The EV Musings Podcast

This episode features an in-depth discussion with Marc Mültin on the current state and future of Plug and Charge technology, ISO 15118 standards, and the challenges of EV charging interoperability. Learn about the technical, market, and security aspects shaping the EV charging ecosystem.
Key topics discussed:
- Plug and Charge technology and its adoption challenges
- ISO 15118 standard and its evolution towards bidirectional charging
- Market dynamics and interoperability in EV charging networks
Key Quote"
"User experience is crucial for wider EV adoption."
The EV Musings Podcast is sponsored by Zapmap, the go-to app for EV drivers, helping you find and pay for public charging with confidence.
Links in the show notes:
Home - GIREVE
ISO 11133:2014/Amd 1:2018 - Microbiology of food, animal feed and water — Preparation, production, storage and performance testing of culture media — Amendment 1
Plug and Charge Panel

Episode produced by Arran Sheppard at Urban Podcasts: https://www.urbanpodcasts.co.uk
(C) 2019-2026 Gary Comerford
Support me:
Patreon Link: http://www.patreon.com/evmusings
Ko-fi Link: http://www.ko-fi.com/evmusings
The Books:
'So, you've gone electric?' on Amazon : https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07Q5JVF1X
'So, you've gone renewable?’ on Amazon : https://amzn.to/3LXvIck
Social Media:
EVMusings: Twitter https://twitter.com/MusingsEv
Instagram: @EVmusings
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Upgrade to smarter EV driving with a free week's trial of Zapmap Premium, find out more here https://evmusings.com/zapmap-premium
Mentioned in this episode:
Zapmap
The EV Musings Podcast is sponsored by Zapmap, the go-to app for EV drivers, helping you find and pay for public charging with confidence. Zapmap is free to download and use, with subscription plans for enhanced features such as using Zapmap in-car on CarPlay or Android Auto, and discounted charging across thousands of charge points.

Download the app from the Apple App Store or Google Play Store or find out more at www.zapmap.com.
Zapmap EV Guide

Are there really 160 different EV charging apps in the UK?
In this Mid-Season Round Table, we dive deep into the biggest hurdles facing EV drivers today.
Joining me are Jade Edwards from Zapmap and Victoria Hutton, an EV marketer, to tackle three massive topics:
⚡ The Metric Shift: Why counting "devices" is outdated and how Zapmap & the DfT are changing the way we measure charging hubs.
📱 The App War: Is the proliferation of CPO apps helping or hurting the user experience? We debate whether we need a "single app" solution.
💰 The EV Tax (eVED): A frank discussion on the upcoming 3p-a-mile tax, the messaging behind it, and what it means for the future of EV adoption.
#EV #ElectricVehicles #ChargingInfrastructure #Zapmap #UKPolitics #EVTax
Support me:
Patreon Link:
http://www.patreon.com/evmusings
Ko-fi Link: http://www.ko-fi.com/evmusings The Books: 'So, you've gone electric?' on Amazon : https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07Q5JVF1X
'So, you've gone renewable?’ on Amazon : https://amzn.to/3LXvIck
Social Media:
EVMusings: Twitter https://twitter.com/MusingsEv
Instagram: @EVmusings
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Upgrade to smarter EV driving with a free week's trial of Zapmap Premium, find out more here https://evmusings.com/zapmap-premium

In this episode Gary explores the user experience challenges in EV charging stations, contrasting good and bad examples, and discusses how design improvements can enhance usability for all EV owners.
Key Topics:
User experience challenges in EV charging stations
Comparison of charging experiences: Tesla vs others
Design flaws in current EV chargers
Payment and authentication issues in charging
Potential solutions for better EV charging UX

