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130. Edouard Harris - New Research: Advanced AI may tend to seek power *byĀ default*
12/10/2022 | 58 mins.Progress in AI has been accelerating dramatically in recent years, and even months. It seems like every other day, thereās a new, previously-believed-to-be-impossible feat of AI thatās achieved by a world-leading lab. And increasingly, these breakthroughs have been driven by the same, simple idea: AI scaling.
For those who havenāt been following the AI scaling sage, scaling means training AI systems with larger models, using increasingly absurd quantities of data and processing power. So far, empirical studies by the worldās top AI labs seem to suggest that scaling is an open-ended process that can lead to more and more capable and intelligent systems, with no clear limit.
And thatās led many people to speculate that scaling might usher in a new era of broadly human-level or even superhuman AIāāāthe holy grail AI researchers have been after for decades.
And while that might sound cool, an AI that can solve general reasoning problems as well as or better than a human might actually be an intrinsically dangerous thing to build.
At least, thatās the conclusion that many AI safety researchers have come to following the publication of a new line of research that explores how modern AI systems tend to solve problems, and whether we should expect more advanced versions of them to perform dangerous behaviours like seeking power.
This line of research in AI safety is called āpower-seekingā, and although itās currently not well understood outside the frontier of AI safety and AI alignment research, itās starting to draw a lot of attention. The first major theoretical study of power seeking was led by Alex Turner, whoās appeared on the podcast before, and was published in NeurIPS (the worldās top AI conference), for example.
And today, weāll be hearing from Edouard Harris, an AI alignment researcher and one of my co-founders in the AI safety company (Gladstone AI). Edās just completed a significant piece of AI safety research that extends Alex Turnerās original power-seeking work, and that shows what seems to be the first experimental evidence suggesting that we should expect highly advanced AI systems to seek power by default.
What does power seeking really mean though? And does all this imply for the safety of future, general-purpose reasoning systems? Thatās what this episode will be all about.
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Intro music:
- Artist: Ron Gelinas
- Track Title: Daybreak Chill Blend (original mix)
- Link to Track: https://youtu.be/d8Y2sKIgFWc
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Chapters:
- 0:00 Intro
- 4:00 Alex Turner's research
- 7:45 What technology wants
- 11:30 Universal goals
- 17:30 Connecting observations
- 24:00 Micro power seeking behaviour
- 28:15 Ed's research
- 38:00 The human as the environment
- 42:30 What leads to power seeking
- 48:00 Competition as a default outcome
- 52:45 General concern
- 57:30 Wrap-up- Itās no secret that a new generation of powerful and highly scaled language models is taking the world by storm. Companies like OpenAI, AI21Labs, and Cohere have built models so versatile that theyāre powering hundreds of new applications, and unlocking entire new markets for AI-generated text.
In light of that, I thought it would be worth exploring the applied side of language modelling ā to dive deep into one specific language model-powered tool, to understand what it means to build apps on top of scaled AI systems. How easily can these models be used in the wild? What bottlenecks and challenges do people run into when they try to build apps powered by large language models? Thatās what I wanted to find out.
My guest today is Amber Teng, and sheās a data scientist who recently published a blog that got quite a bit of attention, about a resume cover letter generator that she created using GPT-3, OpenAIās powerful and now-famous language model. I thought her project would be make for a great episode, because it exposes so many of the challenges and opportunities that come with the new era of powerful language models that weāve just entered.
So today weāll be exploring exactly that: looking at the applied side of language modelling and prompt engineering, understanding how large language models have made new apps not only possible but also much easier to build, and the likely future of AI-powered products.
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Intro music:
- Artist: Ron Gelinas
- Track Title: Daybreak Chill Blend (original mix)
- Link to Track: https://youtu.be/d8Y2sKIgFWc
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Chapters:
- 0:00 Intro
- 2:30 Amberās background
- 5:30 Using GPT-3
- 14:45 Building prompts up
- 18:15 Prompting best practices
- 21:45 GPT-3 mistakes
- 25:30 Context windows
- 30:00 End-to-end time
- 34:45 The cost of one cover letter
- 37:00 The analytics
- 41:45 Dynamics around company-building
- 46:00 Commoditization of language modelling
- 51:00 Wrap-up - Imagine youāre a big hedge fund, and you want to go out and buy yourself some data. Data is really valuable for you ā itās literally going to shape your investment decisions and determine your outcomes.
But the moment you receive your data, a cold chill runs down your spine: how do you know your data supplier gave you the data they said they would? From your perspective, youāre staring down 100,000 rows in a spreadsheet, with no way to tell if half of them were made up ā or maybe more for that matter.
This might seem like an obvious problem in hindsight, but itās one most of us havenāt even thought of. We tend to assume that data is data, and that 100,000 rows in a spreadsheet is 100,000 legitimate samples.
