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    The Horror in What You Don’t See—How Sound and Rhythm Build Suspense in 'Undertone'

    14/03/2026 | 39 mins.
    In this episode, No Film School host GG Hawkins speaks with editor Sonny Atkins about shaping fear through sound, rhythm, and restraint in the horror feature Undertone. Atkins breaks down how the film’s audio-first concept influenced everything from the script to the cut, why long pauses and musical timing can heighten dread, and how a deeply personal story about grief and caregiving evolved through the editorial process. He also shares practical insights into working scrappy on a low-budget feature, using Premiere Pro’s Productions workflow, speech-to-text, temp sound design, and test screenings to refine both story and suspense.

    In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guest Sonny Atkins discuss...


    How Undertone began as an audio-driven concept and why that immediately stood out in the script


    Why sound design became central to the edit, not just an atmospheric layer


    The challenge of building horror around what the audience hears instead of what they see


    How Ian Tuason’s personal experience with caregiving and grief shaped the emotional core of the film


    Discovering story solutions in post, including the addition of a saved voicemail from the protagonist’s mother


    Creating distinct sonic and visual worlds between the downstairs living space and the mother’s upstairs room


    What it took to make a low-budget Canadian horror feature feel polished and cinematic


    Why Atkins cut his first assembly extremely short, then built the film back up from its essential skeleton


    How rhythm, blank space, and even drum rudiments became part of the team’s language for suspense


    Using Premiere Pro’s Productions workflow to keep a feature edit organized and responsive


    How speech-to-text helped manage ADR, offscreen dialogue, and hundreds of audio files


    Why editors should mock up sound ideas early for test screenings instead of waiting for the final sound team


    How Frame.io helped organize notes with timecode-based feedback


    Why humor can be an important release valve inside horror


    Career advice on longevity, mentorship, process, and closing the gap between taste and ability

    Memorable Quotes:


    “Because in this film, sound isn't just part of the atmosphere, it's the engine of the story.”


    “A lot of it's about rhythm and where to leave blank space, and that kind of stuff.”


    “The people who make it in this business are the people who don't quit. It's a longevity game.”


    “If your focus is really just not about making the work really good and working a lot, you can sort of inoculate yourself against having your heart broken over and over again.”

    Guests:


    Sonny Atkins (IMDb)

    Resources:


    Undertone on IMDb


    The Gap by Ira Glass


    Taylor Mason on editing Him for No Film School

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    Director Amy Wang Reveals the Job That Keeps Filmmakers Working After Film School

    13/03/2026 | 45 mins.
    Writer-director Amy Wang joins the No Film School podcast to discuss her debut feature, Slanted, and the long road from film school to theatrical release. In conversation with GG Hawkins, Wang reflects on leaving Australia for AFI, building a creative community in Los Angeles, learning to write as a practical path to survival in the industry, and what happened after Slanted premiered at SXSW 2025, won the Grand Jury Prize, and eventually landed distribution ahead of its 2026 theatrical release.

    In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guest Amy Wang discuss...


    How Fight Club inspired Wang to pursue filmmaking as a teenager in Sydney


    Why she left Australia for AFI and what it was like arriving in Los Angeles as an international student


    The real value of film school, especially for community-building and dedicated creative time


    Why learning to write became the key to sustaining a filmmaking career after graduation


    How a Black List script helped open doors in Hollywood


    The emotional and personal origins of Slanted


    Why body horror and comedy became the right form for exploring race, identity, and belonging


    How Slanted went from a logline to a financed feature


    What production and post looked like on a tight timeline before SXSW


    What it felt like to premiere at SXSW, hear audience reactions, and unexpectedly win the Grand Jury Prize


    The reality of selling an indie film in today’s market, even after major festival recognition


    What Wang learned from working with Bleecker Street on the theatrical release


    Details about her next feature, Crescendo, set in the world of competitive piano

    Memorable Quotes:


    “If you don't come from money, if you don't have a famous uncle and you don't want to work at Starbucks for the next three to four years after you graduate, you need to learn how to write.” (12:48)


    “You can't let the highs be too high and you can't let the lows be too low.” (16:31)


    “It doesn't matter what I do, it doesn't matter who I am, how I speak, my personality is like, what my thoughts or how intelligent I am, people will always see my face first.” (19:08)


    “As long as you keep going, as long as you keep learning and changing and growing, I think you don't need to be the best throughout your life to be able to have a career in this industry.” (40:56)

    Guests:


    Amy Wang

    Resources:


    Slanted official film page


    Applying for Your O-1 Visa to Work in Film and TV

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    The Best Distillation of Filmmaking: An A24 Edit Case Study

    06/03/2026 | 38 mins.
    In this episode, GG Hawkins speaks with editor Harrison Atkins about shaping A24’s How to Make a Killing with director John Patton Ford. Atkins breaks down his path into editing, his holistic “total filmmaker” approach to storytelling, and the editorial challenges of balancing dark comedy, violence, voiceover, and audience empathy around a morally compromised protagonist. The conversation also explores the realities of studio post-production, from long edit timelines and test screenings to cutting in Adobe Premiere’s Productions workflow while collaborating with a London-based post team more accustomed to Avid.

    In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guest Harrison Atkins discuss...


