The 4 Eyes Podcast

After a few months of radio silence following on from a busy season, team Wooly are back for a special edition podcast, reflecting on Father's Day. While on route to Heathrow at 3.30AM, Cath and Dai reflect on the journey so far - the process of grief, the anniversary days and Dai reflecting on missing Dad, and longing to be a Dad.
Cath and Dai also share how Father's Day  also happens to be the 1 year anniversary of Bear Woolridge's due date. 

"As raw as some of the conversation are, the process of processing together has been a lament that journeys to hope, and we pray it is for you also. We are incredibly blessed to have two superstar guests and friends feature on this pod with creative contributions that speak and sing hope into the grief baked holes.  Philippa Hanna joins Dai as they share a spoken word / song collab  'Dad shaped holes', and Jessie Dipper offers a beautiful sung lament, which she wrote as a response to the 4 eyes podcast 'Due Date' last year."

"As ever, the heartfelt  our convos are littered with faith chats, impromptu welsh hymns, and Team Wooly silliness. May they bring a smile to your face and be like balm for your soul."
Cath and Dai x
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0 - 6 min - Silliness, Starbucks and Ron Kenole references
6 min 18 - Wooly news - pod silence
23 min - I bob un on the severn bridge
26 min - Father’s Day chat
29 min - 36 min - SONG SPOKEN WORD COLLAB - 'Dad shaped holes' - feat. Dai and Philippa Hanna 

37 min - Reflecting on Bear's due date
55 min - Jessie Dipper’s response song to Cath’s poem of lament
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Join Cath and Dai for their first 4 Eyes Wooly Pod of 2024, with heartfelt reflections on the in-between journey through Christmas and New year, with a dash of silliness and new feature 'Gary giggles?'

0-12 mins - Wooly News
12 - 16.30 mins - Pet Peeves
16.30 - 22.18 mins - Rhythms of Hope/ giveaway
22.18 min - 25.30 Gary giggles?
25.30 - 43 mins - Reflections on the in-between journey at Christmas and new year
43 mins - Pause Poem from Cath
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It's been another key marker in Cath and Dai's grief journey this week, as they reflect on what would've been their baby's due date.  Cath shares openly her 'what if' questions, and a raw yet beautiful poem she wrote in light of this recent week.
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In this episode Cath and Dai chat around Fathers day. Often a blessed time for many, but also a tough time for others, Dai reflects on both the loss of his Dad 10 years ago, and recently the loss of their child through miscarriage.

With Pet Peeves, Proverb Pondering, Poems, Pause and Prayer, the Wooly's chat through the nature of loss, lament and the in-between, and how grief can be both an expected and un-expected visitor.

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Pod timings...
1.28 - Wooly news
17.06 - Pet Peeves
23.30 - Proverbs pondering
27.30 - Father’s Day 
39 - POEM - Dad shaped holes
48 - POEM - like, love and sad face emoji
57 - PAUSE - A Father Son tribute
1.01 - Benediction - A Father’s Day prayer 
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Cath and Dai reflect on the in-between of Good Friday and Resurrection Sunday - Easter Saturday. Many of us feel like we're still in the Easter Saturday of life, where things didn't go the way we expected, where we struggle to cling on to hope, where we feel in the messy middle. Yet we hold on, because no matter what awaits us, we have hope - because Sunday's coming. 

0-10 min Intro and reflection on Easter Saturday || 16.30 - the 7 week scan || 19.30 - PIECE - SONG 'It just don't make sense' || 46min - PET PEEVES || 52 min - PIECE - SPOKEN WORD - 'Anchor of my soul'
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