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"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis

Erik Torenberg, Nathan Labenz
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis
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  • "The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis

    The Internet Computer: Caffeine.ai CEO Dominic Williams on Unstoppable, Self-Writing Software

    25/1/2026 | 2h 11 mins.
    Dominic Williams, President & Chief Scientist of the DFINITY Foundation and CEO of Caffeine AI, explains the Internet Computer and his vision of a “sovereign cloud where AI builds the web.” He breaks down core innovations like the Network Nervous System, Motoko, and orthogonal persistence, and how AI coding could remove adoption barriers. The conversation explores unstoppable applications, real-world case studies like OpenChat, and the tension between control, security, and decentralization in AI governance.

    LINKS:

    Anthropic article on smart contracts

    Caffeine AI official website

    Internet Computer network dashboard

    Liquid Reign book website

    Sponsors:

    Blitzy:
    Blitzy is the autonomous code generation platform that ingests millions of lines of code to accelerate enterprise software development by up to 5x with premium, spec-driven output. Schedule a strategy session with their AI solutions consultants at https://blitzy.com

    MongoDB:
    Tired of database limitations and architectures that break when you scale? MongoDB is the database built for developers, by developers—ACID compliant, enterprise-ready, and fluent in AI—so you can start building faster at https://mongodb.com/build

    Serval:
    Serval uses AI-powered automations to cut IT help desk tickets by more than 50%, freeing your team from repetitive tasks like password resets and onboarding. Book your free pilot and guarantee 50% help desk automation by week four at https://serval.com/cognitive

    Tasklet:
    Tasklet is an AI agent that automates your work 24/7; just describe what you want in plain English and it gets the job done. Try it for free and use code COGREV for 50% off your first month at https://tasklet.ai

    CHAPTERS:

    (00:00) About the Episode

    (03:37) Origins of Internet Computer

    (10:09) Decentralization philosophy and AI

    (15:12) Tamper-proof architecture explained (Part 1)

    (19:43) Sponsors: Blitzy | MongoDB

    (22:08) Tamper-proof architecture explained (Part 2)

    (25:25) Network design and scaling (Part 1)

    (33:30) Sponsors: Serval | Tasklet

    (35:50) Network design and scaling (Part 2)

    (36:56) Replication costs and cloud

    (50:35) Network Nervous System governance

    (59:33) Caffeine, Motoko and persistence

    (01:20:19) Self-writing cloud disruption

    (01:32:30) Resilience and security guarantees

    (01:41:23) Use cases and limitations

    (01:49:56) AI misalignment and ensembles

    (02:00:47) Kill switches and governance

    (02:09:12) Future of self-writing software

    (02:11:40) Outro

    PRODUCED BY:

    https://aipodcast.ing
  • "The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis

    AMA Part 2: Is Fine-Tuning Dead? How Am I Preparing for AGI? Are We Headed for UBI? & More!

    22/1/2026 | 2h 23 mins.
    In this AMA-style episode, Nathan takes on listener questions about whether fine-tuning is really on the way out, what emergent misalignment and weird generalization results tell us, and how to think about continual learning. He talks candidly about how he’s personally preparing for AGI—from career choices and investing to what resilience steps he has and hasn’t taken. The discussion also covers timelines for job disruption, whether UBI becomes inevitable, how to talk to kids and “normal people” about AI, and which safety approaches are most neglected.

    Sponsors:

    Blitzy:

    Blitzy is the autonomous code generation platform that ingests millions of lines of code to accelerate enterprise software development by up to 5x with premium, spec-driven output. Schedule a strategy session with their AI solutions consultants at https://blitzy.com

    MongoDB:

    Tired of database limitations and architectures that break when you scale? MongoDB is the database built for developers, by developers—ACID compliant, enterprise-ready, and fluent in AI—so you can start building faster at https://mongodb.com/build

    Serval:

    Serval uses AI-powered automations to cut IT help desk tickets by more than 50%, freeing your team from repetitive tasks like password resets and onboarding. Book your free pilot and guarantee 50% help desk automation by week four at https://serval.com/cognitive

    Tasklet:

    Tasklet is an AI agent that automates your work 24/7; just describe what you want in plain English and it gets the job done. Try it for free and use code COGREV for 50% off your first month at https://tasklet.ai

    CHAPTERS:

    (00:00) Ernie cancer update

    (04:57) Is fine-tuning dead (Part 1)

