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Neil and Eric react to the report that Chinese institutions turned 171 million public X posts into a million-account digital twin of the American electorate — and are testing political messages on it. They unpack the marketing angle behind cognitive-domain warfare, why the data asymmetry between open and closed internets matters, the Paul Graham chart showing LinkedIn users adding AI and deleting DEI from their profiles, and why following trends is usually the losing move. A sobering look at what happens when audience modeling gets weaponized.
Key takeaways◾Audience modeling at nation-state scale is here — and it's a marketing system◾Open platforms hand their behavioral data to anyone, including adversaries◾Profile trends follow incentives: AI in, DEI out
Chapters00:00 China's AI models of American voters02:04 Privacy and platform rules04:06 The LinkedIn graph: AI in, DEI out07:12 Think for yourself, don't chase trends - Growth Newsletter: https://levelingup.beehiiv.com/subscribe
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Neil and Eric dig into the two lessons Silicon Valley keeps relearning every decade, straight from Ben Thompson's conversation with Patrick O'Shaughnessy: consumers don't want to pay for software, and they don't care about being productive. They trace the pattern from Dropbox's forced pivot to B2B through to OpenAI replaying the same story at 100x scale, why advertising was always the endgame for ChatGPT, whether the SaaSpocalypse is real, and what the future of marketing looks like when AI knows your smartest moments. A sharp episode on where the money in software actually comes from.
Key takeaways◾Consumers won't pay for software — advertising is the consumer endgame◾SaaS isn't dying, it's consolidating into B2B◾The next marketing frontier is reaching people in their smart moments
Chapters00:00 The 2 lessons Silicon Valley relearns00:21 Ads over subscriptions: Dropbox to OpenAI03:32 SaaS isn't dying, it's going B2B05:55 Bubble or buildout?07:32 AI's long-term explosion11:32 Marketing in smart moments - Growth Newsletter: https://levelingup.beehiiv.com/subscribe
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It starts with a message Eric got about a team member's wife being hit by a car, and turns into the clearest thing either of them has said about keeping good people. Neil lays out how he thinks about founder retention after an acquisition, they debate what Single Brain should actually be, and Eric closes with the GrokBot marketing playbook.
Key takeawaysâ—¾How you behave in someone's worst week is the retention strategy. Everything else is a policy document.â—¾Brand recognition you already have is worth more than the product name you are attached to.â—¾Multifaceted marketing wins now: shipping fast, engaging in public, DMing influencers and bundling.
Chapters00:00 Looking After Your People02:20 Founder Retention Matters05:31 Building Single Brain08:56 GrokBot Marketing Playbook - Growth Newsletter: https://levelingup.beehiiv.com/subscribe
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Neil asks Eric to name the two things he is actually doing for the rest of 2026, and the answer is less about tools than you would expect. Along the way they share their own survey of 100 companies on AI agent adoption, and the numbers are far below the hype. Neil also gives away the specific tactic he is using to get cited by ChatGPT and Gemini.
Key takeawaysâ—¾Of 100 companies surveyed, only 17 use AI agents in marketing at all, and just 3.5% of their marketing staff.â—¾The fastest route into AI answers is getting into the same articles that already cite your competitors.â—¾Shipping constantly beats one big launch. Staying top of mind is the strategy.
Chapters00:00 Marketing and Hiring Priorities02:55 What Counts as an Agent06:20 2026 Focus Areas10:43 Europe and Service Expansion Reddit wiped out of ChatGPT, what agencies are really worth, & the new services playbook
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Reddit's citations in ChatGPT have collapsed to almost nothing, and so have the review sites. Eric pulls up the PromptWatch data live and Neil reads what it means for anyone who built a strategy on those placements. Then they turn to the money side: how to underwrite a deal, what a creative agency is really worth, and what Sequoia's 'services are the new software' thesis does to agency valuations.
Key takeawaysâ—¾Reddit and the big review sites have been almost entirely cut out of ChatGPT's citations.â—¾The marketer's job is shifting from ranking pages to being the source an AI quotes.â—¾Founder retention is not one structure. Name which model each founder is actually in before you buy.
Chapters00:00 Reddit’s Decline01:57 The Marketer’s Shift04:14 Deal Underwriting Logic07:36 Valuing Creative Agencies12:56 M&A Patience Pays18:01 Eric's Agency M&A Thesis
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