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    Ep. 055: Together for Good - The Power of Community Climate Action

    11/06/2026 | 58 mins.
    Helen Meech is Executive Director of the Climate Coalition, the UK's largest group of organisations dedicated to action on people, climate and nature. Over 130 member organisations, from the National Trust to Oxfam to Save the Children, plus a network of around 3,500 community organisers across the UK. And yet most people have never heard of them. As Helen explains, that's deliberate.
    We talk about Great Big Green Week, the Coalition's flagship campaign, running this year from 6 to 14 June. It has more than doubled in size every year for three years: 250,000 people, then 600,000, then 1.2 million last year, with around 2 million expected this year. The stat that matters most: over a third of attendees had never engaged with climate or nature before. They came because someone they knew organised something, or because it was free to do with the kids on a Saturday.
    We also dig into where power actually sits. Helen's framing, "creating the space for politics to move into," challenges the idea that change is something politicians do to us. And we compare notes on the People's Emergency Briefing, which we recently screened at the Grange Hub, and the tension every communicator in this space wrestles with: realism versus hope.
    The post-interview chat gets into Tom's view that the era of being polite about the emergency is over, Chloe's case for hope grounded in community rather than technology, and why we still don't have a Help for Heroes equivalent for the climate movement.
    About the guest
    Helen Meech is Executive Director of the Climate Coalition. She has spent 25 years in environmental campaigning and movement-building, including roles at the National Trust and the RSPB, where she was Head of Movement Building and led the development of the People's Plan for Nature. Her work is built on a single belief: people are powerful, especially when they come together.
    The Climate Coalition: theclimatecoalition.org Great Big Green Week: greatbiggreenweek.com
    Chapters
    00:00 - Welcome and intros
    01:30 - Grange update: screening the People's Emergency Briefing at the Hub
    04:30 - Watching hard truths in community, and why that changes the experience
    06:55 - Tom's case: the days of being polite about the emergency are over
    07:30 - Wilder Connections summer programme: co-design with young people
    10:57 - Who is the Climate Coalition?
    14:59 - Why most people haven't heard of the Climate Coalition (on purpose)
    17:24 - "Creating the space for politics to move into"
    20:05 - Everyone has power: protest, community organising, media, culture
    22:18 - Great Big Green Week: nightclubs, litter picks, fetes and school assemblies
    23:59 - The infrastructure behind 6,000 local events
    29:54 - Flooded pitches: why grassroots sport is organising
    30:30 - The unexpected challenge: keeping the big NGOs on board
    32:43 - Greenwashing and a brand with a life of its own
    34:15 - The Coalition's three policy asks
    36:50 - The five million target, and matching Children in Need for awareness
    39:43 - Helen's reaction to the People's Emergency Briefing
    42:28 - Rebecca Solnit and hope as an action
    44:35 - How to get involved in Great Big Green Week
    46:03 - Tom and Chloe debrief: community action vs direct action
    48:27 - The 3.5% rule, and whether the research still holds
    50:45 - The school drop-off apology problem: why we need a safe movement to belong to
    53:40 - Hope vs fear: did the briefing get the balance right?
    Key takeaways
    Over a third of Great Big Green Week attendees have never engaged with climate or nature before. They come because the event is organised by someone they know, connected to a community they're already part of, or simply free to do with the kids. Over 80% of those newcomers wanted to do more afterwards.
    Great Big Green Week has more than doubled in size every year for three years, and reached a media audience of over 60 million last year. Around 11% of the UK population recognises it when prompted, on a par with campaigns that have run for decades.
    Helen's core argument about power: if we say politicians are the only ones with power, we're handing ours to them. The Coalition's job is to make the public mandate visible so politicians have space to move into.
    The Coalition's three policy asks: climate finance flowing where it's most needed, fairness at the heart of climate action (bills, jobs, just transition), and the urgent protection and restoration of nature.
    Fear needs to be combined with agency. Helen cites the Branding Biodiversity report: hard-hitting information without a path to action paralyses people. Twenty-five years into her career, the People's Emergency Briefing still made her cry. Her response was to write a to-do list.
    Hope is an action, not a mood. Rebecca Solnit's framing: pessimists and optimists both excuse themselves from doing anything.
    Resources and links mentioned
    Organisations and campaigns
    The Climate Coalition: theclimatecoalition.org
    Great Big Green Week (6-14 June 2026): greatbiggreenweek.com
    National Emergency Briefing / People's Emergency Briefing, including the screening map and how to host one: nebriefing.org
    Wilder Connections, Chloe's charity growing a movement for nature connection in young people: wilderconnections.charity
    Climate Psychology Alliance (facilitation training Chloe mentioned): climatepsychologyalliance.org
    More in Common (audience segmentation partner): moreincommon.org.uk
    Bristol Stepping Sisters
    National Trust, RSPB, Oxfam, Save the Children, Co-op (Coalition members referenced)

