The Go To Food Podcast

This week, The Go-To Food Podcast closes out the year inside one of London’s most talked-about dining rooms. Recorded at Café Cecilia on the canals of Hackney, the episode finds hosts Ben and Phil sitting down with chef owner Max Rocha at the height of Christmas service. It is warm, chaotic, funny and deeply human, the sound of a restaurant in motion as one of Britain’s most influential young chefs reflects on how he got here. Rocha speaks with striking honesty about his journey through Spring, River Cafe and St. John, and the mentors who shaped him, particularly the late Skye Gyngell. He unpacks how Café Cecilia exploded from a modest, family-run opening into one of the hardest tables to secure in the country, without PR, without hype chasing, and without compromising on food that is rooted in simplicity, seasonality and care. This is a masterclass in building something quietly exceptional, one plate at a time. The conversation goes far beyond the pass. Rocha opens up about burnout, addiction and the pressure of sudden success, describing how sobriety and exercise quite literally saved his life and his restaurant. He talks about rewriting kitchen culture, setting boundaries, banning hangovers, and creating an environment where young chefs can learn properly, from butchery to bread, rather than just survive service. It is one of the most candid discussions of mental health in hospitality you will hear this year. Along the way, there is food, a lot of it. Guinness bread and butter, fritti with anchovy and sage, deep fried bread and butter pudding, big steaks, Dublin restaurants worth travelling for, and the dish Rocha would put in the Go-To Hall of Fame. Thoughtful, generous and quietly profound, this episode is a fitting end to the year and essential listening for anyone who cares about cooking, creativity and staying human in a brutal industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Part 2 of our conversation with the legendary Mark Hix is here and it is absolutely packed. This episode dives deep into the roaring early days of the Ivy, the madcap menu development, the cult dishes, the shepherd's pie that became a national obsession, and the wild creativity that defined a generation of London dining. If you care about how modern British cooking was shaped, this chapter with Mark is essential listening.We pick up right where the chaos and brilliance left off. Mark takes us inside the culinary revolution that lifted Britain out of its prawn cocktail fog, the rise of the gastropub, his unlikely journey into food writing, and the unfiltered truth behind working with giants like Corbin and King. There are stories here that have never been told quite like this, from scooter dashes between dining rooms to the menu decisions that still echo across the industry.And of course, Mark opens up about striking out on his own and building a restaurant empire at full tilt. The risks, the rush, the mistakes, the insane highs, the legendary parties, the kitchen tales that feel almost mythic. He talks candidly about advice for young restaurateurs, about what British food has become, and even about the infamous final lunch of Keith Floyd which led to one of the most talked about menu tributes in London.This episode is Mark Hix in full flight. Honest. Hilarious. Fiercely passionate. Brilliantly unapologetic. So settle in and enjoy the ride. And if you are listening on Apple, Spotify or YouTube, take two seconds to leave us a comment and subscribe. It really helps us grow the show. Thank you for supporting the Go To Food Podcast brought to you by Blinq, the greatest POS system in the world. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mark Hix’s Part 1 is basically a greatest hits album of British restaurant stories, told by the bloke who lived them. From boozy late nights at the Groucho with Richard Corrigan, to being Tonksed at 3 a.m, the episode opens in full chaos mode. From there, you get deep into the London years. Hix walks us through the Ivy, the Caprice, Scott’s and J Sheekey, the creation of dishes like the crispy duck and watercress salad that started life as pork, and a black ink risotto that made Jonathan Meades sit up and take notice. He tells the story of Challenge Hix in the Tram Shed kitchen library, where head chefs cooked against him under a 30 minute clock, and the rules were simple: no more than three main ingredients on the plate and a menu line that actually tells you how a dish is cooked. His disgust at the modern “ingredient, comma, ingredient, comma, ingredient” menu gets a full, glorious rant.The episode is packed with the kind of stuff chefs whisper about. Mark remembers the days when critics like A. A. Gill, Faye Maschler and Jonathan Meades could make or break a restaurant, from rave reviews to absolute shockers. He talks about Gill slagging off the Tram Shed, texting him mid review over oyster details, and the surreal moment he opened a Sunday paper to see his cookbook recipes lined up against Gordon Ramsay’s pub dishes in a double page spread. There are tales of the Rivington Grill as a near empty bar that had to “rent a crowd” of Shoreditch artists, his art-for-food deals, and the moment