5.35 Tony Costa, David Schrock, & Trent Hunter • Interview • "Lost Brothers or Mortal Enemies: A History of Islam's Teaching on Christianity"
02/07/2026 | 1h 7 mins.
ABOUT THE EPISODE Are Islam and Christianity separated brothers, mortal enemies, or something in between? History tells the story Sponsor This month, we’re talking about how Christians engage with Islam, a conversation Southern Seminary has taken seriously for a long time. As President Al Mohler has put it, you can’t prepare a minister for today’s world without reckoning with Islam. That conviction is why Southern now offers a PhD in Islamic Studies, and why it’s home to the Jenkins Center, a team devoted to helping pastors, missionaries, and everyday believers reach their Muslim neighbors with the gospel. To find resources and learn more about degrees, visit sbts.edu/islamicstudies. And be sure to listen to our interview with Dr Ayman Ibrahim, who is the head of the Jenkins Center. Timestamps 00:41 - Intro 03:20 - Examining Muhammad's Role and Christian Rejection 09:32 - Analyzing the Quran's Gnostic Connections and Distorted Narratives 18:13 - Unpacking th Quran's Variants and Historical Inaccuracies 26:33 - Understanding Abrogation and Muslim Migration to the West 31:17 - Navigating Ministry Challenges with Muslim Migrants 37:19 - Defining Terms and Learning about Islam for Gospel Outreach 44:36 - Responding to Islam's Political Aims and Sharia Law 56:27 - Asking the Crucial Question: Do You Have Assurance? Resources to Click “Islam and Christianity: A Brief History” – Tony Costa “Does the Bible Predict the Coming of Muhammad?” – Tony Costa “Jesus in Islam” – Tony Costa “Does the Qur’an Really Deny That Jesus was Crucified an Died on the Cross? Answer May Surprise You” – Tony Costa “Religious Diversity in France: Intergenerational Transmissions and Practices by Origins” – Lucas Drouhot “How Religious Groups’ Sizes Changed in Europe, 2010-2020” – Conrad Hackett, et al. Sefaria Library Search Results for “Gabriel” Theme of the Month: Unmasking Islam Give to Support the Work Books to Read Early Christian Creeds & Hymns – Tony Costa The Life of Muhammad – Muhammad Ibn Ishāq The History of Al-Tabari, Vol. 6: Muhammad at Mecca – W. Montgomery Watt & M.V. McDonald Textual Criticism and Qur’an Manuscripts – Keith E. Small Qur’ans: Books of Divine Encounter – Keith E. Small Corrections in Early Qur’an Manuscripts: Twenty Examples – Daniel Allen Brubaker Quran: The Final Testament: Authorized English Version The Sources of Islamic Law: The Islamic Theories of Abrogation – John Burton The Meaning of the Glorious Koran – Marmaduke Pickthall The Holy Quran: Translation by Abdullah Yusuf Ali – Abdullah Yusuf Ali Muhammad is Not the Father of Any of Your Men: The Meaning of the Last Prophet – David S. Powers Answering Islam: The Crescent in Light of the Cross – Norman L. Geisler and Abdul Saleeb The Integrity of the Bible according to the Qur’an and the Hadith – Ghiyathuddin Adelphi and Ernest Hahn The Decline of Eastern Christianity Under Islam: From Jihad to Dhimmitude: Seventh – Twentieth Century – Bat Ye’or Bell’s Introduction to the Qur’an – W. Montgomery and Richard Bell The Crucifixion and the Qur’an: A Study in the History of Muslim Thought – Todd Lawson The End of the Journey: An Islamic Perspective on Death and the Afterlife – Abdullah Muhammad Khouj Jesus Remembered: Christianity in the Making – James D.G. Dunn The Qur’an: Arabic Text and English Translation – M.H. Shakir
ABOUT THE EPISODE Islam—in all its varieties—has gained a prominent foothold in Great Britain like a Himalayan Balsam flower. And if Christians don’t do anything, the West will be overcome by a soft Jihad that conquers through the empty slogans of multiculturalism. Sponsor This month, we’re talking about how Christians engage with Islam, a conversation Southern Seminary has taken seriously for a long time. As President Al Mohler has put it, you can’t prepare a minister for today’s world without reckoning with Islam. That conviction is why Southern now offers a PhD in Islamic Studies, and why it’s home to the Jenkins Center, a team devoted to helping pastors, missionaries, and everyday believers reach their Muslim neighbors with the gospel. To find resources and learn more about