    Ideas and references
    Rebecca Solnit, Hope in the Dark
    Joanna Macy, Active Hope: activehope.info
    Branding Biodiversity report (Futerra): fear combined with agency
    The 3.5% rule (Erica Chenoweth's research on nonviolent resistance)
    The People's Plan for Nature: peoplesplanfornature.org

    Come and stay with us
    If this conversation has you craving time somewhere slower, our off-grid cabins sit in a quiet corner of Monmouthshire surrounded by 80 acres of recovering nature. Visit grangeproject.co.uk and click "Stay with us" in the top right corner.
  • Wilder Podcast

    Ep. 054: The Psychology of Species Reintroductions with Pete Cairns

    26/05/2026 | 1h 1 mins.
    Episode summary
    We see Pete Cairns as rewilding royalty. Thirty years in the conservation conversation, co-founder and former CEO of SCOTLAND: The Big Picture, and now host of the new podcast At the Edge. In this episode Tom and Chloe sit down with Pete to dig into the one thing every species reintroduction in the UK has in common, and it is not the species.
    Wildcats, sea eagles, red kites, beavers, lynx. The practical side of bringing animals back is largely solved. What is not solved is the human side. The consultation, the fear, the bureaucracy, the politics, and the deep emotional and economic stakes for the rural communities living on the front line.
    We talk about the 11 million domestic cats in the UK and the 100 million wild animals they kill each year. The mysterious lynx release in the Cairngorms in January 2025. Whether "beaver bombers" should be celebrated or condemned. And what Pete would do if he had a magic wand to fix the system.
    The post-interview chat between Tom and Chloe gets properly unpacked on the moral case for reintroductions, the sheep farmer's perspective, and whether logic or culture should lead.
    About the guest
    Pete Cairns has spent thirty years working on rewilding communications and engagement, with a particular focus on the human-wildlife fault line. He co-founded SCOTLAND: The Big Picture and served as its CEO until 2025. He now works independently and hosts the podcast At the Edge, a deep dive into our relationship with wild nature and each other.
    Find Pete on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/petercairnsphoto Listen to At the Edge: attheedge.org.uk
    Chapters
    00:00 - Welcome and what is the Wilder Podcast
    01:55 - Project update: the community day
    04:22 - Thanks to Katya and Hannah in the market garden
    05:09 - Pigs escaping again
    06:38 - Why we're talking to Pete
    07:10 - Pete's introduction and 30 years in the rewilding conversation
    10:07 - What is a wildcat, and how did Scotland nearly lose them
    12:22 - Why the wildcat decline went unnoticed for so long
    15:00 - The elephant in the room: 11 million domestic cats and 100 million wild animals
    18:05 - Cats are hardwired, not killing for fun 22:02 - The principles of species reintroduction, from sea eagles to today
    24:16 - Beavers, wolves and the feeling that reintroductions are "done to" rural communities
    26:00 - Lynx to Scotland vs The Missing Lynx Project: two regulatory bodies, two processes
    28:35 - Selling the benefits, hearing the concerns, and the sheep predation reality
    31:30 - "Just pay the farmer" is a dangerous narrative 32:20 - What does success even look like
    35:14 - The shortage of skilled navigators in conservation
    35:54 - The illegal lynx release in the Cairngorms, January 2025
    38:15 - Beaver bombers and the guerrilla rewilding question
    40:16 - If Pete could redesign the system, what would it look like
    43:04 - What one listener can actually do: voice, vote, money
    45:04 - Is wildcat reintroduction a success
    48:07 - Pete's sign-off and where to find At the Edge
    48:42 - Tom and Chloe debrief: cats, sheep farmers, and the moral argument
    59:24 - The ripple effect of wild landscapes on culture
    Key takeaways
    Species reintroduction is no longer a practical problem. The science and the techniques exist. The challenge now is social, cultural and political: how do we live alongside species we have not shared the landscape with for generations.
    The UK is one of the only countries in Europe with no large carnivores, and one of the only countries anywhere. The question is not whether it is ecologically possible. It is whether we will.
    The "just pay the farmer" line misses the point. Farmers are motivated by financial considerations, but also by tradition, family history, animal welfare and a sense of place. None of those things have a price tag.
    Lynx to Scotland is the most comprehensive consultation a reintroduction has ever had in this country. Whether it ultimately leads to a release or not, the process itself has reset the standard.
    The illegal lynx release in the Cairngorms in January 2025 was, in Pete's words, "plain stupid". But it advanced the conversation. There is a sweet spot somewhere between an illicit release and a process that takes 15 years.
    Mediating these conversations is a specialist skill, and there is a real shortage of people who can do it well. Most conservation organisations cannot mediate their own debates because they wear a badge.
    Domestic cats kill an estimated 100 million wild animals in the UK every year. Not a judgement on cat ownership, but a call for informed choice.
    Resources and links mentioned
    Organisations
    SCOTLAND: The Big Picture: scotlandbigpicture.com
    Royal Zoological Society of Scotland (RZSS): rzss.org.uk
    Saving Wildcats project: savingwildcats.co.uk
    Highland Wildlife Park: highlandwildlifepark.org.uk
    Lynx to Scotland: lynxtoscotland.org
    Trees for Life: treesforlife.org.uk
    The Lifescape Project: lifescapeproject.org
    NatureScot: nature.scot
    Natural England: gov.uk/government/organisations/natural-england
    RSPB: rspb.org.uk
    Buglife: buglife.org.uk
    Rewilding Britain: rewildingbritain.org.uk