    (12:31) Sponsors: Blitzy | MongoDB

    (14:57) Is fine-tuning dead (Part 2) (Part 1)

    (26:56) Sponsors: Serval | Tasklet

    (29:15) Is fine-tuning dead (Part 2) (Part 2)

    (29:16) Continual learning cautions

    (34:59) Talking to normal people

    (39:30) Personal risk preparation

    (49:59) Investing around AI safety

    (01:00:39) Early childhood AI literacy

    (01:08:55) Work disruption timelines

    (01:27:58) Nonprofits, need, and UBI

    (01:34:53) Benchmarks, AGI, and embodiment

    (01:47:30) AI tooling and platforms

    (01:57:01) Discourse norms and shaming

    (02:05:50) Location and safety funding

    (02:15:17) Turpentine deal and independence

    (02:24:19) Outro

    PRODUCED BY:

    https://aipodcast.ing
  • "The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis

    Pioneering PAI: How Daniel Miessler's Personal AI Infrastructure Activates Human Agency & Creativity

    18/1/2026 | 2h 28 mins.
    Daniel Miessler shares his Personal AI Infrastructure (PAI) framework and vision for a future where single human owners are supported by armies of AI agents. He explains his TELOS system for defining purpose and goals, multi-layered memory design, and orchestration of multiple models and sub-agents. The conversation dives into cybersecurity impacts, from AI-accelerated testing to inevitable personalized spear-phishing and always-on defensive monitoring. Listeners will learn how scaffolding can turn frontier models into true digital assistants and even help reshape their own working habits.

    LINKS:

    PAI principles on GitHub README

    Daniel Miessler about page

    How Miessler's projects fit together

    AI changes predictions for 2026

    Fabric open-source AI framework

    Personal AI Infrastructure GitHub repository

    Current definition of AGI article

    Why we'll have AGI by 2028

    RAID AI definitions framework article

    Unsupervised Learning newsletter signup

    Daniel Miessler LinkedIn profile

    Sponsors:

    MongoDB:
    Tired of database limitations and architectures that break when you scale? MongoDB is the database built for developers, by developers—ACID compliant, enterprise-ready, and fluent in AI—so you can start building faster at https://mongodb.com/build

    Serval:
    Serval uses AI-powered automations to cut IT help desk tickets by more than 50%, freeing your team from repetitive tasks like password resets and onboarding. Book your free pilot and guarantee 50% help desk automation by week four at https://serval.com/cognitive

    MATS:
    MATS is a fully funded 12-week research program pairing rising talent with top mentors in AI alignment, interpretability, security, and governance. Apply for the next cohort at https://matsprogram.org/s26-tcr

    Tasklet:
    Tasklet is an AI agent that automates your work 24/7; just describe what you want in plain English and it gets the job done. Try it for free and use code COGREV for 50% off your first month at https://tasklet.ai

    PRODUCED BY:

    https://aipodcast.ing
  • "The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis

    Snowflake VP of AI Baris Gultekin on Bringing AI to Data, Agent Design, Text-2-SQL, RAG & More

    14/1/2026 | 1h 39 mins.
    Baris Gultekin, VP of AI at Snowflake, explains how “bringing AI to the data” is reshaping enterprise AI deployment under strict security and governance requirements. PSA for AI builders: Interested in alignment, governance, or AI safety? Learn more about the MATS Summer 2026 Fellowship and submit your name to be notified when applications open: https://matsprogram.org/s26-tcr. He shares the importance of bringing AI directly to governed enterprise data, advances in text-to-SQL and semantic modeling, and why high-quality retrieval is foundational for trustworthy AI agents. Baris also dives into Snowflake’s approach to agentic AI, including Snowflake Intelligence, model choice and cost tradeoffs, and why governance, security, and open standards are essential as AI becomes accessible to every business user.