he texted Damien Hirst for a sculpture and ended up with a giant cow and chicken in formaldehyde at the heart of Tram Shed.Underneath the mischief there is a harder story too. Hix talks about growing up in Bridport, watching his grandfather run the local pub and paint business, getting steered into catering college by a family friend, and grinding through the Hilton staff canteen, the Grosvenor House and the Dorchester before landing at the Caprice. He also begins to lift the lid on the brutal side of restaurant ownership, from insane London rents to the moment his business partners put his restaurants into administration two days before lockdown, leaving him to stand in Tram Shed and tell 130 staff they no longer had jobs. It is funny, furious, nostalgic and very human. Part 1 feels like sitting at the bar with Mark Hix while he finally tells you how it all really happened.-------- Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode we sit down with Carl McCluskey, the quietly obsessive mastermind behind Crisp, the cult London pizzeria that has gone from a backstreet Hammersmith pub to one of the most sought after tables in the city. Carl walks us through the whirlwind first three weeks of his new Marlborough site and the sheer graft behind bringing a tiny pop up operation into a polished, high pressure restaurant setting. From staff struggles and stretching stations held together with rope to finally stepping into a dream kitchen, it is a rare look at the leap from local hero to full scale powerhouse.Carl breaks down the craft behind his pizzas, including the infamous Vecna, born by accident during a chaotic Halloween party when he grabbed hot honey and burrata as a last minute experiment. He shares the Reddit conspiracies about his secret hydration levels, the ongoing myth that his dough sits in trays, and why he refuses to reveal the tiny tweaks that make Crisp different. He explains how his cousin Pedro became the best oven man in the world, how the team makes up to forty litres of hot honey a week, and why scaling too fast would destroy the magic.The conversation turns to the business side, where Carl opens up about the heartbreak of leaving the original Hammersmith pub after impossible lease demands from Stonegate. He tells the wild stories that came with success, from seven hour queues to customers offering a thousand pounds in cash for a table. He recalls the day Dave Portnoy’s 8.1 review changed everything, the surreal moment an American number rang asking for margaritas, and the sudden global spike in calls from fans desperate to try his pizza. There is also the now legendary saga of the toilet graffiti that became a t-shirt, a Wi-Fi code, and a small legal dispute.Carl’s life story threads through the episode, from his days as a semi pro footballer playing alongside the Wealdstone Raider to being raised in his nan’s old school London pub. He reveals the New York and LA inspirations behind his food, why an all day John and Vinnie's style concept could be his next move, and the places he eats on his own perfect food weekend. Honest, funny, and completely unguarded, this is Carl McCluskey at his best. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Few journeys in British food are as dramatic as that of Nathaniel Mortley, better known as Natty Can Cook. In this episode Natty takes us from being a naughty kid in Peckham to becoming one of the most exciting young chefs in the country. He opens up about the night he was stabbed at just sixteen, the trauma and anger that followed, and how those years pushed him toward the streets, knives and choices that spiralled far from the kitchen he once loved.Natty speaks candidly about losing his passion for cooking, getting arrested outside a rave in Vauxhall and receiving a five year prison sentence that could easily have ended his story. Instead, it became the turning point. He takes us inside Belmarsh and Brixton for a brutally honest look at prison life: the violence, the bullying, the humiliating controlled feeds, the strange economy of mackerel currency and the wild creativity of microwave cheffing and the legendary jail cake. His memories of the wing are gripping, raw and impossible to forget.But this episode is also about redemption through food. Inside Brixton’s Clink restaurant, Natty rebuilt his confidence, his discipline and his love of cooking while teaching men who had never set foot in a kitchen. He describes the emotional shock of returning to the same prison years later to cook a four course tasting menu for 80 diners and a team of inmates who had no idea he once slept in those cells. It is a full circle moment that hits with incredible force.Today Natty is on the Michelin radar, self funded, uncompromising and creating some of the most exciting Caribbean food in the country. From the chaos of his 200 cover soft launch to the rise of his viral Luxe Roast Challenge, from his pimento duck to his strict dress code and the unbelievable customer stories, this episode is a front row seat to a chef who fought his way back from the edge and is now aiming for history. It is powerful, emotional and completely unmissable. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.