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  • Jovani Furlan: The Leap That Changed Everything
    In this episode of the Grace & Form podcast, we’re joined by New York City Ballet principal dancer and founder of Furlan Dancewear, Jovani Furlan. From his early training at the Bolshoi school in Brazil to dancing on some of the world’s biggest stages, Jovani shares the pivotal moments that shaped his path; including the risks he took, the pressure he’s learned to navigate, and the tools that keep him grounded. We talk about performance anxiety, building a business while dancing full-time, and how meditation, therapy, and a sense of humor have helped him through it all. Jovani reflects on the importance of showing up, staying open, and letting go of the need to control every outcome: in dance and in life. This is a heartfelt conversation about growth, reinvention, and learning to be kinder to yourself along the way. Take class with one of our incredible Grace & Form teachers, here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Train with the best ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try 7 Days Free and Download our App:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Launch the app⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our Discount Dance edit here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠DD EDIT⁠⁠
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  • Ballet, Business & Best Friends: The Story Behind Grace & Form
    In this special episode, co-founders Saskia Gregson-Williams and Indiana Woodward sit down for an honest conversation about friendship, creativity, and the leap from barre to business. From meeting through the ballet world to building Grace & Form from the ground up, they reflect on the highs, the hard bits, and how their bond has shaped everything along the way. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, a few laughs, and a look at what it really takes to build something meaningful, with your best friend by your side.   Take class with one of our incredible Grace & Form teachers, here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Train with the best ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try 7 Days Free and Download our App:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Launch the app⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our Discount Dance edit here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠DD EDIT⁠⁠
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  • India Bradley: Pointe Shoes, Pressure & Self-Belief
    In this powerful and personal episode, New York City Ballet’s India Bradley opens up about what it means to be the “first”; the first Black Dewdrop, the first in many roles - and the complex weight that comes with it. From her early years in Detroit to finding her voice at Dance Theatre of Harlem and SAB, India shares the winding path to NYCB, the pressure to prove she belongs, and the lessons she’s still learning about self-worth, representation, and resilience. We talk about dancing through doubt, the difference between strength and visibility, pointe shoe trials, and the ever-shifting balance between ambition and self-kindness. This one is raw, funny, and deeply honest - a backstage pass into what it really takes to find your place in ballet when the stage has never quite looked like you. Take class with one of our incredible Grace & Form teachers, here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Train with the best ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try 7 Days Free and Download our App:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Launch the app⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our Discount Dance edit here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠DD EDIT⁠⁠
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  • Saskia Gregson-Williams: How Ballet Led Me to Start a Business at 15
    In this intimate episode, Indiana turns the mic on her co-host and best friend, Saskia Gregson-Williams. Saskia’s journey as a ballet dancer, entrepreneur, and wellness creative has been anything but linear. Together they unpack the journey: homesickness, bullying, burnout, early independence, , injury, and the quiet courage it takes to start again, again and again. They talk about the pressure of being “the best,” the cost of chasing external validation, and how Saskia found strength not in perfection, but in surrendering control. This is an honest and hopeful conversation about identity, reinvention, and the power of patience. Take class with Saskia or one of our incredible Grace & Form teachers, here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Train with the best ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try 7 Days Free and Download our App:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Launch the app⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our Discount Dance edit here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠DD EDIT⁠⁠  
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  • Chun Wai Chan: How I Learned to Dance Smarter, Not Harder
    From Guangzhou to New York, cramping on stage to commanding the spotlight, Chun Wai Chan shares the story of how grit, laughter, and letting go helped him become the first Chinese principal dancer at New York City Ballet. In this episode of Grace & Form, Chun opens up about the physical and mental battles behind the curtain: from writing a letter to his parents to convince them to let him dance, to redefining success across continents. We talk training, injury, cultural expectations, building a personal brand, and the infamous Swan Lake performance that almost ended in disaster (hint: cramps, chaos, and a lot of heart). This one’s equal parts hilarious and heartfelt. Take class with Chun or one of our incredible Grace & Form teachers, here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Train with the best ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try 7 Days Free and Download our App:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Launch the app⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our Discount Dance edit here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠DD EDIT⁠⁠
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About The Grace & Form Podcast

Are you ballet curious? The Grace & Form podcast is your backstage pass to the world of movement and the stories that shape it. Hosted by the founders of the ballet and workout app Grace & Form, Indiana Woodward (Principal Ballerina at New York City Ballet) and Saskia Gregson-Williams (Bestselling Author), we share the inspiring journeys of top dancers, creators, and artists who find joy and purpose through movement. Each episode explores their careers, life lessons, and how they’ve learned to be a little kinder to themselves along the way.
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