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Standing at the heart of the City of London, the Monument is one of the capital's most familiar landmarks, yet few pause to consider the extraordinary story it tells. In this episode, we climb beyond its elegant Portland stone column to explore the catastrophe that inspired it, the ambitions of the men who designed it, and the remarkable city that emerged from the ashes of the Great Fire of 1666.
In the spirit of Your Places or Mine, this is a conversation as much about people as it is about architecture. Together, we trace the Monument's place in London's landscape, examining how Sir Christopher Wren and Robert Hooke combined science, symbolism and classical design to create a memorial that is at once a work of art, a scientific instrument and a statement of national resilience.
Along the way, we reflect on the bustling streets that surround it today, uncover forgotten details hidden in plain sight, and consider why this slender column continues to shape our understanding of London's past. What does it reveal about the city's appetite for reinvention? How has its meaning changed over three and a half centuries? And why does climbing its 311 steps remain one of the most rewarding ways to experience the capital?
Rich in architectural insight, historical anecdote and thoughtful conversation, this episode invites listeners to look again at a landmark they may think they know. The Monument is far more than a memorial to disaster: it is a testament to ingenuity, endurance and the enduring relationship between place, history and the people who continue to bring London's story to life.

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As a great expert on the English castle, John has been thinking about one of the great icons of England: Warwick Castle.  This extraordinary building, created over centuries, has come down to us intact, not having been slighted after the Civil War in the 17th century – something exceptional. Equally remarkable is the mythology that surrounds the place, including the medieval legends attached to Guy of Warwick, after whom one of the castle’s famous towers is named.  Although Guy may never have existed, his story was revered by the Earls of Warwick as their foundation myth.  In an attempt to contain the Earl of the day, Henry I took away a portion of his earldom from the Earl of the day and bestowed it on a favourite, who built Kennilworth Castle, only five miles away.   The result was a rivalry that lasted through the Middle Ages, which was conclusively ended when Kennilworth was reduced to the ruin that it is now.
Founded by William the Conqueror, when travelling to Yorkshire to inflict the vengeful punishment known as the Harrying of the North, Warwick Castle occupied a powerful position at the heart of the country, overlooking the river Avon.  The 16th Earl of Warwick became known as  Warwick the Kingmaker, from his ability to tilt the scales of the Wars of the Roses in favour of the side he supported at the time.  Later centuries associated Warwick Castle with the England of Shakespeare, who was born in Warwickshire.  It was arguably the first building to have been copied in recognisable form during the early Gothic Revival.  
A visit to Warwick Castle still stirs the imagination.  Listen to John’s account and you’ll see it with fresh eyes.

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Clive has taken the riverboat to Greenwich, one of the most spectacular sites of London.  ‘Good Duke’ Humphrey, brother of Henry V, built a retreat here in the 15th century, which Henry VII developed into a palace.  This was where Henry VIII jousted in his early years, and where his armour was made.  To the early Stuarts Greenwich’s was important from its position at the mouth of the Thames: this was where foreign ambassadors landed on their way to the court: Inigo began a revolutionary building for James I’s Queen, Anne of Denmark, and finished it for Henrietta Maria who was married to Charles I.  The Queen’s House, as this structure became known, was where Charles kept some of the best of his art collection – alas, dispersed by the Civil War. 
After the palace was roughly treated after the Civil War, it was earmarked to become once more a palace for Charles II.  He succeeded in building only one block before the money ran out.   Instead of a palace, the Royal Observatory arose at the top of a hill, as a place to study the heavens away from the smoke that was already obscuring the skies of London.  The terrible carnage of the Dutch wars of the 1660s and 1670s, fought at sea, touched the heart of the future Queen Mary, who would ascend the throne with her husband William III, Prince of Orange.  As a result, Greenwich became home to the Royal Naval Hospital, in a magnificent parade of buildings designed by Sir Christopher Wren.  They include the Painted Hall, a masterpiece of the artist Sir James Thornhill, and a chapel that was redecorated in the 1780s by James ‘Athenian’ Stuart after a fire.   The complex that Vanbrugh built for his family on Maze Hill, next to Greenwich Park, also survives.
.A generation ago, Greenwich – no longer a hospital but a naval college – was difficult for the public to see. Now it houses a university and a music school, and a dazzling restoration of the Painted Hall has proved, literally, a revelation – previously invisible details have been brought to light, such as the figure of Louis XIV who appears beneath William III’s foot in the ceiling.  John is as much enraptured as Clive.

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Doddington Hall in Lincolnshire is one of those country houses you find only in Britain.  The attics are full of old toys, military headgear, unwanted commodes and a giant figure of the White Rabbit, left over from an Alice in Wonderland-themed event.  A collection of Roman antiquities, some found on the estate, is displayed in the downstairs lavatory, along with a child’s pedal-operated aeroplane with patriotic RAF roundels.  From the roof, you can see Lincoln cathedral on a good day.  Built around 1600, Doddington has hardly been changed outside, and in half a millennium, it has never been sold.
Best of all are the tapestries.   Due to the antiquarian tastes of its 18th-century owner John Hussey Delaval, the Georgian revamp was old-fashioned for the 1760s, and included bedrooms close-hung with tapestries in the manner of the William and Mary era.  The Doddington tapestries are now a rare survival, although not perhaps for the reason that might be imagined.  They are not of the first quality, but relatively workaday– and which is exactly the sort that have most commonly perished.  
Clive and John are both enthralled by this house, which – thanks to the conversation of the stables to a shopping experience – is going through something of a golden age.   It was where Clive first rode an electric bike.

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In this episode of Your Places or Mine, Clive Aslet and John Goodall cross the Atlantic to explore Woodlawn, one of Austin, Texas's most intriguing historic neighbourhoods. Nestled beneath a canopy of venerable oaks, Woodlawn tells a distinctly American story of growth, aspiration and architectural invention. From its early twentieth-century origins to its rich collection of bungalows, cottages and revival-style houses, the district offers a fascinating lens through which to view the development of a modern city that has never quite lost sight of its past.
As they wander its leafy streets, Clive and John consider the people who shaped the neighbourhood, the architectural influences that found their way to central Texas, and the enduring appeal of places designed at a human scale. Along the way, they reflect on the relationship between landscape and architecture, preservation and progress, and the subtle qualities that turn a collection of houses into a community.
Join them for a journey through one of Austin's hidden treasures—a place where history lingers beneath the trees and every street corner has a story to tell.