The Divorce Podcast

If you're divorced and thinking about marrying again, you already know why the money conversation early on is so important. Watch the full episode on YouTube.
Kate is joined by Andrew Bowker, co-founder of wedding booking platform Wedissimo, to talk about why honest conversations about money are the foundation of any relationship – and why prenups exist to have that conversation properly, not to plan for failure.
In this episode, we cover:
Why people remarrying after divorce approach money and prenups differently
What a prenup is actually for
Why agreements like these need revisiting as life changes
Why younger generations find it easier to talk about money
This episode is for anyone remarrying after separation or divorce, or anyone who wants to have a better money conversation with their partner from the get-go
About Wedissimo
Wedissimo is a UK wedding booking platform that makes it easy for couples to find, compare and book wedding suppliers online. Since launching, Wedissimo has helped thousands of couples book everything from photographers to celebrants, giving Andrew a unique perspective on how modern couples plan their weddings and prepare for marriage.
Sources mentioned in this episode
The £26,000 average cost of getting married: Financial Times, "The wedding racket: how tying the knot became so expensive," 26 April 2025.
Generational attitudes to talking about money (baby boomers 50%, Gen Z 17% say it's vulgar to discuss): YouGov, "Is it vulgar to talk about money?"
The UK government's prenuptial agreement proposals, including the 28-day pre-wedding signing requirement: "A Fairer End to Relationships," a government consultation that ran 5 June–14 August 2026. The consultation has now closed and a government response is pending.
The UK's top 1% of households by wealth: Office for National Statistics, Wealth and Assets Survey, with a net wealth threshold of around £3.1 million (Round 8, April 2020–March 2022, published January 2025) to £3.6 million (April 2018–March 2020 round). 
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If you've ever wondered whether heartbreak gets easier with age, or just different, this episode might surprise you. Watch the video version here. 
Kate is joined by Jemma Sbeg, host of The Psychology of Your 20s podcast and author of Person in Progress, to compare notes on breakups and grief across every life stage - from a first heartbreak in your twenties to divorce after twenty years together.
We talk about:
Jemma's 'three waves' model for processing a breakup, and why healing isn't a straight line
What's genuinely different about heartbreak in your twenties versus later in life - and what stays exactly the same
Why talking through the 'what ifs' with a partner can build a stronger relationship, not undermine it
How making something creative out of heartbreak can turn it into one of your most valuable experiences
This episode is for anyone who's been through a breakup or separation, at any age or stage - and anyone who's ever wondered if it really gets easier.
Meet Jemma Sbeg
Jemma is a host of a groundbreaking, globally recognized podcast, The Psychology of Your 20s, author of Person in progress and mental health advocate.
The Psychology of your 20s begun back in 2021 after Jemma went through her first real heartbreak and was looking for a guide to all the confusing and chaotic feelings she was experiencing. It wasn't just the break-up, there were so many other experiences she was having as a 20-something that she wished she had some explanation for. 
Nobody would give her the straight up science, and all the self-help content she found seemed to just be opinions based. And so, The Psychology of your 20s was born with our first ever episode, fittingly titled 'The Psychology of Imposter Syndrome' which remains our most downloaded episode to date. 
To hear more from Jemma, listen to The Psychology of your 20s wherever you get your podcasts or yoiu can watch it on Netflix. You can also follow Jemma on Instagram and Substack. 
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Pensions are often the biggest asset in a marriage – sometimes bigger than the family home – yet they're the one most people overlook when they separate.
Kate is joined by Josh Gordon, Head of Digital Retirement at Octopus Money, to bust some of the biggest pension myths in divorce.
We talk about:
The myth that a pension in your name is yours alone
What a PODE (Pension on Divorce Expert) report is, and how it helps you understand what your pensions are really worth
Compounding explained – and why the years matter as much as the amount
Why your pension might actually be more valuable than the house
This episode is for anyone who's tempted to leave pensions until last – and wants to make sure they're not leaving value on the table.
amicable and Octopus Money have co-created the PODE product discussed.
