The Art Of Ward

Shakur Stevenson sits down with Andre Ward on THE ART OF WARD for the third time, and it might be the most unfiltered one yet. Fresh off selling out Madison Square Garden and turning Teofimo Lopez into a one-sided beatdown, the four-division world champ breaks down how he played that fight a thousand times in his head before the first bell, why he’s suddenly boxing’s most wanted (and most clout-chased) name, and the real story behind walking away from his WBC belt.

Shakur goes deep on the Devin Haney standoff and the 144 vs 147 weight tug-of-war, fires back at Bill Haney’s “easy work” claim, sizes up Conor Benn, and guarantees he’d stop any UFC crossover that dares step in the ring, like an Ilia Topuria. He and Dre get into the boxing brain that separates the elite, studying tape vs trusting instincts, and the young fighters and managers Shakur is now building behind the scenes.

Then it gets personal: why fame is a “cold game,” the Floyd Mayweather obsession that genuinely scares him, the J Prince lessons on teaching a man to fish, the O’Shaquie Foster beef, and what going out on top actually looks like.
0:00 - Intro & Sparring Session (Andre Ward & Shakur Stevenson)3:32 - Breaking Down the Teofimo Lopez Fight5:28 - Sold Out MSG & Handling the Pressure6:40 - “I Was Born for This” | Performing Under Bright Lights8:20 - Corner Advice & Almost Stopping Teo10:29 - The Post-Fight High | A Month to Come Down11:44 - Appreciating Teofimo for Making the Fight12:02 - Making Big Fights Happen Directly (Like Bud & Crawford)12:55 - Why Everyone Wants to Fight Shakur Now14:09 - Shakur’s Boxing Brain & Future in Broadcasting15:17 - The Imagination in the Gym | Envisioning Every Opponent17:15 - Having a Boxing Mind vs. Just Being Talented17:54 - Watching Film & Learning from Floyd19:11 - AD BREAK22:16 - The WBC Stripping Him of His Belt26:23 - The Devin Haney Fight | Weight Negotiations & Business Talk29:28 - Could Haney vs. Stevenson Actually Get Made?31:47 - Taking Callouts Less Personally | It’s Business Now34:06 - Conor Benn Situation | What Happened?34:41 - Assessing Conor Benn as a Fighter36:49 - Would Shakur Do a UFC Crossover Fight? Ilia Topuria40:39 - Does Shakur Like Being Famous? (Honest Answer)45:19 - The J. Prince Relationship | A Real Mentor47:11 - Managing Fighters50:33 - How Would You Beat Andre Ward?51:48 - How Would You Fight Bud Crawford?52:03 - Floyd Mayweather vs. Sugar Ray Robinson GOAT Debate54:09 - The State of Boxing Today55:20 - Biggest Lesson from 9 Years as a Pro55:47 - What Does the Rest of Shakur’s Career Look Like?56:31 - Thoughts on Adrien Broner’s Current Lifestyle58:39 - Floyd Mayweather’s Money Situation & Can’t-Let-Go of Boxing1:02:42 - Errol Spence Is Back | Thoughts on Spence vs. Tszyu1:03:45 - Shakur’s Message to O’Shaquie Foster1:06:07 - “I Don’t Run” | On Character & Integrity1:07:39 - Going Out on Top | Comparing Ward & Crawford’s Retirements1:11:21 - Outro
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Picking up where Part 1 left off, Virgil and Andre go all the way through the pro career. The 2004 Staples Center debut. The knockdown by Darnell Boone that nearly cost him an HBO deal. The frantic red-eye to Germany to lock in the Super Six tournament and opening the bracket against Mikkel Kessler at home, plus the collision course with Andre Dirrell that Bumper kept saying wouldn’t happen — and the moment Andre’s mind shifted on his own friend. Skipping Lucian Bute, beating Chad Dawson, and the two-year lawsuit that almost derailed everything.

Then the Kovalev story like it’s never been told. Virgil admits he was a fan of Sergey Kovalev before him and Dre ever fought. The knee that swelled to three times its size in training camp and ultimately getting it drained two hours before he walked to the ring. Getting up off the canvas in Round 2 and closing like a champion, and the decision the critics still argue about — and Andre’s full response to all of it.