The challenge of making sure youāre dealing with high-quality data, or at least that you have the data you think you do, is called data observability, and itās surprisingly difficult to solve for at scale. In fact, there are now entire companies that specialize in exactly that ā one of which is Zectonal, whose co-founder Dave Hirko will be joining us for todayās episode of the podcast.
Dave has spent his career understanding how to evaluate and monitor data at massive scale. He did that first at AWS in the early days of cloud computing, and now through Zectonal, where heās working on strategies that allow companies to detect issues with their data ā whether theyāre caused by intentional data poisoning, or unintentional data quality problems. Dave joined me to talk about data observability, data as a new vector for cyberattacks, and the future of enterprise data management on this episode of the TDS podcast.
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Intro music:
- Artist: Ron Gelinas
- Track Title: Daybreak Chill Blend (original mix)
- Link to Track: https://youtu.be/d8Y2sKIgFWc
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
3:00 What is data observability?
10:45 āFunny businessā with data providers
12:50 Data supply chains
16:50 Various cybersecurity implications
20:30 Deep data inspection
27:20 Observed direction of change
34:00 Steps the average person can take
41:15 Challenges with GDPR transitions
48:45 Wrap-up - Today, we live in the era of AI scaling. It seems like everywhere you look people are pushing to make large language models larger, or more multi-modal and leveraging ungodly amounts of processing power to do it.
But although thatās one of the defining trends of the modern AI era, itās not the only one. At the far opposite extreme from the world of hyperscale transformers and giant dense nets is the fast-evolving world of TinyML, where the goal is to pack AI systems onto small edge devices.
My guest today is Matthew Stewart, a deep learning and TinyML researcher at Harvard University, where he collaborates with the worldās leading IoT and TinyML experts on projects aimed at getting small devices to do big things with AI. Recently, along with his colleagues, Matt co-authored a paper that introduced a new way of thinking about sensing.
The idea is to tightly integrate machine learning and sensing on one device. For example, today we might have a sensor like a camera embedded on an edge device, and that camera would have to send data about all the pixels in its field of view back to a central server that might take that data and use it to perform a task like facial recognition. But thatās not great because it involves sending potentially sensitive data ā in this case, images of peopleās faces ā from an edge device to a server, introducing security risks.
So instead, what if the cameraās output was processed on the edge device itself, so that all that had to be sent to the server was much less sensitive information, like whether or not a given face was detected? These systems ā where edge devices harness onboard AI, and share only processed outputs with the rest of the world ā are what Matt and his colleagues call ML sensors.
ML sensors really do seem like theyāll be part of the future, and they introduce a host of challenging ethical, privacy, and operational questions that I discussed with Matt on this episode of the TDS podcast.
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Intro music:
- Artist: Ron Gelinas
- Track Title: Daybreak Chill Blend (original mix)
- Link to Track: https://youtu.be/d8Y2sKIgFWc
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Chapters:
- 3:20 Special challenges with TinyML
- 9:00 Most challenging aspects of Mattās work
- 12:30 ML sensors
- 21:30 Customizing the technology
- 24:45 Data sheets and ML sensors
- 31:30 Customers with their own custom software
- 36:00 Access to the algorithm
- 40:30 Wrap-up - Deep learning models ā transformers in particular ā are defining the cutting edge of AI today. Theyāre based on an architecture called an artificial neural network, as you probably already know if youāre a regular Towards Data Science reader. And if you are, then you might also already know that as their name suggests, artificial neural networks were inspired by the structure and function of biological neural networks, like those that handle information processing in our brains.
So itās a natural question to ask: how far does that analogy go? Today, deep neural networks can master an increasingly wide range of skills that were historically unique to humans ā skills like creating images, or using language, planning, playing video games, and so on. Could that mean that these systems are processing information like the human brain, too?
To explore that question, weāll be talking to JR King, a CNRS researcher at the Ecole Normale SupĆ©rieure, affiliated with Meta AI, where he leads the Brain & AI group. There, he works on identifying the computational basis of human intelligence, with a focus on language. JR is a remarkably insightful thinker, whoās spent a lot of time studying biological intelligence, where it comes from, and how it maps onto artificial intelligence. And he joined me to explore the fascinating intersection of biological and artificial information processing on this episode of the TDS podcast.
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Intro music:
- Artist: Ron Gelinas
- Track Title: Daybreak Chill Blend (original mix)
- Link to Track: https://youtu.be/d8Y2sKIgFWc
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Chapters:
2:30 What is JRās day-to-day?
5:00 AI and neuroscience
12:15 Quality of signals within the research
21:30 Universality of structures
28:45 What makes up a brain?
37:00 Scaling AI systems
43:30 Growth of the human brain
48:45 Observing certain overlaps
55:30 Wrap-up
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