looking for a product genius who can build an AI product with social DNA: status, network effects, and multiplayer dynamics. That'll enable users of ChatGPT and other models to learn from how others use AI and level up.
    On this week’s AI & I, Dan Shipper revisits his conversation with Sarah. They talk about why technical founders dominate the early days of a platform shift while product-minded founders win later, what ChatGPT is still missing, and what separates a founder's real network effect from a slide with a flywheel diagram.

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    Timestamps for YouTube:
    0:00 Start
    1:10 Introduction
    2:26 Why the future of consumer AI belongs to founders with product intuition
    11:09 What Sarah sees as ChatGPT's biggest weakness
    18:45 How Sarah would design a consumer AI app with social DNA
    24:10 The kind of founders Sarah invests in
    28:33 How to know if your startup's network effects are real
    35:40 What's catching Sarah's eye beyond AI
    40:41 How AI will change the way top venture capitalists invest

    Links to resources mentioned in the episode:
    Sarah Tavel on X: https://x.com/sarahtavel
    Benchmark: https://benchmark.com
    Agentio (marketplace for YouTube creators and brands): https://agentio.com/ 
    Chainalysis: https://chainalysis.com
    The Five Temptations of a CEO by Patrick Lencioni: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007BZBRB8
    Thinking in Bets by Annie Duke: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0HBBW23PM
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    Best of the Pod: Wired's Kevin Kelly on Why AI Is a 50-year Overnight Success

    29/07/2026 | 53 mins.
    Kevin Kelly has spent over 30 years experiencing the edge of new technology: from the earliest days of the internet to the first years of Burning Man. But he’s always treated the frontier as a place to visit, not somewhere to live. It’s partially how he’s been able to stay grounded through tech’s various hype cycles.
    As founding executive editor of Wired and author of The Inevitable, Kelly spends as much time analyzing the latest in AI as he does reading about significant moments in history. It’s a discipline he traces back to his work with the Long Now Foundation, which he cofounded to encourage long-term thinking, reaching from the last 10,000 years to the next. 
    On this week’s AI & I, Dan Shipper revisits his conversation with Kelly. They get into why historians can be the best futurists, and how our bid to understand what intelligence is has parallels with early scientists' attempts to figure out electricity. 
    Kelly also describes the joy he found in creating an AI-generated saga featuring Leonardo Da Vinci, Christopher Columbus, and Martin Luther—one that will only ever be read and enjoyed by him.
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    Timestamps for YouTube:
    0:00 Start 
    0:50 Introduction 
    1:10 Why Dan and Kelly love Annie Dillard 
    12:52 How to predict the future like Kelly
    16:10 What the history of electricity can teach us about AI 
    20:13 How Kelly thinks about the nature of intelligence 
    25:44 Kelly's advice on discovering your competitive advantage 
    29:33 How Kelly assembled a bench of star writers for Wired 
    34:43 How Kelly used ChatGPT to co-create a book 
    39:12 Using AI as a mirror for your mind 
    43:43 What Kelly learned from betting on VR in the 1980s
    Links to resources mentioned in the episode:
    Kevin Kelly on X: https://twitter.com/kevin2kelly
    The Inevitable by Kevin Kelly: https://www.amazon.com/Inevitable-Understanding-Technological-Forces-Future/dp/0525428089
    Pilgrim at Tinker Creek by Annie Dillard: https://www.amazon.com/Pilgrim-Tinker-Harper-Perennial-Classics/dp/0061233323
    1,000 True Fans by Kevin Kelly: https://www.amazon.com/1000-True-Fans-Kellys-Simple-ebook/dp/B01N9P9O4G
    Full episode transcript: https://every.to/podcast/transcript-be243312-ea22-4193-8c56-b9cd45a79a87
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About AI & I
Learn how the smartest people in the world are using AI to think, create, and relate. Each week I interview founders, filmmakers, writers, investors, and others about how they use AI tools like ChatGPT, Claude, and Midjourney in their work and in their lives. We screen-share through their historical chats and then experiment with AI live on the show. Join us to discover how AI is changing how we think about our world—and ourselves. For more essays, interviews, and experiments at the forefront of AI: https://every.to/chain-of-thought?sort=newest.
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