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  • Nesting in practice: how one family made co-parenting work
    In this episode, Kate is joined by Jonathan Fitter-Harding, a creative entrepreneur and proud dad of two, to hear his separation story and share some practical co-parenting insights.About the episode: Jonathan opens up about his separation and shares how well-meaning friends and family unknowingly made things more challenging. He and Kate dive into co-parenting, focusing on the ‘nesting’ arrangement and explore the practical day-to-day details of this approach. They also talk about the benefits of joint therapy and how it can help separated couples maintain a positive relationship for their children. Jonathan shares how therapy even supported them in navigating finances during the separation. Finally, he explains how he continues to co-run a business with his ex-partner and how their approach to separation has made this collaborative journey possible.A summary of what we cover:Jonathan’s separation story‘Nesting’ co-parenting arrangementBenefits of joint therapy for separated couplesRunning  a business with an ex-partnerAbout our guests:Jonathan Fitter-Harding is a proud dad of two, a creative entrepreneur and one of the key people behind Pride Canterbury - the main LGBTQ+ event in the South East. He helped lead the way in bringing secure dog fields to Kent, runs a boutique hotel and juggles a property business too. After an amicable split from his husband, Jon has built a strong, respectful co-parenting setup that puts their kids first. His story is a great reminder that separation doesn’t have to mean conflict, it can lead to clarity, connection and even a well-earned glass of champagne now and then.More resources:You can get in touch with Jonathan’s counsellor, Jenny Blain, via her website.Got a question on divorce, separation or co-parenting you’d like us to cover? Share your thoughts with us at [email protected] or through direct messages on Instagram.amicable’s YouTube channel is full of practical guidance on separation, divorce and co-parenting, explained in a clear and supportive way. From expert tips to interviews, it’s a helpful place to find answers and feel more confident about what comes next.Subscribe now: https://www.youtube.com/@amicable_world We've created amicable space to give you more personalised support. Become a member of amicable space for bonus podcast episodes, exclusive webinars, articles and an interactive community. You can share your questions and get expert advice from amicable specialists. Learn more and sign up here.You can also get in touch with amicable for more information on the legal, financial and parenting aspects of separation. Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert today. #Coparenting
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  • In brief: Friendship after divorce - high-conflict edition
    In this episode, Kate unpacks what it’s like to navigate shared friendships after a high-conflict split - and offers guidance for the friends caught in the middle.About the episode:Kate begins by exploring how high-conflict separations can disrupt friendships and social circles, often leaving ex-partners feeling sidelined or isolated. She then shares practical guidance for separated couples - from setting clear boundaries to allowing space to grieve the loss of old friendship dynamics. The episode wraps up with advice for friends who want to support both sides, including why it’s important to avoid acting as a go-between and how to check in privately in a way that feels safe and supportive.How to help a friend through a high-conflict separationIf someone in your friend group is going through a separation, small gestures of care can make a big difference - especially if there is a lot of tension between them. Here are some simple ways to support both people:Offer to listen without providing solutionsMake sure they feel safe and cared forShare compassion, but avoid taking sides or being the go-betweenIf certain boundaries are set, do your best to honour them (where practically possible)Accept that your friendship with both of them (and the wider group) could changeTry to avoid being pulled into gossip or rumoursRemember to prioritise your wellbeingYou can find out more from our guide to helping a friend or family member through separation.More resources:The studies mentioned in this episode are Amato (2000), Afifi et al. (2015) and Symoens et al. (2013).Got a question on divorce, separation or co-parenting you’d like us to cover? Share your thoughts with us at [email protected] or through direct messages on Instagram. They might be the topic of our next podcast!We've created amicable space to give you more personalised support. Become a member of amicable space for bonus podcast episodes, exclusive webinars, articles and an interactive community. You can share your questions and get expert advice from amicable specialists. Learn more and sign up here.You can also get in touch with amicable for more information on the legal, financial and parenting aspects of separation. Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert today. amicable’s YouTube channel is full of practical guidance on separation, divorce and co-parenting, explained in a clear and supportive way. From expert tips to interviews, it’s a helpful place to find answers and feel more confident about what comes next.Subscribe now: https://www.youtube.com/@amicable_world #LifeAfterDivorce
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  • How hidden fear can impact your divorce
    In this episode, Kate is joined by Annmarie Chereso, a relationship coach and author, to discuss the role of fear in divorce and separation - and what you can do about it.About the episode: Annmarie starts by sharing her own story of divorce. Kate and her then talk about the role of fear and uncertainty and how they might hinder the separation process. Annmarie also gives some tips on how to talk to yourself in those difficult moments and how to accept the contradictory nature of your present situation. They move on to talk about the importance of taking responsibility for your own actions in the divorce - to stop the blame game and move to a more amicable outcome. They also discuss the importance of supporting each other’s growth and evolution, even if it might result in the relationship ending. Annmarie shares how fear can create drama in relationships ending and, more importantly, how to stop that from happening. She finishes off by discussing how all these principles apply in keeping peace and harmony in her large blended family of nine.  