And then, for the first time on tape, Andre reveals he knew going into the second Kovalev fight that it was his last fight — and never told Virgil. The phone call from Jack London Square the night before he announced his retirement. Virgil’s response, the investment lessons, the jewelry-vs-houses speech, and why Virgil refuses to be the old coach on a stump watching one of his fighters take brain damage for a paycheck.

Part 2 of 2. If you missed Part 1, go back and watch the origin story.
0:00 – Intro: From the Streets to the Pro Game1:40 – The Super Six Tournament & Moving to 168 lbs3:34 – Facing Mikkel Kessler: Setting the Tone5:22 – Patterns of Success: The Journey & God’s Plan6:23 – Financial Wisdom & Having an Exit Strategy13:45 – Virgil’s Training Philosophy & Locker Room Rules21:20 – Keeping Fighters Focused & Blocking Distractions23:00 – Cleaning Out Super Middleweight & Moving to 17525:20 – Preparing for Sergey Kovalev: The 3-Fight Plan27:40 – Knee Injury & Doubt Before the Kovalev Fight29:43 – Walking to the Ring: Confidence Despite the Injury30:07 – The Knockdown & Corner Adjustments vs. Kovalev32:06 – Breaking Down the Kovalev Win & Critics34:04 – The Rematch & Kovalev’s Decline42:32 – Ward’s Retirement Decision44:13 – Knowing When It’s Over: The Mindset of Retiring on Top46:22 – Financial Lessons for Young Fighters49:18 – The Danger of Eroding Skills & Spending Your Prime51:38 – Retiring When You’ve Proven Everything55:06 – Missing the Gym & Staying Away After Retirement
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For the first time ever, the man behind Andre Ward’s undefeated career and 2004 Olympic Gold sits down on THE ART OF WARD... and they go all the way back.

Virgil Hunter, 2011 Boxing Writers Association Trainer of the Year, pulls up for Part 1 of a two-part conversation 32 years in the making.

This isn’t just a boxing conversation. This is the full story.

The day a 10-year-old Andre walked into US Karate & Boxing in Hayward and locked eyes with a quietly depressed Virgil, still grieving the loss of his first prospect. Frank Ward’s simple request: “teach my son how to hit and not get hit.” The years Andre and his brother Jonathan lived with Virgil and his wife. The crack era in Oakland that pulled Andre into the streets — selling rocks two blocks from the apartment where his own mother was using. The psychology Virgil used to pull him back: the guilt-trip phone call, the jailhouse intervention, the Hennessy bottle quietly pulled from Andre’s bag in Las Vegas. The James Prince connection. Marrying Tiffney young against everyone’s advice. Losing his father in 2002. And the 2004 Olympic Gold in Athens and how Virgil had to move mountains to be there ringside.
00:00 - Intro & Welcome Hall of Fame trainer, Virgil Hunter, to The Art of Ward02:30 - The First Meeting & Frank Ward’s Request06:02 - Virgil’s Depression & Why That Day Was Spiritual06:47 - Building a Foundation Before the Temptations08:30 - Andre & His Brother Move In With Virgil & His Wife10:30 - Frank Ward, Andre’s Mom & The Mother Wound14:00 - Battle Testing With Donaire & The First Fights16:00 - The Silver Gloves Nationals & Curtis Stevens20:00 - Sparring Pros at 13 & The Strength Behind It21:11 - The Difference Between Andre & His Brother21:57 - Drive, Tenacity & Being a Student of The Game24:30 - The Junior Olympics & When The Streets Started Calling27:13 - The Oakland Mystique & Virgil’s Focus Shifts29:39 - The Psychology: Guilt Trips, Interventions & The Hennessy Bottle32:06 - Can You Make A Great Without Sacrifice?33:16 - Structure Is The Foundation of Greatness35:33 - His Mother’s Relapse & Selling Dope Two Blocks Away37:00 - The Prayers Working & Virgil’s Street Intelligence39:41 - Structure Kept Him From Crossing The Line42:47 - Virgil’s Diary Entry & The Full Prophecy44:50 - Washington, Tiffney & Marrying Young Against Everyone’s Advice49:04 - James Prince Enters The Picture52:17 - “He’ll Win Us A Gold Medal”: The Guarantee To J Prince53:22 - Exposed To The Life: Floyd, Roy & Dre Losing His Father58:00 - Surrendering & Locking In For The Olympics01:00:10 - “You Don’t Think I Can Get You To Athens?“: The Faith Moment01:02:35 - Front Row Tickets & God Paying For The Whole Trip01:08:13 - The Last American Male Olympic Gold & USA Boxing’s Problem01:11:24 - It Takes A Team & No Great Man Stands Alone01:13:34 - Body Language, Technical Ability & What Wins At The Highest Level01:16:46 - The Decision That Shook Everything Up
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14 years later, Carl ‘The Cobra’ Froch sits down face-to-face with Andre Ward. The 2023 Hall of Famer, 4-time super middleweight world champion, and one of the most fearless personalities in boxing pulls up to THE ART OF WARD for a conversation almost nobody thought would ever happen.