    LINKS:

    AWS' Automated Reasoning checks

    Sponsors:

    MongoDB:

    Tired of database limitations and architectures that break when you scale? MongoDB is the database built for developers, by developers—ACID compliant, enterprise-ready, and fluent in AI—so you can start building faster at https://mongodb.com/build

    Serval:

    Serval uses AI-powered automations to cut IT help desk tickets by more than 50%, freeing your team from repetitive tasks like password resets and onboarding. Book your free pilot and guarantee 50% help desk automation by week four at https://serval.com/cognitive

    MATS:

    MATS is a fully funded 12-week research program pairing rising talent with top mentors in AI alignment, interpretability, security, and governance. Apply for the next cohort at https://matsprogram.org/s26-tcr

    Tasklet:

    Tasklet is an AI agent that automates your work 24/7; just describe what you want in plain English and it gets the job done. Try it for free and use code COGREV for 50% off your first month at https://tasklet.ai

    CHAPTERS:

    (00:00) About the Episode

    (03:02) Snowflake 101 and AI

    (09:25) Text-to-SQL and semantics

    (19:10) RAG, embeddings and models (Part 1)

    (19:17) Sponsors: MongoDB | Serval

    (21:02) RAG, embeddings and models (Part 2)

    (32:23) Bringing models to data (Part 1)

    (32:29) Sponsors: MATS | Tasklet

    (35:29) Bringing models to data (Part 2)

    (51:14) Designing enterprise AI agents

    (58:35) Trust, governance and guardrails

    (01:07:14) Agents and future work

    (01:15:33) Platforms, competition and value

    (01:26:04) Enterprise models and outlook

    (01:40:00) Outro

    PRODUCED BY:

    https://aipodcast.ing
  • "The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis

    AMA Part 1: Is Claude Code AGI? Are we in a bubble? Plus Live Player Analysis

    09/1/2026 | 1h 54 mins.
    In this AMA episode, Nathan gives an update on his son Ernie’s cancer treatment and how frontier AI models are helping him navigate complex medical decisions. PSA for AI builders: Interested in alignment, governance, or AI safety? Learn more about the MATS Summer 2026 Fellowship and submit your name to be notified when applications open: https://matsprogram.org/s26-tcr. He reflects on whether Claude Opus 4.5 and Claude Code amount to AGI-level coding, sharing stories of hospital vibe coding apps for his family. You’ll hear his framework for getting real value from Gemini 3, Claude, and GPT 5.2 Pro, plus his take on AI bubbles, Chinese models, chip controls, and who the true live players are in today’s AI race.

    Sponsors:

    MongoDB:
    Tired of database limitations and architectures that break when you scale? MongoDB is the database built for developers, by developers—ACID compliant, enterprise-ready, and fluent in AI—so you can start building faster at https://mongodb.com/build

    Framer:
    Framer is an enterprise-grade website builder that lets business teams design, launch, and optimize their.com with AI-powered wireframing, real-time collaboration, and built-in analytics. Start building for free and get 30% off a Framer Pro annual plan at https://framer.com/cognitive

    Tasklet:
    Tasklet is an AI agent that automates your work 24/7; just describe what you want in plain English and it gets the job done. Try it for free and use code COGREV for 50% off your first month at https://tasklet.ai

    CHAPTERS:

    (00:00) AMA intro format

    (00:22) Ernie health update

    (09:24) Claude 4.5 question (Part 1)

    (09:29) Sponsors: MongoDB | Framer

    (11:21) Claude 4.5 question (Part 2)

    (13:21) Using AI for cancer

    (19:48) AI value and skill

    (22:10) Holiday coding projects (Part 1)

    (22:15) Sponsor: Tasklet

    (23:27) Holiday coding projects (Part 2)

    (28:01) Claude code workflow

    (32:03) Is Claude 4.5 AGI

    (36:04) AI bubble or not

    (41:22) VC froth examples

    (46:09) Chinese models comparison

    (55:29) H200 exports to China

    (01:03:40) Google DeepMind strengths

    (01:11:55) OpenAI strategy outlook

    (01:22:51) Anthropic culture and strategy

    (01:36:17) XAI promise and risks

    (01:48:20) Meta and Microsoft

    (01:52:29) Part two preview

    (01:53:39) Outro

    PRODUCED BY:

    https://aipodcast.ing

    SOCIAL LINKS:

    Website: https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai

    Twitter (Podcast): https://x.com/cogrev_podcast

    Twitter (Nathan): https://x.com/labenz

    LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/nathanlabenz/

    Youtube: https://youtube.com/@CognitiveRevolutionPodcast

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/de/podcast/the-cognitive-revolution-ai-builders-researchers-and/id1669813431

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6yHyok3M3BjqzR0VB5MSyk

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About "The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis

A biweekly podcast where hosts Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg interview the builders on the edge of AI and explore the dramatic shift it will unlock in the coming years. The Cognitive Revolution is part of the Turpentine podcast network. To learn more: turpentine.co
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