    Referenced in the episode
    Pete's new podcast, At the Edge: attheedge.org.uk
    The Scottish Code for Conservation Translocations: nature.scot/professional-advice/safeguarding-protected-areas-and-species/translocation
    Iberian Lynx programme (the model Saving Wildcats is based on)

    Come and stay with us
    Our off-grid cabins are open and our guests this weekend told us the same thing many listeners do when they arrive: the photos do not do it justice. If you have been following the podcast and want to experience the Grange Project in person, the cabins are bookable now.
    Visit grangeproject.co.uk and click "Stay with us" in the top right corner.
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    Ep. 053: Who Really Wins and Loses in the Food System? With Sue Pritchard

    22/04/2026 | 1h 6 mins.
    The invisible forces shaping what you eat, why they stay hidden, and what it actually takes to change them.
    Sue Pritchard is CEO of the Food, Farming and Countryside Commission (FFCC) and a farmer just down the road from us in Monmouthshire. In this episode she lays out exactly how the modern food system works, who benefits, who pays the price, and why the polite assumption that "people just want cheap food" is one of the most damaging myths in British public life.
    We go into the ABCD commodity giants most people have never heard of, the three forces reshaping our plates (commodified, consolidated, financialised), the citizens' assemblies that proved the political class has been misreading the public for decades, and why Sue thinks it might finally be time to bring back the word shame.
    This was one of those conversations where a missing piece of the puzzle dropped into place. Not cheery in places, but clarifying and energising.

    In this episode:
    What we actually mean by "the food system" and why the definition matters
    The ABCD companies: the four private firms (plus one Chinese state company) that control over 80% of global commodity trade
    Why Cargill's profits jumped 27% while the rest of us absorbed food price spikes
    Commodified, consolidated, financialised: the three words that explain how we got here
    Who's really losing: farmers on below real-living-wage incomes, citizens paying twice (at the till and through their taxes), and our public health
    The assumptions keeping the system stuck: "people only want cheap food", "nobody wants a nanny state", "this is a middle-class concern"
    What happened when FFCC actually asked people what they want from food (spoiler: the response rate was five times the norm)
    The role of anger, and why Rowan Williams called it the "appropriate emotional response"
    Rutger Bregman, shame, and whether it is time to make certain jobs socially unacceptable again
    Finding your lane: why we do not all have to do everything everywhere all at once
    The "What Works Here?" inquiries and the stories of hope already on the ground

