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The final episode of AIpril, M3GAN arrived in January 2023 as a modest Blumhouse horror release, and promptly became one of the most talked-about horror comedies of the year. On a budget of $12 million, it grossed over $180 million worldwide, spawned a franchise, and put a ten-second hallway dance sequence into the permanent vocabulary of internet culture.
Director Gerard Johnstone insisted from the outset on a practical-effects-first approach, and supervising puppeteer Adrien Morot built a suite of six or seven animatronic puppets capable of different ranges of movement — some with articulated eyes and heads, others with fully computerised motion control. The defining creative rule was simple: animatronic when still, performer when moving. That performer was Amie Donald, a ten-year-old New Zealand national dance champion and brown belt in karate, who wore a static silicone mask on set that was later replaced in post-production with a digitally animated face by Wētā Workshop. The result is a character who occupies the uncanny valley not as a technical failure but as a deliberate aesthetic strategy; M3GAN is unsettling precisely because you can never quite be sure what you're looking at.
M3GANs design decision had downstream consequences the production could not entirely have anticipated: audiences, particularly on TikTok and in queer communities, embraced M3GAN as a style icon. Universal's chief marketing officer Michael Moses identified the hallway dance sequence, performed by Amie Donald, and utilised TikTok dance trends and built the campaign around letting it spread organically rather than manufacturing a formal challenge.
M3GAN is a genuinely well-crafted piece of genre filmmaking, with a practical effects philosophy rooted in old-school puppetry and a central performance of remarkable physical intelligence, which makes it fun and accessible, but also threads together anxieties about outsourced parenting, emotional dependency on technology, and the ethics of designing companion AI for children — themes that give the film considerably more thematic density than its campy surface might suggest.
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This AIpril, what is love, if not AI persevering?
Spike Jonze's Her asks that question with such sincerity and precision that it never feels like a provocation; it feels like it's holding up a mirror to today's society.
Her has become of one of the most quietly radical and prophetic films of the 21st century: a love story with no villain, no third act betrayal, just the aching reality of two beings in love, but evolving at different speeds.
Released in 2013, Her imagined AI companions with emotional intelligence, fluid personalities, and an unsettling capacity to outgrow the humans who depend on them, years before anyone had heard of a large language model. But Her was never really about technology. It was about loneliness, intimacy, and the stories we tell ourselves about connection.
From Jonze's years-long development of the script, rooted in the breakdown of his own marriage, and an early-2000s encounter with primitive chatbot technology, to the radical decision to recast Samantha Morton with Scarlett Johansson deep into post-production, this is the story of how a film in the 2010s about artificial intimacy became about actual intimacy in the 2020s.
‘I felt pure, unconditional love’: the people who marry their AI chatbots | The Guardian

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As part of Aipril, I'm delving into the back catalogue to include one of the greatest modern AI movies... Ex Machina, and a rare episode I did back in August 2022 with a guest!
Impulse. Response. Fluid. Imperfect. Patterned. Chaotic. All words to describe this podcast, but also uttered by Nathan describing the brain of his ultimate creation; Ava. But can Ava pass as human? Let's find out as we delve into Alex Garland's (sort-of!) directorial debut, EX MACHINA!
My guest for this episode wasn't lucky, he was chosen. I had to use all of my self-awareness, imagination, manipulation, sexuality and empathy to be joined by the terrific Jack Chambers-Ward from Sequelisers, who was made to be on this podcast talking about Ex Machina.
Despite all of his work so far, Ex Machina might very well be Alex Garland's masterpiece. A complex, character-driven piece, on the power of nature vs future, nature vs nurture and man vs object of desire.
Basically this movie and this episode.... is all about Kyoko. Kyoko is the key. Don't believe us? Listen in and we'll explain why....
If you've created a conscious machine, it's not the history of man. That's the history of gods.
The YouTube video we mention several times, by Shaun, is titled How Wikipedia Got Ex Machina (2014) Wrong and is available here
Jack (@jlwchambers) hosts Sequelisers alongside Matt Stogdon and Tim Maytom. You can find their back catalogue of brilliant episodes in your podcast app of choice, and they're on Twitter as @Sequelisers
(Episode originally released 18th August 2022)
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From the Archive
There's no new episode this week, so I thought you might be interested in revisiting this slightly older, but no less brilliant episode. Just bear in mind, this episode is several years old, it may not sound quite as polished as newer episodes, and new information may have come to light in recent years with regards to the making of this movie (please see above for the original date of release)

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In 1992, a little-known Philip K. Dick short story was optioned as a sequel to Total Recall, with Arnold Schwarzenegger set to reprise his role. After a decade of Hollywood turbulence, involving a studio bankruptcy, a directorial hand-off, and two blockbusters that kept getting in the way, Steven Spielberg was finally behind the camera on what would become one of the most visually inventive science fiction films ever made: Minority Report.
A sequence of remarkable events would lead to Tom Cruise passing a script to Spielberg that kick-started a collaboration ten years in the making. Jan de Bont, fresh off Speed and Twister, was briefly attached as director before quietly fading from the project; and the delays caused by Mission: Impossible 2 and A.I. Artificial Intelligence paradoxically gave Spielberg and his team the time to make the film better, and make the film way more prescient than any other cinematic dystopian utopia future.
In the world of Minority Report, predicting crime before it happens raises serious moral and ethical questions. The Precogs, while gifted, are treated more like tools than human beings, in a system that claims to prevent crime but at what cost to individual freedom?
Minority Report had the world's first fully digital production design, a sixteen-person think tank of scientists and futurists who designed the world of 2054, and ILM's groundbreaking effects work blending physical model-making with cutting-edge CGI.
And... Tom Cruise runs. A lot.
(You're not seeing double! This episode had to be reissued due to an issue with Spotify. They couldn't fix it their end, so the episode has been re-released instead. Apologies for any confusion!)
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In 1992, a little-known Philip K. Dick short story was optioned as a sequel to Total Recall, with Arnold Schwarzenegger set to reprise his role. After a decade of Hollywood turbulence, involving a studio bankruptcy, a directorial hand-off, and two blockbusters that kept getting in the way, Steven Spielberg was finally behind the camera on what would become one of the most visually inventive science fiction films ever made: Minority Report.
A sequence of remarkable events would lead to Tom Cruise passing a script to Spielberg that kick-started a collaboration ten years in the making. Jan de Bont, fresh off Speed and Twister, was briefly attached as director before quietly fading from the project; and the delays caused by Mission: Impossible 2 and A.I. Artificial Intelligence paradoxically gave Spielberg and his team the time to make the film better, and make the film way more prescient than any other cinematic dystopian utopia future.
In the world of Minority Report, predicting crime before it happens raises serious moral and ethical questions. The Precogs, while gifted, are treated more like tools than human beings, in a system that claims to prevent crime but at what cost to individual freedom?
Minority Report had the world's first fully digital production design, a sixteen-person think tank of scientists and futurists who designed the world of 2054, and ILM's groundbreaking effects work blending physical model-making with cutting-edge CGI.
And... Tom Cruise runs. A lot.
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