Chapters
00:00 Introduction to EV Musings and Gary's Experience
01:32 The Young Lady's Charging Dilemma and UX Failures
03:44 Contrasting Easy and Difficult Charging Experiences
04:49 Payment Methods and User Experience in Charging
06:27 Design Flaws in Charger Interfaces and Hardware
08:03 The Impact of Screen Size and Interface Design
09:23 Multiple EVSEs and Connector Selection Challenges
10:47 Plug and Charge and Auto Charge Technologies
12:15 Payment Processing and Standardization Issues
13:42 Cost vs. UX: Are Better Chargers Worth It?
15:09 Tesla's Seamless Charging Experience
17:00 Real-World Charging Failures and Hardware Limitations
18:48 The Future of User-Centric EV Charging Design
Links
Tesla Supercharger V4 - https://www.tesla.com/supercharger
ABB Charging Stations - https://new.abb.com/ev-charging
Kenpower Charging Interface - https://kenpower.com
GridServe EV Charging - https://gridserve.com
Plug and Charge Technology - https://ev.com/plug-and-charge
EV Musings Podcast - https://evmusings.com
The EV Musings Podcast is sponsored by Zapmap, the go-to app for EV drivers, helping you find and pay for public charging with confidence.
Episode produced by Arran Sheppard at Urban Podcasts: https://www.urbanpodcasts.co.uk
(C) 2019-2026 Gary Comerford
Support me:
Patreon Link: http://www.patreon.com/evmusings
Ko-fi Link: http://www.ko-fi.com/evmusings
The Books:
'So, you've gone electric?' on Amazon : https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07Q5JVF1X
'So, you've gone renewable?’ on Amazon : https://amzn.to/3LXvIck
Social Media:
EVMusings: Twitter https://twitter.com/MusingsEv
Instagram: @EVmusings
Octopus Energy referral code (Click this link to get started) https://share.octopus.energy/neat-star-460
Upgrade to smarter EV driving with a free week's trial of Zapmap Premium, find out more here https://evmusings.com/zapmap-premium
Mentioned in this episode:
Zapmap
The EV Musings Podcast is sponsored by Zapmap, the go-to app for EV drivers, helping you find and pay for public charging with confidence. Zapmap is free to download and use, with subscription plans for enhanced features such as using Zapmap in-car on CarPlay or Android Auto, and discounted charging across thousands of charge points.

Download the app from the Apple App Store or Google Play Store or find out more at www.zapmap.com.
Zapmap EV Guide
ZapMap
Download Zapmap and you’ll get the UK’s most comprehensive charging map in your pocket, with a range of filters so you can personalise the map to suit your specific EV model. So it’s easy to find the best charge for you, whether you’re charging on-street, en-route, or at your destination.
You can even see live charger availability and price information in the app, helping you choose your charger at-a-glance, and turn up with total confidence that it will work, it will be available, and it will be in your budget.
Plus you can pay through the app, or with a tap of the Zapmap charging card, at thousands of charge points nationwide. No need to download a different app for each charging network. You can download Zapmap for free, or check out Zapmap Premium for charging discounts, in-car compatibility, and additional filters

Why Hesitation Holds Back the Electric Vehicle Revolution—and How to Overcome It
In this episode, we explore the common barriers preventing more people from switching to electric vehicles. Drawing parallels with smartphone adoption and featuring insights from Greg Hughes, this discussion clarifies why hesitation persists—and how overcoming it can accelerate the move to cleaner mobility.
Main Topics:
The psychological and societal barriers to adopting EVs, including range anxiety and misinformation
The tangible benefits of test drives and real-world experiences in easing fears
How infrastructure, costs, and secondhand EV options influence buying decisions
Misinformation and how reliable, accessible information can break down doubts
Practical advice for prospective owners: test drives, peer insights, and thinking long-term

Resources & Links
Everything Electric Event
Robert Llewelyn – YouTube Channel
Tesla Official Website
MG Motors
Hyundai Electric Vehicles