    Approximate timestamps:
    00:00 - Welcome & Introduction
    05:00 - Farm Start with Rachel Hammond (starts next month, places still available)
    06:00 - Community Day, 16 May, plus the screening of the People's Emergency Briefing
    08:20 - Introducing Sue Pritchard
    09:30 - What the FFCC is and why it was set up after Brexit
    12:30 - What we actually mean by "the food system"
    18:30 - The winners: ABCD companies, Cargill, the Amazon, and chicken sheds in the Wye Valley
    24:00 - The losers: farmers, citizens, public health
    26:20 - The assumptions that keep the system stuck
    28:45 - Sue "spits the dummy" and launches the citizens' assemblies
    36:30 - Anger, Rowan Williams, and what to do with it
    42:45 - Bregman, shame, and raising the social cost of harm
    44:30 - Working inside the system: the conversations that actually move people
    49:20 - Where hope already lives: the "What Works Here?" inquiries
    54:30 - Tom and Chloe unpack it: invisible winners, shame, food security, and the search for brave leadership
    Sue's best lines
    "Perhaps anger is the appropriate emotional response to the degree of injustice that we are finally seeing."
    "How do we tell the stories of the future that is already coming to life all around us? It's just not evenly distributed and it's not visible enough."
    "Don't do bad things and don't be a dick. Those would be my missions for government."
    Links and resources mentioned in this episode
    Sue Pritchard and FFCC
    Food, Farming and Countryside Commission: https://ffcc.co.uk
    The Food Conversation: https://thefoodconversation.uk
    FFCC's overview of The Food Conversation and Citizen Mandate: https://ffcc.co.uk/so-what-do-we-really-want-from-food

    People and works referenced
    Henry Dimbleby's National Food Strategy: https://www.nationalfoodstrategy.org
    Rutger Bregman's 2025 BBC Reith Lectures, Moral Revolution: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00729d9
    Rutger Bregman, Moral Ambition: https://www.moralambition.org
    Nate Hagens, The Great Simplification: https://www.thegreatsimplification.com
    Hodmedod's (Josiah Meldrum): https://hodmedods.co.uk
    Rowan Williams, former Archbishop of Canterbury and former Bishop of Monmouth

    Things growing at the Grange right now
    The Grange Project: https://grangeproject.co.uk
    Wilder Podcast (Episode 52 is the full Grange update): https://grangeproject.co.uk/podcast/three-years-in-the-honest-truth-about-rewilding-80-acres
    Events, including Community Day on 16 May with the People's Emergency Briefing screening: https://grangeproject.co.uk/events
    Farm Start with Rachel Hammond and other courses: https://grangeproject.co.uk/events/farmstart-a-six-day-hands-on-course-for-people-ready-to-earn-from-growing-food-with-rachel-hammond
    Wales Seed Hub (Hwb Hadau Cymru): https://www.seedhub.wales
    Real Seeds: https://realseeds.co.uk

    The National Emergency Briefing / People's Emergency Briefing
    National Emergency Briefing: https://www.nebriefing.org
    Find a local screening: https://www.nebriefing.org/screening-map

    If this episode moved you
    The one thing that genuinely helps us is a rating and review wherever you listen. It nudges the podcast up the rankings and puts it in front of people who might benefit from it too.
    If you want to come and experience any of this in person, the Community Day on 16 May is the easiest way in. Walk the land, get your hands in the soil, share food, watch the People's Emergency Briefing with people who are paying attention. All links above.
    Until the next one.
    Tom and Chloe
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    Ep. 052: Three Years In: The Honest Truth About Rewilding 80 Acres

