This Week in Startups

This Week In Startups is made possible by:Circle — http://circle.so/twistHubspot Creators — http://clickhubspot.com/twist2Uber AI Solutions — http://uber.com/ai-solutionsToday’s show: *Dave Morin joined the show today to explain how the OpenClaw Foundation came into existence, and what its goals are. Fear not, Peter Steinberger retains directional control of the project. But if you want to sustain an open-source project over time, you need a corporate entity, well-heeled sponsors, maintainers and more. Morin is helping make sure that OpenClaw can stay true to itself well into the future.TWIST also put the day’s most critical AI stories to Morin for his insight: What’s his take on the Anthropic-DoW fracas? Does Morin think that OpenAI and Anthropic are catching up to OpenClaw in agentic terms? And will OpenAI cede the consumer crown to Anthropic? Next came two amazing demos: Runtools’ CTO Greg Kara showed off a 3D interface for OpenClaw that his team built, allowing ‘Claw users to watch their agents work in real time, and even read over their shoulder. Then PickelWatch founder George Yameen showed off an agnetic workflow using OpenClaw and Claude’s Chrome plugin side-by-side. The gist? Make sure that the agentic service you select is cost-effective. **GUESTS:**Dave Morin: https://x.com/davemorin?lang=enGreg Kara: https://x.com/GregKara6George Yameen: https://x.com/GeorgeYameen**Timestamps:** 00:00 Dave Morin Joins the Show

02:31 How Dave Morin got Claw-Pilled

05:01 Jason’s critical OpenClaw moments

08:38 How Dave showcases his OpenClaw skills

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14:40 How long has the OpenClaw Foundation existed?

17:21 How much authority does Peter Steinberger retain?

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19:20 How ‘air traffic control’ works for a project like OpenClaw

23:15 The economics of open-source maintainers

25:13 Dave’s physical OpenClaw setup

27:45 How Jason uses OpenClaw to curate his reading, fashion, and travel

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32:18 Why the second wave of ideas is where things get the most interesting

34:06 Apple’s slow movement and hesitance to depricate products

39:51 How Jason uses OpenClaw to coach the next generation of executives

44:52 Are Anthropic and OpenAI catching up to OpenClaw?

49:40 Introduction to Runtools.AI

53:49 Runtools.AI demo of 3D OpenClaw environment

57:06 Introduction to PickleWatch

57:27 PickelWatch demo of Claude Chrome vs. OpenClaw

01:03:38 How PickleWatch ups your pickleball swing

32:56 Jason’s advice for founders on stumbling onto new ideas

42:16 Jason on the DoW’s handling of the Anthropic mess

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Today’s show:
*$110 billion buys you 15% of OpenAI. Amazon, Nvidia, and SoftBank placed their bets on ChatGPT, which now has 900 million weekly active users and 50 million paying subscribers. Find out why Jason is anticipating the wildest J-Curve swing of all time, and believes we’ve ALREADY hit AGI… it’s just not implemented yet.
Plus a visit from our roving correspondent Nick O’Neill, checking in on the Crypto Chaos in Miami Beach, and hot demos from three young founders.
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Everest Chris: https://openclaw.unloopa.com/
Ben Broca: https://polsia.com/
Adi Gabrani: https://makemyclaw.com/
Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

01:33 We’re hiring a new producer!

05:42 OpenAI raised $110 billion

08:59 Understanding the LLM J-Curve

00:11:25 Deel - Founders ship faster on Deel. Set up payroll for any country in minutes and get back to building. Visit ⁠https://deel.com/twist⁠ to learn more.

00:15:02 CRYPTO CHAOS IN MIAMI BEACH!

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00:22:54 Mass layoffs at Block

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00:32:04 AI Scott Adams: The Saga Continues

00:38:13 Make URLs for local businesses with Unloopa

00:45:36 Rent a Polsia agent to run your company

00:58:55 Deploy swarms in 60 seconds with MakeMyClaw

01:05:05 LAUNCH FEST is coming to SF

01:55:49 Will Paramount actually buy WBD?

01:06:58 Why Lon loves “Knight of the 7 Kingdoms”

01:07:21 On “Neighbors” and First Amendment Warriors

01:13:43 All about Jason’s favorite chargers
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Today’s show:
We’re going behind the curtain today — it’s a packed show!
We found Tyler Yust, OpenClaw’s third EVER contributor to share his insights from within foundation! We’ve got Deedy Das, of Menlo Ventures, on the show to discuss whether SaaS is cooked! Next we met the creator of an OpenClaw instance that fits in your pocket! We’ve also got the founder of OpenBrowse showing us how he automatically detects and generates OpenClaw skills!

Timestamps:
00:00 Intro - Deedy Das Joins the Show!04:54 Anthropic’s revenue growth and valuation06:07 OpenClaw Contributor Tyler Yuts joins the show09:24 iMessage integration and Apple’s proprietary systems
00:10:07 Lemon.io - Get 15% off your first 4 weeks of developer time at https://Lemon.io/twist14:31 Anthropic vs. the Pentagon
00:20:02 Every.io - For all of your incorporation, banking, payroll, benefits, accounting, taxes or other back-office administration needs, visit https://every.io.
00:30:08 Sentry - New users can get $240 in free credits when they go to https://sentry.io/twist and use the code TWIST
00:35:46 The Infamous Citrini article00:32:47 Come to LAUNCH fest! https://fest.launch.co00:36:28 Why Deedy thinks the Cetrini article is a work of science fiction00:44:51 The illusion of privacy in corporate America00:41:18 Deedy thinks Enterprise SaaS apps aren’t going to be vibe coded00:49:20 Jason’s Reddit Bot00:52:01 Jason’s obsession with Singapore’s food00:55:22 How Unbrowse pulls any backend API!01:02:07 Sebastian shows off the smallest OpenClaw form factor!01:12:04 The Prolo ring — for people who doomscroll01:20:21 Deedy’s Podcast Player App!

