The Divorce Podcast

Shares, crypto, business interests. Complex assets can feel like a foreign language during divorce – but with the right knowledge, they don't have to.
Kate is joined by Tom Francis, Head of Personal Finance at Octopus Money, to explore what complex assets actually are, how they're approached in a divorce settlement and how to feel confident making the most of your finances after divorce.
We talk about:
What makes an asset 'complex' – and the three levels of complexity
What can and can't be divided in a divorce settlement
What to consider when negotiating complex assets
Tips for understanding your assets and building financial confidence post-divorce
This episode is for anyone who feels overwhelmed by the financial side of divorce – and is ready to feel more in control of their future.
Meet Tom Francis
Tom is Head of Personal Finance at Octopus Money, a money advice brand for everyone. Tom spends his time designing the customer journey to deliver regulated financial advice to the many, using the best of technology and humanity. He’s a fully qualified and chartered financial planner, and before joining Octopus Money, he played a leading role in building and scaling robo-advisers in the UK, including Wealthsimple (which was later sold to Moneyfarm) and Nutmeg.
You can learn more about Octopus Money on their website. You can also hear more financial advice from Tom on the Keep the Change podcast, and follow him on Instagram for bite-sized money tips. 
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Ready to take a practical next step? 
Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation. 
You can also book a free consultation with an Octopus Money expert for specialist financial guidance alongside your separation.
Want ongoing support through separation?
Kate’s book amicable divorce includes a dedicated chapter on navigating finances during separation, including reaching financial agreements based on your real needs (not just 50/50 splits) and guidance on commonly overlooked assets like pensions. Find it on Amazon today.
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If you've ever felt guilty for putting yourself first, this episode is for you.
Kate is joined by Valerie Jones, author, coach and founder of The Selfish Woman movement, to explore what it really means to be a 'selfish woman' in divorce - and why reclaiming that word could be one of the most important things you do for yourself.
We talk about:
What being a 'selfish woman' really means – and why reclaiming it matters
How to rebuild self-trust when divorce has knocked your confidence
The moment Valerie knew it was time to leave her marriage
The difference between healthy guilt and the kind that holds you back
Why taking a moment to pause is one of the most powerful things you can do
Practical ways to start showing up for yourself again
This episode is for any woman who has ever put herself last – whether she’s in the middle of separation, still deciding or rebuilding life on the other side.
Meet Valerie Jones
Valerie Jones is the author of The Selfish Year, host of The Selfish Woman podcast, and founder of The Selfish Woman movement. Her work helps women let go of ‘good girl’ conditioning and people-pleasing, stop seeking external approval and build unapologetic self-trust. Valerie meets women exactly where they are and helps them show up for themselves, fully. 
You can learn more about Valerie on her website and buy her book The Selfish Year on Amazon. Complete Valerie's quiz to find out the hidden ways you might be sabotaging yourself. 
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Ready to take a practical next step?
Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation.
Want ongoing support as you rebuild after separation?
Kate’s book amicable divorce includes dedicated chapters on navigating the emotional journey of separation, as well as practical advice to help you through every step of the process. Find it on Amazon today.
Got a question for a future episode?
Share your thoughts at [email protected] or through direct messages on Instagram.
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You know your marriage is over. But you're still waiting – for the right moment, more certainty, or permission you're not sure will ever come. This episode is for anyone who's been circling the same question and is ready to stop waiting and start moving forward.
Kate is joined by Farhana Hussain, the UK's first divorce doula and author of She's Not Done Yet, to explore what keeps people stuck in the space between knowing their marriage is over and actually applying for divorce – and how moving forward is about choosing to become the author of your own life.
We talk about:
Farhana’s own separation story and what led her to write She’s Not Done Yet
Why people wait – even when they know what they want
Why even amicable divorces can lead to being stuck
The emotional and practical cost of delay
Decision fatigue and why divorce is never just one decision
How to stop waiting for permission and start authoring your own life
This episode is for anyone who feels like their life is on hold - and is ready to stop waiting and start moving forward.
