The Divorce Podcast

Pensions are often the biggest asset in a marriage – sometimes bigger than the family home – yet they're the one most people overlook when they separate.
Kate is joined by Josh Gordon, Head of Digital Retirement at Octopus Money, to bust some of the biggest pension myths in divorce.
We talk about:
The myth that a pension in your name is yours alone
What a PODE (Pension on Divorce Expert) report is, and how it helps you understand what your pensions are really worth
Compounding explained – and why the years matter as much as the amount
Why your pension might actually be more valuable than the house
This episode is for anyone who's tempted to leave pensions until last – and wants to make sure they're not leaving value on the table.
amicable and Octopus Money have co-created the PODE product discussed.
Meet Josh Gordon
Josh is Head of Digital Retirement at Octopus Money. He’s spent over 20 years working in financial services. As a Chartered Financial Planner, Josh helps people going through divorce understand what their pension assets are really worth, and what a fair outcome looks like. Working with individuals, solicitors, and mediators across England and Wales, providing independent PODE reports in plain language, with no surprises on cost. Josh believes the process of getting expert pension advice during divorce should be straightforward and transparent, not another source of stress. Part of the Octopus Money family, his team combines genuine financial expertise with the kind of clear communication that people going through a difficult time actually need.
Learn more about PODE reports here.
Sources
Office for National Statistics, Divorces in England and Wales, 2019: Average age at divorce: 42 for women, 45 for men, as cited from ONS data by Stowe Family Law.
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Kate’s book amicable divorce includes a dedicated chapter on navigating finances during separation, including reaching financial agreements based on your real needs (not just 50/50 splits) and guidance on commonly overlooked assets like pensions. Find it on Amazon today.
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Ten years on from her divorce, actor and comedian Sally Phillips can look back with humour, honesty and hard-won perspective on her divorce and the life she's built since.
In this episode, Kate is joined by Sally Phillips – star of 'Miranda', 'Veep' and the 'Bridget Jones' films, and co-creator of the Emmy-winning 'Smack the Pony' – for a warm and often very funny conversation about separation, starting again and everything she's learned along the way.
We talk about:
How Sally knew her marriage was 'on the skids' – and why she avoided facing it 
Separating as a parent of neurodivergent children
Discovering she was going through perimenopause during her divorce – and the difference it might have made
Finding love again – and what makes a relationship work second time round 
What Sally learned about herself, resilience and building a life on the other side
Whether you're at the start of a separation or years down the line, this is a conversation full of hope, honesty and laughter.
Meet Sally Phillips
Sally Phillips is an English actor, writer, comedian, producer and director, and an executive producer at Captain Dolly. She's best known for TV comedies including I'm Alan Partridge, Jam and Jerusalem, Miranda and Veep, the Bridget Jones films, and shows like Taskmaster and QI.
She began in the Oxford Revue and went on to co-write and develop the ground-breaking female-led sketch show Smack the Pony, which won two international Emmys. Her many credits since include Green Wing, Friday Night Dinner, Breeders, Channel 4's Big Mood and the BBC's We Might Regret This, alongside film roles in How to Please a Woman, Off The Rails and Pride Prejudice and Zombies.
Sally has three neurodivergent children. Her son, who has Down syndrome and autism, is a self-advocate, and together they made the award-winning 2016 documentary A World Without Down's Syndrome? She's a joint patron of the Down's Syndrome Association with Olly, and a patron of The Brentford , Brentford FC’s Down Syndrome Team, and Josephine and Jack, a charity that provides sex and relationship advice and education to adults with learning disabilities.
You can catch Sally in Austin second series and The Hairdresser's Mysteries on BBC iPlayer. 
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If you're wondering whether things really do get better after divorce, this episode is proof that they can - one step at a time.
Kate is joined by Michelle Lynne, a Canadian concert pianist and singer, who shares how she found her way back to herself after a painful divorce, and turned that journey into her debut album.
In this episode, we cover:
How Michelle found her way back to herself after divorce
How a creative outlet can help you sit with grief instead of rushing past it
Why it's ok to tell people what you actually need from them
What it took to turn Michelle’s experience into her debut album, One Step at a Time
This episode is for anyone who feels lost after a relationship ending and looking for a creative way to process a difficult season.
