Ellis and Eddie are talking expectations — the ones we set for school, dating, and life — and what happens when reality doesn’t match the plan. From dirty dishes and post-mission dating curveballs to Zion’s Camp detours and cheeseburgers that somehow turn spiritual, they unpack the funny, frustrating, and faith-filled lessons that come with unmet expectations. Along the way, they explore why perfection is vertical (not horizontal), how high expectations only work when matched with high love, and why even small steps — like trading a Coke for water — can move us closer to Christ. Come study with us — the gospel has something to say about expectations, disappointments, and how diligence, faith, and prayers of faith turn tribulation into blessing.
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What Triumph and Failure Really Mean - With Ben Hancock and Jenet Erickson
This episode explores Doctrine and Covenants 102–105 — revelations that establish councils in the Church, recount the trials of Zion’s Camp, and redefine what success and failure look like in the Lord’s work. These chapters show that God proves, refines, and prepares His people through tribulation, and that redemption often comes in unexpected ways. Come study with hosts Ellis and Eddie, joined by Ben Hancock, host of the For All the Saints podcast, and Jenet Erickson, a BYU religion professor. Together they reflect on high councils and integrity, the grueling march of Zion’s Camp, and the blessings that come “after much tribulation.” From burned homes to the Fishing River miracles to learning the Lord’s definition of triumph, this conversation blends history, covenant hope, and personal testimony for all seeking to build Zion in their own lives.
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Sanctified Through Struggles
Ellis and Eddie are talking trials, setbacks, and why hard things can actually make us holy. From friend-zones and burnt rice to timing belts that refuse to cooperate, they dig into the funny, frustrating, and faith-building lessons that come when life feels like one big check engine light. Along the way, they explore how grace shows up when we’ve done all we can, why unreciprocated love can teach us meekness, and how even broken cars (or hearts) can turn into oil for our lamps. Come study with us — the gospel has something to say about affliction, growth, and becoming more like Christ through it all.
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Peacemakers Take the Charge (Doctrine & Covenants 98-101)
This episode explores Doctrine and Covenants 98–101 — revelations that guided the Saints through persecution, loss, and the refining fire of adversity. These chapters teach that Zion is built not by retaliation, but by patience, gratitude, and peace — and that chastening is the Lord’s way of sanctifying His people. Come study with hosts Ellis and Eddie, joined by Kekeli from Ghana and Brother Ronald Morgan, as they unpack what it means to be a true peacemaker, why perfection means wholeness in Christ, and how covenants give our lives “savor.” From basketball fouls to printing presses in the river to the privilege of paying the price to know God, this conversation blends doctrine, testimony, and hope for all who seek to follow Christ’s higher law.
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Samples at Spiritual Costco
Ellis and Eddie are talking temples, sacrifice, and why showing up matters even when it isn’t easy. From “spiritual Costco” runs where revelation comes in bulk or in small sample sizes, to Odell Beckham–style one-handed catches of light, they dive into the funny, frustrating, and faith-building realities of trying to make the temple the center of life. Along the way, they unpack what it means to scrape off the “barnacles” of stress and sin, why small efforts still count, and how Christ meets us in our honest sacrifices. Come study with us — the gospel has something to say about temples, time, and catching revelation when you reach for it.
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