Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

A second grade teacher at Abundant Life Christian School in Madison, Wisconsin calls 911 at 10:57 am to report an active shooter inside a study hall classroom at the private Christian school. Inside the study hall class, students from several different grades dive for cover as 15-year-old Natalie "Samantha" Rupnow, is firing a 9mm handgun around the class. She is a student at the school and commits suicide before law enforcement breaches the building. No shots are exchanged. Madison Police Chief Shon Barnes says identifying a motive is a top priority, but at this stage of the investigation it appears the motive was a combination of factors. A reported manifesto has been found, but Barnes says they have not been able to verify its authenticity. Police say Rupnow has been in texting with a 20 year old Carlsbad,California man, planning his own mass attack. After police discovered the message Alexander Paffendorf was interviewed by the FBI where he admitted “that he told Rupnow that he would arm himself with explosives and a gun and that he would target a government building." No specific building was named. A California judge has issued a restraining order under California’s gun red flag law. The order requires Paffendorf to turn in his guns and ammunition to police within 48 hours. Neighbors say police entered his home carrying out a big "black gun box." Joining Nancy Grace today: Philip Dubé - Former Court-Appointed Counsel, Los Angeles County Public Defenders: Criminal & Constitutional Law, Forensics & Mental Health Advocacy Angela Arnold - Psychiatrist, Atlanta GA, AngelaArnoldMD.com, Expert in the Treatment of Pregnant/Postpartum Women, Former Assistant Professor of Psychiatry, Obstetrics and Gynecology: Emory University, Former Medical Director of The Psychiatric Ob-Gyn Clinic at Grady Memorial Hospital, Voted My Buckhead’s Best Psychiatric Practice of 2022, 2023 and 2024. Robin Dreeke - Behavior Expert & Former FBI Special Agent / Chief of the FBI Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program, Author:"Sizing People Up: A Veteran FBI Agents Manual for Behavior Prediction" , "Unbreakable Alliances: A Spy Recruiter's Authoritative Guide to Cultivating Powerful and Lasting Connections" being released and "Sizing People Up: A Veteran FBI Agents Maual for Behavior Prediction" all of his books available on Amazon, peopleformula.com, Twitter: @rdreeke Katherine Schweit - Creator of the FBI's Active Shooter Program, Former Chicago prosecutor and career FBI special agent; authored "Stop the Killing; How to End the Mass Shooting Crisis" and "How to Talk About Guns to Anyone"; website: https://www.katherineschweit.com/ Dr. Eric Eason - Board Certified Forensic Pathologist, consultant, Instagram: @eric_a_eason, Facebook: Eric August Eason, LinkedIn: Eric Eason, MD Bria Jones - Reporter, Fox 6 Milwaukee Twitter: @BriaJonesTV Facebook: Bria Jones TV See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Man pleas down vehicular manslaughter case, will not serve any jail time. School bomb threat discovered to be a tasty treat. For more crime and justice news go to crimeonline.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Breaking news from the new Crime Alert Hourly Update podcast. The CrimeOnline team delivers hourly updates on breaking crime news as it happens throughout the day! Follow now on your favorite podcast app: https://link.podtrac.com/CrimeAlertHourlyUpdate 15-year-old Natalie "Samantha" Rupnow is named the shooter in the deadly Wisconsin school shooting. New details emerge about her home life and the days leading up to the shooting. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Luigi Mangione has been indicted on first-degree murder in furtherance of terrorism. He is also charged with two counts of murder in the second degree, with one of those counts also denoting Mangione murder of CEO Brian Thompson as an act of terrorism. Mangione's family has yet to visit since his arrest, but he has had several meetings with his defense team that now includes high-profile attorney, Karen Friedman- Agnifilo. Police questioned Mangione's mom the day before he was captured. She told officers that the shooting 'might be something that she could see him doing.' JOINING NANCY GRACE TODAY: Matt Mangino - Attorney, Former District Attorney (Lawrence County), Author: "The Executioner's Toll: The Crimes, Arrests, Trials, Appeals, Last Meals, Final Words and Executions of 46 Persons in the United States" Dr. Bethany Marshall - Psychoanalyst, Author: "Deal Breaker," featured in hit show: "Paris in Love" on Peacock www.drbethanymarshall.com/ , Instagram & TikTok: drbethanymarshall, Twitter: @DrBethanyLive Tom Smith - Former NYPD Detective, former member FBI/NYPD Joint Terrorism Task Force. Co-Host of the GOLD SHIELDS Podcast, https://thegoldshieldshow.com, FB & Instagram: @thegoldshieldshow Sheryl McCollum - Cold Case Investigative Research Institute Founder, ColdCaseCrimes.org, Host: Zone 7, Twitter: @ColdCaseTips Joseph Scott Morgan - Professor of Forensics: Jacksonville State University, Author, "Blood Beneath My Feet", Host: "Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan", @JoScottForensic Christina Aguayo - National News Anchor, Salem News Channel, website: www.ChristinaAguayoNews.Com, Facebook: @ChristinaAguayoNews, Instagram: @Christina.AguayoNews See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.