degrees, visit sbts.edu/islamicstudies. And be sure to listen to our interview with Dr Ayman Ibrahim, who is the head of the Jenkins Center. Resources to Click “Soft Jihad: Multiculturalism, Islamic Conquest, and Christianity” – Aaron Edwards “Multiculturalism & Rootlessness” – Aaron Edwards “Multiculturalism, Nation, and Church” – Aaron Edwards “5 Reasons Christians Don’t Like to Oppose Immigration” – Aaron Edwards “When the Church Shrinks Back” – Aaron Edwards “In Defence of Christian Britain” – Aaron Edwards “Theocracy, Theonomy, and Civil Society” – Aaron Edwards “Culture and the Kingdom of God” – Aaron Edwards “Episode 10 – How to Be A Christian Dissident” – Pod of the Gaps “Christian Preacher Vindicated After Arrest, Prosecution and ‘Non-Crime Hate Incident’ Threat for Questioning Quran” – Christian Concern “People Crossing the English Channel in Small Boats” – The Migration Observatory “Mum Jailed over ‘Racist’ Migrant Hotel Tweet after Southport Stabbings Is Denied Temporary Release to See Ailing Husband” – James Tapsfield David Atherton Tweet “Record number of rape offences recorded as minister promises ‘urgent action’” – Holly Bancroft & Ian Jones “Sexual Offences in England and Wales Overview: Year Ending March 2025” – Office for National Statistics “Rupert Lowe’s 600k grooming gang inquiry hears shock claims of ‘Eid rapes’ and police cover-ups: ‘Barbarians!’” – Gabrielle Wilde “National Audit on Group-based Child Sexual Expoitation and Abuse” – Baroness Louise Casey “’Imams promote grooming rings’, Muslim Leader Claims” – Hayley Dixon “The Rape Gang Inquiry Report” – Rupert Lowe “British Muslims in Numbers: Census Summary Report 2025” – Muslim Council of Britain “UK Mosque Statistics/Masjid Statistics” – MuslimBritain.org “Sharia Law or “One Law For All?” – Denis Mac Eoin “The Truth about Sharia Law in Britain” – Hannah Baldock “Parents are pulling children from RE lessons – so they don’t learn about Islam” – Paul Smalley “Watch: Boy Scout Refuses to Bow to Allah During Mosque Visit” – Doug Mainwaring “2021 Census: As UK Population Grows, So Do British Muslim Communities” – Muslim Council of Britain Bob (@shariakill) Tweet Ben Zeisloft Tweet “When Islam Was Called the ‘Religion of Peace’” – Times of India “Is Islam a Religion of Peace?” – Mark Durie “Misunderstanding Islam Is Basically a Slow- Motion Suicide – An Interview with Raymond Ibrahim” – The Hungarian Conservative Michael Foster Tweet Theme of the Month: Unmasking Islam Give to Support the Work Books to Read Live Not By Lies: A Manual for Christian Dissidents – Rod Dreher The Challenge of Islam: Understanding and Responding to Islam’s Increasing Influence in the UK – Tim Dieppe
5.33 Tony Costa • Reading • "Lost Brothers or Mortal Enemies? A History of Islam's Teaching on Christianity"
22/06/2026 | 42 mins.
ABOUT THE EPISODE: Are Islam and Christianity separated brothers, mortal enemies, or something in between? History tells the story. Sponsor This month, we’re talking about how Christians engage with Islam, a conversation Southern Seminary has taken seriously for a long time. As President Al Mohler has put it, you can’t prepare a minister for today’s world without reckoning with Islam. That conviction is why Southern now offers a PhD in Islamic Studies, and why it’s home to the Jenkins Center, a team devoted to helping pastors, missionaries, and everyday believers reach their Muslim neighbors with the gospel. To find resources and learn more about degrees, visit sbts.edu/islamicstudies. And be sure to listen to our interview with Dr Ayman Ibrahim, who is the head of the Jenkins Center. Resources to Click “Islam and Christianity: A Brief History” – Tony Costa “Does the Bible Predict the Coming of Muhammad?” – Tony Costa “Jesus in Islam” – Tony Costa “Does the Qur’an Really Deny That Jesus was Crucified an Died on the Cross? Answer May Surprise You” – Tony Costa “Religious Diversity in France: Intergenerational Transmissions and Practices by Origins” – Lucas Drouhot “How Religious Groups’ Sizes Changed in Europe, 2010-2020” – Conrad Hackett, et al. Sefaria Library Search Results for “Gabriel” Theme of the Month: Unmasking Islam Give to Support the Work Books to Read Early Christian Creeds & Hymns – Tony Costa The Life of Muhammad – Muhammad