    26/03/2026 | 1h 12 mins.
    No guest this week. Just Tom and Chloe with a drink, a lot to catch up on, and roughly an hour to get through it all.
    It's been 18 months since the last proper project update and quite a lot has happened. 4,000 trees planted. A tiny forest that nearly died twice and is now over six feet tall. A market garden. A distillery in the barn. A charity. Four schools through the gate in one week. And an otter, which felt significant.
    This is the third update episode - episode 9 was the start, episode 29 was one year in. This one's the most honest of the three.
    What We Cover
    Restoring More Nature
    The trees, the dragon's nests, and what happens when you prepare the ground properly
    Why the tiny forest survived a drought, deer, and voles - and is now extraordinary
    The wood meadow: a rare habitat, hand-scythed by the community, and why it matters
    The pond that failed, then gave us house martins, a kestrel, and an otter
    The pig situation (it got complicated)
    The cow debate: October, says Chloe. Tom is less sure
    Breeding birds: double the species recorded between 2024 and 2025
    Naturfa Pathway: one of four sites selected across Wales by the Welsh Government

    Producing More Food
    From silage grassland to 50-100+ varieties of fruit and veg - and why that matters for food security
    The cathedral polytunnel, the duck pond, the new orchard, and chickens planned for under the trees
    Courses launching this summer: market gardening, agroforestry, mushroom growing, seed saving and more
    What it actually means when the food you grew feeds the people who came to help grow it

    Contributing to the Local Economy
    From two tractor drivers twenty days a year to six people working on site
    Wilder Spirits: pre-orders open 2 April. The first spirit distilled on a rewilding site in Wales, in a paper bottle
    Platform Nature: 20 founding partners from Wildlife Trusts to a koala sanctuary in Australia
    The Grange Hub, Wilder Away Days, and why Tom talks about money on a nature podcast
    Revenue transparency: what the first six months actually generated

    Connecting More People to Wilder Nature
    Wilder Connections charity: Chloe's co-design phase with schools across Monmouthshire
    What happened when a group of teenagers asked if they could hug a tree
    Monthly open days: selling out a month in advance
    Hopes for the rest of 2026 - and why Tom wants everyone to slow down a little

    Timestamps
    00:00 - Tom's opening confession
    01:31 - What we said on episode 29, and how much has changed
    05:44 - The four pillars explained
    07:04 - 28,000 listeners, 125 countries, and someone in Cape Town saving for their own rewilding site
    07:53 - PILLAR 1: Restoring More Nature
    08:12 - 4,000+ trees, dragon's nests, and the saplings finally breaking through
    10:43 - Tiny Forest: 98% survival, over six feet tall, future outdoor classroom
    13:59 - Hedgerows: planted, lost to drought, replanted
    15:36 - Wood Meadow: what it is, why it's rare, and a lot of hand-scything
    18:44 - Deer: why culling became unavoidable, and the experiment with over-planting
    22:24 - The pond that collapsed - and then gave us house martins, a kestrel and an otter
    26:39 - Voles everywhere, and what doubling bird species in one year actually means
    27:13 - Pigs: what went wrong, what's coming next, and the ecological case for them
    31:21 - The cow debate
    33:54 - Welsh Rewilding Alliance: founding members
    34:02 - Naturfa Pathway: recognised by the Welsh Government
    35:05 - PILLAR 2: Producing More Food
    35:37 - How a market garden ended up being run by the people who said they wouldn't run it
    37:47 - Ducks, chickens, and the orchard
    41:54 - 50-100+ varieties: why growing diversity is also food security
    43:29 - From least to most efficient food production on the same land
    44:33 - PILLAR 3: Contributing to the Local Economy
    44:33 - Wilder Spirits: the distillery, the story, the paper bottle, 2 April
    47:13 - Mark, Sandy, and why six people working on site matters
    48:18 - Platform Nature: what it is, who's using it, and where it's going
    52:31 - The Grange Hub: opened by the Future Generations Commissioner
    53:13 - Wilder Away Days: NHS to corporate
    55:23 - Why talking about money is part of the project
    56:38 - Cabins: off Airbnb, direct only, and why that was the right call
    57:34 - Revenue transparency: the real numbers from the first six months
    58:39 - PILLAR 4: Connecting More People to Wilder Nature
    58:58 - Wilder Connections: what the charity is, and why Chloe built it
    01:01:11 - Four schools in one week
    01:02:01 - Teenagers, sticks, and what co-design actually looks like
    01:04:10 - The oak tree moment
    01:05:38 - Open days: what they are, and why April sold out a month early
    01:06:35 - Hopes for the rest of 2026
    Links and Resources
    The Grange Project
    grangeproject.co.uk
    Wilder Spirits - pre-orders open 2 April 2026
    wilderspirits.co.uk
    Wilder Connections - Chloe's charity for nature connection in young people
    wilderconnections.charity
    Wilder Away Days - nature-centred corporate experiences
    wilderawaydays.co.uk
    Platform Nature - tools for nature restoration projects
    platformnature.com
    Leave Curious - Rob's rewilding YouTube channel (120,000 subscribers)
    https://www.youtube.com/@CuriousLeave
    Dayhike Magazine - the magazine Tom said had him turning every page
    dayhike.co.uk
    Book an open day or open morning at the Grange Project
    grangeproject.co.uk
    Previous Update Episodes
    Episode 9 - Building the Ultimate Mosaic: A Grange Project Update
    https://www.grangeproject.co.uk/wilder-podcast/ep-009-building-the-ultimate-mosaic-a-grange-projectnbspupdate
    Episode 29 - Failure and Success: 12 Months of Rewilding at the Grange Project
    https://www.grangeproject.co.uk/wilder-podcast/ep-029-failure-and-success-12-months-of-rewilding-at-the-grange-project