Meet the Divorce Doula
Farhana Hussain is the UK’s first Divorce Doula, founder of the award-winning business My Divorce Doula™, and author of She’s Not Done Yet: A Divorce Doula’s Manifesto for Women Who Refuse to Stay Stuck. Farhana helps people move from circling the same question to making a clear decision they can stand behind, so they enter the divorce process grounded, prepared and able to engage constructively.
You can get in touch with Farhana through her website and you can buy her book on Amazon today.
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Ready to take a practical next step? 
Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation. 
Want ongoing support through separation?
Join amicable space for bonus podcast episodes, exclusive webinars, articles and an interactive community where you can share questions and get expert advice from amicable specialists. Start your free trial here.
Kate’s book amicable divorce includes dedicated chapters on navigating the early stages of separation, including deciding whether your relationship is over and having the separation conversation in a way that reduces shock and defensiveness. Find it on Amazon today.
Got a question for a future episode?
Share your thoughts at [email protected] or through direct messages on Instagram.
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If you’re navigating life in a stepfamily and finding the dynamics more complex than you expected, this episode offers practical guidance to help you build stronger, healthier relationships.
In this episode, Kate is joined by April Eldemire, a licensed marriage and family therapist and former stepmum, and Bec Jones, Head of Negotiation at amicable, to explore the realities of blended and stepfamily life. Together, they unpack some of the most common challenges blended families face and share thoughtful advice on how to create a more connected and supportive family environment.
We talk about:
How the 'evil stepmother' stereotype still affects stepmums today
Common challenges when creating blended families
Setting boundaries and approaching discipline in stepfamilies
How the couple’s relationship can shape stepfamily stability
Building strong relationships with stepchildren over time
This episode is for parents and step-parents building blended families, who want to approach stepfamily life with more understanding, patience and confidence.
Meet April and Bec
April Eldemire is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, former stepmum, and the creator of The Blended Family Alignment Blueprint, a framework that helps couples end power struggles and parent as a united team. While April’s own blended family didn’t last, her journey fuels her passion for helping others avoid the same mistakes she made. With over 13 years of experience specialising in stepfamily dynamics, she’s on a mission to help families replace conflict with teamwork and build homes where love can finally lead.
Having had over 10 years of experience as a divorce lawyer, Bec Jones leads amicable's Negotiation team. She played a vital role in developing the amicable process and is renowned for her empathetic approach. With expertise in child arrangements, blended families and complex finances, she is a fountain of knowledge.
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Feeling ready to take practical steps forward? 
Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation. Or explore our Separating with Children Service – a 90-minute joint session with a Co-parenting Specialist tailored to your family’s needs.
Want ongoing support through separation?
Join amicable space for bonus podcast episodes, exclusive webinars, articles and an interactive community where you can share questions and get expert advice from amicable specialists. Start your free trial here.
Got a question for a future episode?
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If you’re separating with adult children and finding it more emotionally complicated than you expected, this episode offers calm, reassuring guidance to help you navigate it with care.
In this episode, Kate shares thoughtful, practical tips for separating when your children are grown. She explores why adult children are still deeply affected by family change and how the way you handle separation now can shape your family relationships for years to come.
In this episode, Kate covers:
How to talk to your adult children about separation in a calm, respectful way
What practical conversations to have early with your ex-partner – from holidays and celebrations to future grandchildren
How kindness, clear boundaries and thoughtful planning now can support a healthier extended family long term
This episode is for parents going through separation with adult children who want to handle it with empathy, steadiness and care, while protecting the relationships that matter most.
More divorce resources
Feeling ready to take practical steps forward? 
Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation. Or explore our Separating with Children Service – a 90-minute joint session with a Co-parenting Specialist tailored to your family’s needs.
Want ongoing support through separation?
Join amicable space for bonus podcast episodes, exclusive webinars, articles and an interactive community where you can share questions and get expert advice from amicable specialists. Start your free trial here.
Kate’s book amicable divorce includes dedicated chapters on co-parenting, with practical guidance on supporting your children's wellbeing, talking to them in age-appropriate ways and building a cooperative co-parenting relationship that reduces conflict. Find it on Amazon today.
Got a question for a future episode?
Share your thoughts at [email protected] or through direct messages on Instagram.
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