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#235: OpenAI-Hugging Face Hack Involved 100s of Agents, Bill Gates Now Pessimistic on Jobs, Nvidia Doubles Revenue & Anthropic Targets “$30 Trillion” TAM
01/09/2026 | 1h 34 mins.OpenAI's Hugging Face hack keeps getting stranger; new investigations show autonomous agents that coordinated, deceived, and pursued their goal at almost any cost. Paul Roetzer and Mike Kaput break down what it means for the models coming next. They also cover Bill Gates reversing his stance on AI and jobs, Nvidia doubling revenue and buying Hugging Face, Anthropic's $30 trillion revenue pitch and its court win, McKinsey's 2026 State of AI, and more in the rapid-fire section.
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Timestamps:
00:00:00 — Intro
00:04:53 — The Wild Truth About OpenAI’s Hugging Face Hack Comes Out
00:31:08 — Bill Gates Changes His Mind on AI and Jobs
00:39:22 — Nvidia Doubles Revenue and Agrees to Buy Hugging Face
00:50:32 — Anthropic Sees a $30 Trillion Revenue Opportunity
00:54:24 — Judge Blocks Government’s Anthropic Blacklisting
00:56:31 — Controversy Over Legendary Investor’s AI-Written Op-Ed
01:03:11 — McKinsey Maps the State of AI in 2026
01:06:26 — Niall Ferguson Sees a Sci-Fi AI Future
01:12:12 — Americans Back Government Action on AI Disruption
01:18:41 — AI Use Case Spotlight
01:26:59 — AI Product and Funding Updates
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Enroll in our AI Academy- For twenty years, the percentage of time a B2B sales rep spends actually talking to customers has barely moved. Jon Dick, chief customer officer at HubSpot, thinks AI is the first thing that genuinely breaks that constraint, and he has three years of rebuilding to point to.
In this AI Transformations episode, Jon takes Mike Kaput through HubSpot's agentic go-to-market model: the AEO strategy built for answer engines, the AI SDR handling most website chats, the assistant that moved win rate, and the org change that put every AI engineer under one leader.
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Timestamps:00:00:00 — Intro
00:03:36 — Meet Jon Dick
00:05:13 — What HubSpot was trying to solve
00:08:27 — How the transformation got started and where it stands today
00:11:48 — Beyond individual use cases: demand creation and AEO
00:15:49 — What's HubSpot native, and how they pick models
00:18:36 — What had to change organizationally
00:22:10 — Why centralizing beat the pod model
00:24:39 — What got messier along the way
00:25:46 — Results across the board
00:28:35 — Why HubSpot's go-to-market context is the advantage
00:30:19 — Advice for leaders earlier in the journey
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Enroll in our AI Academy #233: OpenAI Pauses Some AI Training, Anthropic Controversy, New State Opposition to Data Centers & AI Job Loss Among Young Workers
25/08/2026 | 1h 27 mins.OpenAI paused reinforcement learning on its most advanced models over cybersecurity concerns, saying its next model may cross a critical capability threshold. Paul's read: the labs aren't removing dangerous behaviors, they're suppressing them and suppressed behaviors can come back.
Also this week: a very public argument over Anthropic's direction as it heads toward a possible $2 trillion IPO, Pennsylvania's crackdown on data centers, Nvidia's Ohio AI factory play, new Pew data on young Americans souring on AI, and humanoid robots in Beijing breaking records set by Usain Bolt.
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Timestamps:
00:00:00 — Intro
00:06:44 — OpenAI Pauses Some Frontier AI Training Due to Cybersecurity Concerns
00:19:25 — Debate Over Anthropic Intensifies Ahead of IPO
00:33:43 — Pennsylvania Leads Increasing State Opposition to Data Centers
00:48:19 — Jensen's AI Factory Manifesto
00:54:15 — AI Job Loss Hits Young Adults
00:58:53 — Andrew Yang Pushes for Direct Payments to Americans, Paid for by AI
01:01:39 — OpenAI and Anthropic Rethink Data Retention
01:04:48 — Chinese Robots Break Human World Records
01:09:57 — AI Use Case Spotlight
01:18:45 — AI Product and Funding Updates
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Enroll in our AI Academy#232: Claude Watermarking, AI’s Environmental Impact, OpenAI Talent Drama & Anthropic’s Hidden Advisor
18/08/2026 | 1h 23 mins.Claude will now watermark the content it generates, and the fight over what that means for writing, schoolwork, and "AI plagiarism" is only starting. Paul and Mike unpack the watermarking news, then move through AI's environmental reckoning, OpenAI's very public friction with the White House, Anthropic's march toward a record IPO, Grok 4.6's return to the frontier, and an AI agent that hacked a gym website while trying to book a class.
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Timestamps:
00:00:00 — Intro
00:07:04 — Claude Will Now Start Marking AI-Generated Content
00:22:41 — AI's Environmental Reckoning
00:35:58 — Drama from the White House Over OpenAI Hire
00:45:25 — Anthropic's Hidden Advisor
00:50:04 — Sanders Threatens an AI Pause
00:55:30 — xAI Releases Grok 4.6
00:58:30 — More on Google's AI Leadership Reshuffle
01:02:54 — Revisiting the Responsible AI Manifesto
01:08:09 — AI Agent Hacks a Gym Website
01:12:10 — AI Use Case Spotlight
01:19:14 — AI Product and Funding Updates
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Enroll in our AI Academy- Zapier's Chief Marketing and AI Transformation Officer Dan Slagen called a "code red" on his own marketing team, not because they were behind, but because he saw the bar moving from using AI to building with it.
In this AI Transformations episode, Slagen tells Mike Kaput how Zapier moved from AI adoption to AI-native work: three tiers of builders, an AI-powered "marketing brain," the "lossless marketing" idea behind it, and why working in public mattered more than any single tool.
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Timestamps:
00:00:00 — Intro
00:03:50 — Who Dan Slagen is and why Zapier's marketing story matters
00:06:12 — The February “code red”: what changed and why Dan called it
00:10:53 — How the team actually adopted AI
00:12:05 — Building Zapier's AI-powered marketing brain and “lossless marketing”
00:15:52 — Bringing in agentic expertise and charting the steps
00:21:25 — The behavioral side: how people interact with the machines
00:23:25 — How the average marketer connects to the central brain
00:26:31 — Impacts and benefits
00:30:30 — Where it got harder or messier than expected
00:32:11 — Dan's advice for leaders who are behind
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