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    Ep. 051: WTF is the Polycrisis and why should I care?

    11/03/2026 | 1h 1 mins.
    In this conversation, we update you on two big milestones for the Grange Project, the launch of the Welsh Rewilding Alliance and our OECM recognition, before sitting down with Professor Mike Berners‑Lee.
    We ask Mike to explain the polycrisis: how climate change, biodiversity loss, pollution, food insecurity and geopolitical instability are all interlinked. Mike helps us see why recycling alone won’t cut it: plastics are produced almost entirely from fossil fuels, their emissions could eat up a large chunk of the remaining carbon budget and their additives disrupt hormones.
    We also talk about why technology by itself isn’t enough, how misinformation slows progress and what practical steps we can all take-like switching to trustworthy media and supporting a national information campaign to wake up and act.
    Episode journey:
    [00:05] Introduction and mission. We open the show by explaining why we started the Wilder Podcast: to share our learning about rewilding and the wider forces shaping our world. We remind listeners that we created the Grange Project two and a half years ago to restore nature, grow food, support eco‑businesses and reconnect people with land.
    [02:24] Two big updates. We proudly announce the launch of the Welsh Rewilding Alliance and its report A Welsh Way to Wild. We also share that the Grange Project has been recognised by the Welsh Government as an OECM, a big step in confirming that our land management has rigorous governance and real biodiversity benefits.
    [07:08] Introducing Professor Mike Berners‑Lee. We explain how we first encountered Mike’s work-reading There Is No Planet B inspired us to buy the farm and start the Grange Project. Mike introduces himself as a professor, consultant and author.
    [11:09] What is the polycrisis? Mike explains that the polycrisis is a tangle of interconnected challenges driven by humanity’s unprecedented power. He emphasises that disasters like pandemics and wars no longer happen in isolation; their severity comes from the cascading effects they unleash. For us, it was eye‑opening to see how our economic and political systems amplify these stresses.
    [16:58] Examples of cascading crises. We discuss real‑world examples: the COVID‑19 pandemic and the war in Ukraine amplifying food and energy crises. Mike highlights that plastic production has boomed since the 1950s and plastics are a major source of emissions and endocrine disruption. It reinforced for us how everything is connected.
    [20:43] Wake‑up call and the National Emergency Briefing. Mike tells us about the National Emergency Briefing in Westminster, where experts covered nine dimensions of the crisis from health and food to national security and no one thought the situation was exaggerated. We both feel this shows how widely the severity of the crisis is recognised and why we need national action.
    [23:05] Misinformation and media ownership. We explore how misinformation is blocking progress. Mike challenges the narratives that climate action will leave us poorer and colder, and explains how social‑media algorithms spread disinformation. We urge you to choose trustworthy news sources and recognise manipulation.
    [29:14] Techno‑optimism vs. systemic change. Mike says that simply scaling up renewables isn’t enough. He points out that although renewable capacity has grown massively, fossil energy use has also climbed, so overall emissions keep rising. That’s why systemic measures like carbon pricing and fossil‑fuel constraints are critical.
    [33:35] Human psychology and leadership. Together we discuss why people aren’t inherently selfish. Neuroscience and social history suggest we can cultivate cooperation and empathy. Mike encourages us to seek leaders who are kind and honest, and we talk about the courage it takes to speak up and push for change.
    [47:19] Calls to action. We finish by encouraging you to sign the letter at nebriefing.org, host local screenings of the briefing film and start conversations in your community. Mike notes that facing these issues head‑on feels liberating, we felt it too.
    [49:05] Host reflections. After the interview, we reflect on our own nerves and gratitude for Mike’s clarity. We discuss doing a mini‑series on the individual crises and debate whether information alone prompts action. We conclude that people need both facts and relatable stories of hopeful change.
    About the guest:
    We were honoured to speak with Mike Berners‑Lee, a professor at Lancaster University and founder of Small World Consulting. He advises organisations on sustainability and wrote There Is No Planet B and A Climate of Truth. Mike is known for making complex issues accessible and for advocating systemic solutions to interlinked crises.
    Resources and links:
    National Emergency Briefing – A national information briefing on the climate and nature crisis with expert videos, action guides and community‑screening resources. Learn more at https://nebriefing.org.
    The Welsh Way to Wild report – The Welsh Rewilding Alliance’s report sets out a practical vision for rewilding in Wales. Download the report at https://rewildingalliance.cymru/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/Welsh-Rewilding-Alliance-Report-2026.pdf.
    Small World Consulting – Mike Berners‑Lee’s consultancy helps organisations understand sustainability challenges and thrive in a volatile world. Visit https://www.sw-consulting.co.uk.
    There Is No Planet B – Mike Berners‑Lee’s handbook on climate, biodiversity and practical solutions. Learn more and find retailers at https://theresnoplanetb.net .
    A Climate of Truth – Mike’s latest book explores honesty in politics, media and business as a critical lever for tackling the polycrisis. Details and purchase links are at https://climateoftruth.co.uk.
    National Emergency Briefing open letter – Add your name to the open letter calling for a televised national emergency briefing at https://nebriefing.org/open-letter-keir.
    Screw This, Let’s Try Something Else – A hopeful podcast featuring community-led projects that are changing food, energy and housing systems. Listen on Apple Podcasts at https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/screw-this-lets-try-something-else/id1863391095.
    The Grange Project – Our own rewilding project in Monmouthshire, where we experiment with nature restoration, food growing and eco‑business. Learn more at https://grangeproject.co.uk.