Ibn Ishāq The History of Al-Tabari, Vol. 6: Muhammad at Mecca – W. Montgomery Watt & M.V. McDonald Textual Criticism and Qur’an Manuscripts – Keith E. Small Qur’ans: Books of Divine Encounter – Keith E. Small Corrections in Early Qur’an Manuscripts: Twenty Examples – Daniel Allen Brubaker Quran: The Final Testament: Authorized English Version The Sources of Islamic Law: The Islamic Theories of Abrogation – John Burton The Meaning of the Glorious Koran – Marmaduke Pickthall The Holy Quran: Translation by Abdullah Yusuf Ali – Abdullah Yusuf Ali Muhammad is Not the Father of Any of Your Men: The Meaning of the Last Prophet – David S. Powers Answering Islam: The Crescent in Light of the Cross – Norman L. Geisler and Abdul Saleeb The Integrity of the Bible according to the Qur’an and the Hadith – Ghiyathuddin Adelphi and Ernest Hahn The Decline of Eastern Christianity Under Islam: From Jihad to Dhimmitude: Seventh – Twentieth Century – Bat Ye’or Bell’s Introduction to the Qur’an – W. Montgomery and Richard Bell The Crucifixion and the Qur’an: A Study in the History of Muslim Thought – Todd Lawson The End of the Journey: An Islamic Perspective on Death and the Afterlife – Abdullah Muhammad Khouj Jesus Remembered: Christianity in the Making – James D.G. Dunn The Qur’an: Arabic Text and English Translation – M.H. Shakir The Muslim Jesus: Sayings and Stories in Islamic Literature – Tarif Khalidi
5.32 A.S. Ibrahim, David Schrock, & Stephen Wellum • Interview • “Inside the Muslim Mind: Seven Pillars of the Islamic Worldview”
15/06/2026 | 1h 10 mins.
ABOUT THE EPISODE Listen in as David Schrock and Stephen Wellum interview A.S. Ibrahim on his COA Longform Essay, "Inside the Muslim Mind: Seven Pillars of the Islamic Worldview" Sponsor This month, we’re talking about how Christians engage with Islam, a conversation Southern Seminary has taken seriously for a long time. As President Al Mohler has put it, you can’t prepare a minister for today’s world without reckoning with Islam. That conviction is why Southern now offers a PhD in Islamic Studies, and why it’s home to the Jenkins Center, a team devoted to helping pastors, missionaries, and everyday believers reach their Muslim neighbors with the gospel. To find resources and learn more about degrees, visit sbts.edu/islamicstudies. And be sure to listen to our interview with Dr Ayman Ibrahim, who is the head of the Jenkins Center. Timestamps 03:08 - Abraham Ibrahim: His Journey to Studying Islam 09:24 - Exploring Ayman's Books and Islam's Core Foundations 19:14 - Unpacking Islam's Submission and Quranic Textual Dynamics 29:02 - The Conflict Between Sharia and Western Freedoms 43:12 - Understanding the Ummah and Islam's Public Advancement 56:50 - Contrasting Allah with God and Islam's Uncertain Salvation 1:04:50 - How to Study and Engage Muslims with the Gospel Resources to Click “Inside the Muslim Mind: Seven Pillars of the Islamic Worldview” – A.S. Ibrahim Theme of the Month: Unmasking Islam Give to Support the Work Books to Read Reaching Your Muslim Neighbor with the Gospel – A.S. Ibrahim
5.31 A.S. Ibrahim • Reading • "Inside the Muslim Mind: Seven Pillars of the Islamic Worldview"
09/06/2026 | 26 mins.
ABOUT THE EPISODE If you want to understand Muslims and how to best share the gospel in light of their worldview, this is for you. Sponsor This month, we’re talking about how Christians engage with Islam, a conversation Southern Seminary has taken seriously for a long time. As President Al Mohler has put it, you can’t prepare a minister for today’s world without reckoning with Islam. That conviction is why Southern now offers a PhD in Islamic Studies, and why it’s home to the Jenkins Center, a team devoted to helping pastors, missionaries, and everyday believers reach their Muslim neighbors with the gospel. To find resources and learn more about degrees, visit sbts.edu/islamicstudies. And be sure to listen to our interview with Dr Ayman Ibrahim, who is the head of the Jenkins Center. Resources to Click “Inside the Muslim Mind: Seven Pillars of the Islamic Worldview” – A.S. Ibrahim Theme of the Month: Unmasking Islam Give to Support the Work Books to Read Reaching Your Muslim Neighbor with the Gospel – A.S. Ibrahim
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