Froch walks Andre through the full story. From a skinny kid in Nottingham getting flattened on a rugby pitch, to walking back into a boxing gym at 19, to becoming a four-time world champion at super middleweight. He gets into the Pascal war, the Jermain Taylor stoppage with torn ankle ligaments and a scratched cornea three weeks out, the Lucian Bute destruction, the controversial first Groves fight he openly admits he was under-trained for, and the 80,000-strong Wembley KO that closed his career. And then he gives Andre what nobody expected: a flat-out admission that he bit Andre’s shoulder during their 2011 Super Six final, his read on the body shots Andre took that night that left him unable to move for a week after, and his decision to pull his family out of England for good and move to Dubai. He also tells the real story on Joe Calzaghe ghosting their planned exhibition, and weighs in on whether he’d actually get back in a ring with Andre Ward today.

This is one of the most loaded sit-downs in The Art of Ward’s run. Don’t miss it. Subscribe to All The Smoke Fight for more raw conversations with boxing’s biggest names. Tap in.
0:00 Intro — Carl Froch comes on the show1:35 How Andre and Froch reconnected through David Haye5:40 Froch on leaving Sky Sports and going independent5:59 Growing up in Nottingham7:23 Family background and his relationship with his father11:47 His unorthodox style and the four-year break from boxing at 1513:47 Coming back to boxing at 19 and turning professional28:00 The Jean Pascal fight — his first world title35:00 The Jermain Taylor fight — torn ankle, scratched cornea, three weeks out44:00 The Super Six World Boxing Classic — entering the tournament51:53 First meeting with Andre Ward at the Super Six press conference55:21 Froch’s honest scouting report on Ward going into their fight58:27 The 2011 Super Six Final — what really happened that night1:01:15 Froch admits he bit Andre’s shoulder during the fight1:24:11 Froch’s honest self-assessment1:26:01 The body shots that left Andre unable to move for a week1:27:45 Lucian Bute — the destruction in Nottingham1:31:58 George Groves — the controversial first fight1:32:32 Wembley Stadium — 80,000 fans and the KO that ended his career1:38:01 Would Froch and Ward do an exhibition today?1:40:58 The Joe Calzaghe exhibition that never happened1:41:27 Life after boxing1:45:29 Why Froch is moving his family out of England to Dubai1:50:11 Wrap-up
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For the first time ever, Tiffiney Ward steps in front of the camera on THE ART OF WARD. Andre’s wife, best friend, and the woman who’s been by his side for over 25 years opens up about the life she’s kept almost entirely offline. From growing up as an Army brat in Germany, to losing her dad as a teenager, to getting pregnant at 16 and being moved down to Oakland by Virgil Hunter and his wife Millie, this is the origin story behind one of boxing’s greatest careers.

Tiffiney pulls the curtain back on the moments most fans have never heard: their Wednesday-night bible study wedding, the contract Andre signed without showing her, the eight-week training camps that left her crying every single time, the surgeries, the lawsuit, the wink to her in the corner after the Kovalev knockdown, and the morning Andre laid on the bedroom floor and said “I’m done.” She talks about faith, motherhood, the Virgil and Millie blueprint, and what it really takes to stay locked in for 25 years inside a sport that breaks most marriages.

This is Andre Ward’s untold story, told by the only person who’s been there for every chapter. Don’t miss it. Subscribe to All The Smoke Fight for more raw conversations with boxing’s biggest names. Tap in.
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