A summary of what we cover:Annmarie’s personal divorce storyHow fear makes separation harder and creates dramaTaking responsibility to reduce blame in divorceWays to overcome fear and reduce unnecessary conflictBuilding peace in a large blended familyAbout our guests:Annmarie Chereso is a conscious relationship coach, speaker and author of the #1 International Best Seller Anthology, The Perfectly Imperfect Family. She is devoted to helping women lead empowered, fulfilling lives from the inside out. With over two decades of experience, she blends deep wisdom with practical tools to help women break generational patterns, navigate conflict with clarity and reconnect with their true selves. Her mission is to help women let go of conditioned beliefs, embody unconditional love and step into their full potential. Living her teachings, Annmarie resides in Chicago with her husband, where they joyfully navigate life with their beautifully blended family of nine - a living testament to her work in cultivating harmony and conscious connection.More resources:You can learn more about Annmarie and get in touch with her on her websiteGot a question on divorce, separation or co-parenting you’d like us to cover? Share your thoughts with us at [email protected] or through direct messages on Instagram.We've created amicable space to give you more personalised support. Become a member of amicable space for bonus podcast episodes, exclusive webinars, articles and an interactive community. You can share your questions and get expert advice from amicable specialists. Learn more and sign up here.You can also get in touch with amicable for more information on the legal, financial and parenting aspects of separation. Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert today. #EmotionalJourney
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  • In brief: Friendships after divorce - amicable edition
    In this mini-episode, Kate shares practical tips on how to navigate shared friend groups after an amicable separation. She also offers advice for friends of separating couples. This episode focuses on situations where things end on good terms - guidance for higher-conflict separations will be covered in an upcoming episode.About the episode:Kate begins with tips for separated couples, from discussing social plans in advance to the importance of not oversharing personal details. She finishes the episode by sharing advice for friends who want to support both people - from handling group invitations sensitively to avoiding the trap of over-praising the couple’s maturity.How to help a friend through separationIf someone in your friend group is going through a separation, small gestures of care can make a big difference. Here are some simple ways to support them both:Offer to listen without providing solutionsMake sure they feel safe and cared forShare compassion, not comparisons to your own situations or too much adviceOffer practical help, like meals or pet carePoint them towards trusted resources You can find out more from our guide to helping a friend or family member through separation.More resources:Got a question on divorce, separation or co-parenting you’d like us to cover? Share your thoughts with us at [email protected] or through direct messages on Instagram. They might be the topic of our next podcast!We've created amicable space to give you more personalised support. Become a member of amicable space for bonus podcast episodes, exclusive webinars, articles and an interactive community. You can share your questions and get expert advice from amicable specialists. Learn more and sign up here.You can also get in touch with amicable for more information on the legal, financial and parenting aspects of separation. Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert today. amicable’s YouTube channel is full of practical guidance on separation, divorce and co-parenting, explained in a clear and supportive way. From expert tips to interviews, it’s a helpful place to find answers and feel more confident about what comes next.Subscribe now: amicable divorce  #LifeAfterDivorce
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  • Non-court dispute resolution (NCDR) explained
    In this episode, Kate Daly is joined by Stephen Wildblood, King’s Counsel and a playwright, to discuss non-court dispute resolution (NCDR).About the episode: Kate and Stephen start by unpacking what NCDR (non-court dispute resolution) is, the main types available and the key benefits of choosing this route over going to court to finalise a divorce. From there, they explore why NCDR isn’t as widely considered as it could be, and discuss simple ways to raise its profile with the public. Stephen then shares how the plays he writes are helping to shine a light on NCDR - and why this creative approach is such an effective way to spread awareness. Finally, we look ahead, imagining other ways to reach a wider audience and ensure NCDR becomes the go-to choice for untying the knot.A summary of what they cover:Main types of NCDR and their key benefitsWhy NCDR isn’t as widely considered as it could be during divorceUnorthodox ways to make NCDR people’s first choice when separatingAbout our guests:Stephen Wildblood KC was the Designated Family Judge for the Bristol area for ten years before stepping down in November 2023. He continues to sit as a Judge, part-time, in the Family and High Courts. He practised as a Family barrister for 27 years – the last eight and a half as a KC. His practice was divided equally between children and financial remedy cases. Stephen has written for over 20 legal textbooks and regularly lectures on all aspects of family law. He and Dr Freda Gardner (a consultant clinical psychologist) have set up a business which helps couples resolve family issues relating to money and children without litigation. They are both trained mediators. Stephen is a qualified Family arbitrator in relation to children and financial issues. He has joined 3 PB barristers' chambers as an associate member offering private financial hearings, early neutral evaluation and arbitration. You’ll learn more about this in the podcast episode. He is a man of many talents and is a playwright and author too. He believes that going to court should be a last resort in divorce and children cases.More resources:You can learn more about Stephen and get in touch with him through Gardner Wildblood LLP or 3 Paper Buildings.Got a question on divorce, separation or co-parenting you’d like us to cover? Share your thoughts with us at [email protected] or through direct messages on Instagram.We've created amicable space to give you more personalised support. Become a member of amicable space for bonus podcast episodes, exclusive webinars, articles and an interactive community. You can share your questions and get expert advice from amicable specialists. Learn more and sign up here.You can also get in touch with amicable for more information on the legal, financial and parenting aspects of separation. Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert today. #Legal
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The Divorce Podcast is a podcast dedicated to looking at divorce from new perspectives and driving reform. Hosted by Kate Daly, each episode invites experts from a variety of backgrounds and disciplines to discuss their own views on divorce, and debate them with the other guests. Shortlisted for the British Podcast Awards 2025.
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