Meet Josh Gordon
Josh is Head of Digital Retirement at Octopus Money. He’s spent over 20 years working in financial services. As a Chartered Financial Planner, Josh helps people going through divorce understand what their pension assets are really worth, and what a fair outcome looks like. Working with individuals, solicitors, and mediators across England and Wales, providing independent PODE reports in plain language, with no surprises on cost. Josh believes the process of getting expert pension advice during divorce should be straightforward and transparent, not another source of stress. Part of the Octopus Money family, his team combines genuine financial expertise with the kind of clear communication that people going through a difficult time actually need.
Learn more about PODE reports here.
Sources
Office for National Statistics, Divorces in England and Wales, 2019: Average age at divorce: 42 for women, 45 for men, as cited from ONS data by Stowe Family Law.
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Ten years on from her divorce, actor and comedian Sally Phillips can look back with humour, honesty and hard-won perspective on her divorce and the life she's built since.
In this episode, Kate is joined by Sally Phillips – star of 'Miranda', 'Veep' and the 'Bridget Jones' films, and co-creator of the Emmy-winning 'Smack the Pony' – for a warm and often very funny conversation about separation, starting again and everything she's learned along the way.
We talk about:
How Sally knew her marriage was 'on the skids' – and why she avoided facing it 
Separating as a parent of neurodivergent children
Discovering she was going through perimenopause during her divorce – and the difference it might have made
Finding love again – and what makes a relationship work second time round 
What Sally learned about herself, resilience and building a life on the other side
Whether you're at the start of a separation or years down the line, this is a conversation full of hope, honesty and laughter.
Meet Sally Phillips
Sally Phillips is an English actor, writer, comedian, producer and director, and an executive producer at Captain Dolly. She's best known for TV comedies including I'm Alan Partridge, Jam and Jerusalem, Miranda and Veep, the Bridget Jones films, and shows like Taskmaster and QI.
She began in the Oxford Revue and went on to co-write and develop the ground-breaking female-led sketch show Smack the Pony, which won two international Emmys. Her many credits since include Green Wing, Friday Night Dinner, Breeders, Channel 4's Big Mood and the BBC's We Might Regret This, alongside film roles in How to Please a Woman, Off The Rails and Pride Prejudice and Zombies.
Sally has three neurodivergent children. Her son, who has Down syndrome and autism, is a self-advocate, and together they made the award-winning 2016 documentary A World Without Down's Syndrome? She's a joint patron of the Down's Syndrome Association with Olly, and a patron of The Brentford , Brentford FC’s Down Syndrome Team, and Josephine and Jack, a charity that provides sex and relationship advice and education to adults with learning disabilities.
You can catch Sally in Austin second series and The Hairdresser's Mysteries on BBC iPlayer. 
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If you're wondering whether things really do get better after divorce, this episode is proof that they can - one step at a time.
Kate is joined by Michelle Lynne, a Canadian concert pianist and singer, who shares how she found her way back to herself after a painful divorce, and turned that journey into her debut album.
In this episode, we cover:
How Michelle found her way back to herself after divorce
How a creative outlet can help you sit with grief instead of rushing past it
Why it's ok to tell people what you actually need from them
What it took to turn Michelle’s experience into her debut album, One Step at a Time
This episode is for anyone who feels lost after a relationship ending and looking for a creative way to process a difficult season.
Trigger warning: this episode touches on poor mental health, including thoughts of suicide, alongside grief and divorce-related trauma. If any of this feels close to home, please take care while listening - support is available from Mind, Samaritans, or your GP. 
Meet Michelle Lynne
Canadian pianist, singer and speaker Michelle Lynne is known for her dynamic, communicative performances and her ability to forge warm, personal connections with audiences. Appearing frequently as a chamber musician, collaborative pianist, and educator, she is currently on tour in Europe and has performed for over 250,000 people, most recently in the Eiffel Tower. Her debut album One Step at a Time released Nov 2025, and was born out of her own journey through a painful divorce.
You can find out more about Michelle on her website and make sure to follow her on Instagram and you can listen to her debut album One Step at a Time on Spotify. 
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