Trigger warning: this episode touches on poor mental health, including thoughts of suicide, alongside grief and divorce-related trauma. If any of this feels close to home, please take care while listening - support is available from Mind, Samaritans, or your GP. 
Meet Michelle Lynne
Canadian pianist, singer and speaker Michelle Lynne is known for her dynamic, communicative performances and her ability to forge warm, personal connections with audiences. Appearing frequently as a chamber musician, collaborative pianist, and educator, she is currently on tour in Europe and has performed for over 250,000 people, most recently in the Eiffel Tower. Her debut album One Step at a Time released Nov 2025, and was born out of her own journey through a painful divorce.
You can find out more about Michelle on her website and make sure to follow her on Instagram and you can listen to her debut album One Step at a Time on Spotify. 
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Kate’s book amicable divorce includes dedicated chapters on emotional readiness and timing, navigating separation with kindness and rebuilding your identity and moving forward with confidence. Find it on Amazon today.
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If you're navigating work travel while co-parenting, this episode will help you plan around it without the guilt, or the arguments.
In this episode, Kate Daly shares practical advice on how to plan childcare, communicate with your co-parent, and build a support network so work travel doesn't disrupt your co-parenting relationship or your children's routines.
In this episode, we cover:
Why work travel feels different once you're co-parenting
How to agree a parenting plan for travel
Why your co-parent isn't your default childcare, and what to do instead
Keeping your co-parent in the loop and staying connected with your kids while you're away
This episode is for co-parents whose work involves travel, or anyone working out childcare arrangements beyond the usual routine.
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Want ongoing support through separation?
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Kate’s book amicable divorce includes dedicated chapters on co-parenting, with practical guidance on supporting your children's wellbeing, talking to them in age-appropriate ways and building a cooperative co-parenting relationship that reduces conflict. Find it on Amazon today.
Want to stay organised as co-parents?
Download our free Parenting Plan template to help you and your co-parent agree on shared goals, routines and decision-making – with your children at the centre.
Try the amicable co-parenting app free for 3 months to share calendars, track expenses and communicate clearly. Open this link on your phone, install the app, create your account, select 'I have a promo code', enter PODCAST and press ‘apply’.
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What do you show your children when you decide your marriage has to end?
Kate is joined by Buzzy Randall, a hospitality consultant, to talk about how she chose to model strength, honesty and self-worth for her daughters throughout her divorce.
We talk about:
Why being a role model to your children throughout your relationship and separation matters
Showing up honestly for your kids, including the moments you don't have it all together
The shame and stigma that can surround divorce, especially when infidelity's involved
Why having someone else who's been through something similar can make all the difference
Rebuilding your self-identity, confidence and ability to make decisions for yourself
⚠️ Trigger warning: this episode touches on infidelity and the emotional impact of divorce and separation. 
This episode is for anyone thinking about what their separation is teaching their children. 
You're not alone in this – if this episode resonated, share it with someone who might need it right now.
Meet Buzzy Randall
Buzzy is a hospitality consultant, entrepreneur, classically trained chef, and currently a Masters Psychology student at the University of Leicester. With more than twenty years' experience in hospitality, including senior creative and operational roles within luxury hotels and events, she has built a career around creating meaningful experiences and supporting people to thrive.
Following her own experience of divorce after an eighteen-year marriage, Buzzy became passionate about conversations around separation, resilience, identity and rebuilding life after significant change. Through her writing, podcasting and studies in psychology and counselling, she explores how people navigate loss, rediscover themselves, and create fulfilling new chapters.
To hear more from Buzzy follow her on Instagram and listen to her podcast The Big D.
More divorce resources
Need expert help right now?
Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation. Or explore our Separating with Children Service – a 90-minute joint session with a Co-parenting Specialist tailored to your family’s needs.
Want ongoing support as you rebuild after separation?
Join amicable space for bonus podcast episodes, exclusive webinars and articles on co-parenting and an interactive community where you can share questions and get expert advice from amicable specialists. Start your free trial here.
Kate’s book amicable divorce includes dedicated chapters on co-parenting, with practical guidance on supporting your children's wellbeing, talking to them in age-appropriate ways and building a cooperative co-parenting relationship that reduces conflict. Find it on Amazon today.
Got a question for a future episode?
Share your thoughts at press@amicable.co.uk or through direct messages on Instagram.
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