    Why this episode matters
    As rewilders, we see how climate change, biodiversity loss, pollution, public health and social instability are woven together. This episode shows that tackling one issue in isolation isn’t enough we need to change the systems that drive multiple crises and challenge misinformation. By combining big‑picture analysis with concrete steps, from signing a letter to choosing better media, we hope to inspire you to join us in building a more hopeful, resilient future.
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About Wilder Podcast
Chloe is a clinical psychologist. Tom is a former British Army officer. In 2023 they bought 80 acres of intensive farmland in rural Monmouthshire and started rewilding it. The Wilder Podcast is the conversation that came next, and it has grown beyond the land. Every fortnight, we talk to the people thinking seriously about the systems we have built, and the ones we need next. Rewilding scientists and conservation founders. Regenerative farmers and food security experts. Economists, ecologists, psychologists, community builders, the occasional well-placed contrarian. The connecting thread is simple: a culture disconnected from nature is at the root of the polycrisis, and reconnection is the foundation for almost everything else. Alongside the interviews we share the honest version of our own journey at the Grange Project. The wins, the false starts, and the muddy reality of trying to turn a former silage farm into a mosaic of habitats, with no formal background in ecology. Topics range across rewilding and nature recovery, food systems and resilience, the economics of land, community and connection, and the mental health case for time spent wilder. Chloe brings a clinical psychology lens to all of it. Tom brings the questions of someone building it in real time. What you get: evidence-led conversations on nature, systems and wellbeing, and a clear-eyed look at what is actually working right now.
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