    How Harrison Atkins found his way into editing through directing and making his own films


    Why he thinks of editing as a holistic, dramaturgical part of filmmaking rather than a purely technical role


    Reuniting with director John Patton Ford after Emily the Criminal


    What drew him to the multi-tonal mix of crime, satire, dark comedy, and violence in How to Make a Killing


    How voiceover created both opportunity and endless editorial possibilities in the cut


    The difference between an indie sprint like Emily the Criminal and the extended timeline of a studio feature


    How test screenings and audience response helped refine comedy, pacing, and emotional momentum


    Why the first reel was crucial to getting audiences aligned with a charismatic but morally gray lead


    The editorial challenge of shaping an underdog around Glenn Powell’s natural confidence and charm


    How Premiere’s Productions workflow supported a collaborative feature edit with multiple people working simultaneously


    What it was like cutting the film in London with assistant editors adapting from an Avid-heavy post environment


    How temporary VFX comps in After Effects and Photoshop helped solve story and joke-building problems inside the edit


    Harrison’s philosophy of leadership, collaboration, intuition, and staying present as both an editor and director


    His advice to emerging filmmakers: fail boldly, work small if necessary, and keep making things instead of waiting for permission

    Memorable Quotes:


    “I never really considered myself an editor. I still kind of weirdly don't.” (01:19)


    “The calendar is really a myth.” (06:59)


    “The difference between a joke that lands and one that doesn't is often microscopic.” (13:30)


    “Perfection is the enemy of good.” (33:50)

    Guests:


    Harrison Atkins

    Resources:


    How to Make a Killing


    Emily the Criminal


    Total Filmmaker by Jerry Lewis

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    What These DPs Used Instead of Stills to Land Their Sundance Films

    26/02/2026 | 57 mins.
    Recorded live at the 2026 Sundance Film Festival in Park City, this annual Director of Photography Roundtable features No Film School’s GG Hawkins in conversation with cinematographers Lidia Nikonova, Sam Levy, and Maria Herrera. The group discusses their unconventional paths into cinematography—from orchestras and photojournalism to weddings and radio DJing—how they landed their Sundance projects, and why connection, rhythm, and trust matter more than flashy lookbooks. They also break down the tools they used to communicate vision, navigate long dialogue scenes, and adapt to technical and emotional challenges on set.

    In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guests discuss…


    Shooting at the 2026 Sundance Film Festival and hosting at the BraveMaker house


    Maria Herrera’s transition from music to cinematography and operating handheld for emotionally intense performances


    Sam Levy’s mentorship under Harris Savides and how that shaped his approach to narrative filmmaking


    Lidia Nikonova’s journey from photojournalism and the Canon EOS 5D Mark II to AFI and shooting narrative features


    How each DP landed their Sundance projects through relationships, cold emails, and creative chemistry


    When to bring visual references to a director meeting—and when to just listen


    Using tools like Figma to build collaborative lookbooks and visual worlds


    Why dialogue rhythm and musicality influence cinematography choices


    Shooting on 35mm with an Arricam ST versus digital on the ARRI Alexa 35


    Working with vintage Super Baltar lenses (famously used on The Godfather) for a modern crime thriller


    Referencing L'Argent by Robert Bresson for insert shots and cinematic economy


    How to approach 10+ page dialogue scenes without losing visual intention


    The value of shooting weddings and low-budget projects to build craft and confidence


    Advice for emerging cinematographers: show up early, trust your vision, and get your reps in

    Memorable Quotes:


    “This child will never play a musical instrument ever in her life.”


    “If you have good dialogues, it's like, okay, here's something.”


    “Just connect with her.”


    “Show up at least one hour early… and do not use your phone on set.”

    Guests:


    Lidia Nikonova


    Sam Levy


    Maria Herrera

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    ‘Send Help’ Producer Zainab Azizi’s Studio Filmmaking Playbook

    20/02/2026 | 40 mins.
    Producer Zainab Azizi joins GG Hawkins to break down her journey from agency mailroom to President of Raimi Productions and producing studio features like Send Help. Azizi shares how she develops original ideas, packages talent, protects projects through shifting studio mandates, and leads with a collaborative producing style. She also discusses mentoring female producers, balancing creative and financial realities in modern filmmaking, and why theatrical success for original films still matters.

    In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guest Zainab Azizi discuss...


    How Send Help evolved from a logline in 2019 to a theatrical release


    Moving the project from Columbia Pictures to 20th and navigating studio mandate shifts


    Why Sam Raimi was essential to directing the film—and how storyboards helped secure studio confidence


    Packaging as a producer: attaching directors and actors through agency relationships


    Casting Rachel McAdams and Dylan O’Brien and building chemistry into the film’s core dynamic


    The tension between “social media value” and creative talent in casting decisions


    What Azizi learned in the WME mailroom and how agencies really function behind the scenes


    Different types of producers (creative, line, financing, studio producers) and protecting the “PGA” credit


    Her collaborative leadership style and the “three solutions for every problem” rule


    Mentorship, promoting female producers, and fostering more women-led sets


    Why theatrical releases for original films still matter in 2026


    Developing a Seshu Hayakawa biopic and why his story feels urgent today


    The importance of sacrifice, networking, and embracing rejection early in your career

    Memorable Quotes:


    “My job is to find three solutions for every problem.”


    “Rejection is just redirection. We celebrate rejections.”


    “If it scares you, it means you’re headed the right direction.”


    “You have to put yourself out there.”

    Guests:


    Zainab Azizi – President of Raimi Productions and producer of Send Help

    Resources:


    LaBelle Foundation (for adopting Cactus the foster puppy)


    Producers Guild of America (PGA)


    Producers United

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About The No Film School Podcast

A podcast about how to build a career in filmmaking. No Film School shares the latest opportunities and trends for anyone working in film and TV. We break news on cameras, lighting, and apps. We interview leaders in screenwriting, directing, cinematography, editing, and producing. And we answer your questions! We are dedicated to sharing knowledge with filmmakers around the globe, “no film school” required.
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