Key Takeaway:
Hesitation around EVs is natural but primarily rooted in misinformation, lack of firsthand experience, and infrastructural concerns. Just like the smartphone revolution, once people have the chance to sit in, drive, and see the benefits firsthand, resistance diminishes. The shift to electric isn't just inevitable; it’s already accelerating—your move might just be a test drive away.
The EV Musings Podcast is sponsored by Zapmap, the go-to app for EV drivers, helping you find and pay for public charging with confidence.
Episode produced by Arran Sheppard at Urban Podcasts: https://www.urbanpodcasts.co.uk
(C) 2019-2026 Gary Comerford
Support me:
Patreon Link: http://www.patreon.com/evmusings
Ko-fi Link: http://www.ko-fi.com/evmusings
The Books:
'So, you've gone electric?' on Amazon : https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07Q5JVF1X
'So, you've gone renewable?’ on Amazon : https://amzn.to/3LXvIck
Social Media:
EVMusings: Twitter https://twitter.com/MusingsEv
Instagram: @EVmusings
Octopus Energy referral code (Click this link to get started) https://share.octopus.energy/neat-star-460
Upgrade to smarter EV driving with a free week's trial of Zapmap Premium, find out more here https://evmusings.com/zapmap-premium
Mentioned in this episode:
Zapmap
The EV Musings Podcast is sponsored by Zapmap, the go-to app for EV drivers, helping you find and pay for public charging with confidence. Zapmap is free to download and use, with subscription plans for enhanced features such as using Zapmap in-car on CarPlay or Android Auto, and discounted charging across thousands of charge points.

Download the app from the Apple App Store or Google Play Store or find out more at www.zapmap.com.
Zapmap EV Guide

Exploring the evolution of supermarket charging stations for electric vehicles, their strategic deployment, pricing models, and user experience insights.
Key topics
History and evolution of supermarket EV charging stations
Different supermarket charging strategies and hardware
Pricing models and user incentives
Dwell time and charging speed considerations
Impact of supermarket charging on EV adoption

Key Quote:
"Supermarket charging can be surprisingly cheap"
Resources
EV Musings Podcast - https://evmusings.com
ZAPMAP - https://zap-map.com
Sainsbury's Smart Charge - https://sainsburys.co.uk
GeniePoint - https://geniepoint.co.uk
Podpoint - https://podpoint.com
MFG (Motor Fuel Group) - https://mfgplc.co.uk
The EV Musings Podcast is sponsored by Zapmap, the go-to app for EV drivers, helping you find and pay for public charging with confidence.
Links in the show notes:
MFG and Morrisons announce forecourts partnership and EV expansion - Motor Fuel Group
Sainsbury's Smart Charge: A New Player in the UK EV Charging Market - The EV Musings Podcast
140 - The CPO Episode II - The EV Musings Podcast

Episode produced by Arran Sheppard at Urban Podcasts: https://www.urbanpodcasts.co.uk
(C) 2019-2026 Gary Comerford
Support me:
Patreon Link: http://www.patreon.com/evmusings
Ko-fi Link: http://www.ko-fi.com/evmusings
The Books:
'So, you've gone electric?' on Amazon : https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07Q5JVF1X
'So, you've gone renewable?’ on Amazon : https://amzn.to/3LXvIck
Social Media:
EVMusings: Twitter https://twitter.com/MusingsEv
Instagram: @EVmusings
Octopus Energy referral code (Click this link to get started) https://share.octopus.energy/neat-star-460
Upgrade to smarter EV driving with a free week's trial of Zapmap Premium, find out more here https://evmusings.com/zapmap-premium
Mentioned in this episode:
Zapmap
The EV Musings Podcast is sponsored by Zapmap, the go-to app for EV drivers, helping you find and pay for public charging with confidence. Zapmap is free to download and use, with subscription plans for enhanced features such as using Zapmap in-car on CarPlay or Android Auto, and discounted charging across thousands of charge points.

Download the app from the Apple App Store or Google Play Store or find out more at www.zapmap.com.
Zapmap EV Guide