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This Week In Startups is made possible by:Caldera Lab - [calderalab.com/twist](https://calderalab.com/twist)Iru - [iru.com](http://Iru.com/twist)LinkedIn Jobs - http://linkedin.com/twist*OpenClaw is incredible at automating tasks. But what if it could also fix your startup’s internal communication problems? Give agents shared memory, and you may be able to break down information silos while ensuring that teammates have the same context.@oliverhenry and @jeffweisbein demo what they’ve actually built with OpenClaw, including marketing automations, agentic loops, and bug fixing tools. Then we dig into what agentic infrastructure means for how startups operate, and why traditional SaaS products need to quickly adapt for the agentic era.Oliver Henry: The creator of the ‘[Larry](https://clawhub.ai/OllieWazza/larry)’ OpenClaw skill, and founder of [Larrybrain](https://www.larrybrain.com/)Jeff Weisbein: The Claw-pilled founder of [WizardRFP](https://www.wizardrfp.com/) and [WhoCoversIt](https://www.whocoversit.com/), who shared his OpenClaw framework [publicly](https://weisbe.in/openclaw) and built a [getting-started guide for the tool](https://github.com/jeffweisbein/openclaw-starter-kit)**Timestamps:** 00:00 Intro
(00:01:43) Here’s why you never ski alone in a blizzard!
(00:04:22) Why everyone at LAUNCH is going to get their own Mac Mini and AI agent
(00:08:06) “OpenClaw has changed my entire solo-preneur lifestyle.” — Jeff Weinstein of Hype Lab
(00:09:06) Jason’s urgent API message to Steve Huffman of Reddit
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(00:15:12) Oliver shows us his Larry Skill to make viral TikTok content with zero human intervention
(00:20:10) Iru unifies identity, endpoint security, and compliance into one platform. Book a demo at [www.iru.com/twist](www.iru.com/twist).
(00:21:22) Why are platforms like TikTok still so hostile toward bots?
(00:24:45) The shift from asking a chatbot how to do things, to just telling an agent to do things
(00:26:05) How Oliver is training Larry to get better at its job
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(00:32:47) Why making your agent more PROACTIVE is more important than automating everything
(00:37:14) Why pull requests… just aren’t really a thing any more.
(00:39:40) How Jason is using his new AI assistant, “Roy,” to keep track of everything going on at his company
(00:53:00) Is the SaaS crash actually rational after all?
(00:51:48) Using AI to create “pools of excellence”
(00:54:03) The more you integrate software into AI, the less valuable the software becomes
(00:56:56) Why “Agentify Your SaaS” may become the rallying cry
(00:58:31) How has the age verification scandal impacted Discord’s IPO plans?
(01:03:10) When you want to build your own skill vs. downloading someone else’s
(01:03:53) How Larrybrain finds helpful skills and helps creators monetize
(01:08:32) When we will get true experts making verifiably top skills?
(01:11:40) Jason’s SCARY but also AWESOME new OpenClaw CEO tools
(01:18:35) Why a lot of MBAs should probably have PhD’s
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Today’s show:
*Getting OpenClaw set up and running without destroying your bank account is one thing.
But now that you have your agent or swarm operational, how can you use them to get real work done?
We have three builders who are going to show you how to maximize your OpenClaw output!
GUESTS:
Jordy Coltman: Viral X author and creator of the WeeklyClaw newsletter
Jesse Leimgruber: Creator of the OpenHome.com smart speaker and kit
Tremaine Grant: Founder/CEO of Pulse
PLUS, on Off Duty, Lon and Jason talk “Knight of the 7 Kingdoms” and “The Pitt,” react to the “Mandalorian and Grogu” trailer, and check out some of Jason’s favorite headphones and earbuds.
Timestamps:
00:40 We’re gonna show you how to maximize your IRL OpenClaw productivity
00:50 Even AI skeptic Lon is blown away by OpenClaw’s power
01:46 Jordy Coltman’s top time-wasting mistakes made by OpenClaw beginners
03:00 Why Jordy thinks new hardware is the best home for your agents
05:38 Why Jason thinks “OpenClaw is a box” is coming soon
08:29 Tremaine Grant of Pulse demos his “virtual office” interface and the “Heartbeat Protocol”
00:10:15 Gusto - Gusto. Check out the online payroll and benefits experts with software built specifically for small business and startups. Try Gusto today and get three months FREE at Gusto.com/twist.
00:15:16 What’s really happening when agents “chat” together?
00:18:53 Jesse Leimgruber’s demos his OpenHome AI smart speakers
00:19:47 Circle.so - The easiest way to build a home for your community, events, and courses — all under your own brand. TWiST listeners get $1,000 off the Circle Plus Plan by going to http://circle.so/twist.
00:22:55 Freeing agents from screens and making them proactive
00:29:43 Northwest Registered Agent - Northwest Registered Agent. Get more when you start your business with Northwest. In 10 clicks and 10 minutes, you can form your company and walk away with a real business identity — Learn more at www.northwestregisteredagent.com/twist
00:30:58 Why Jason wants his agent to read Slack and emails to him
00:50:05 Who polices autonomous agents? Other agents?
00:53:32 Jason and Lon’s thoughts on “Knight of the Seven Kingdoms”
00:56:20 Lon’s favorite picks from Quentin Tarantino’s Top 10 movies
01:01:13 “The Mandalorian and Grogu” trailer reaction
01:05:22 Jason’s favorite earbuds and headphones
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