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Computer Says Maybe

Alix Dunn
Computer Says Maybe
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    Computer Says Kill: The Palestine Laboratory w/ Antony Loewenstein

    05/06/2026 | 49 mins.
    Israel has a long history of making new technological weapons of war and exporting them to the world. They have used Palestine as a testing ground to show how new tools can enable mass killing. And they are banking that demand for their products might protect them on the world stage.
    More like this: Anthropic is NOT the Good Guy w/ Maddy Batt
    In part seven of Computer Says Kill, author of The Palestine Laboratory Antony Loewenstein explains that for Israel, precision warfare is just performative. Israel has the means to kill with precision, but this is at odds with the logics of genocide. Antony will take us through the history of Israel’s dealings with authoritarian states, and Israel and American states do not need to take state control of a their domestic tech industries because they are already so ideologically aligned with their regimes.
    Further reading & resources:
    Buy The Palestine Laboratory by Antony Loewenstein (Verso Books)
    Watch The Palestine Laboratory series on Al Jazeera
    ‘Hondurasgate,’ the alleged US and Israeli interference plot to destabilize Mexico and other progressive governments — El Pais May 2026
    Israeli drone strikes on vehicles in Lebanon kill 12 people, including 2 children — LA Times May 2026
    What is Project Nimbus? Al Jazeera, 2024
    Israeli authorities are using facial recognition technology to entrench apartheid — on ‘Red Wolf’ from Amnesty International, 2023
    Check out our Youtube for Tech Story of the Week
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    Computer Says Maybe is produced by Georgia Iacovou, Kushal Dev, Marion Wellington, Sarah Myles, Van Newman, and Zoe Trout
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    SPECIAL: Israel’s AI Kill List in Lebanon w/ Nabih Bulous

    29/05/2026 | 19 mins.
    The Israeli military is using data, surveillance, and AI to kill noncombatants in Southern Lebanon.
    More like this: Computer Says Kill: Collapsing the Chain w/ with Matt Mahmoudi
    This week, we're kind of taking a break from our Computer Says Kill series to play a interview from our YouTube channel that is extremely relevant to the conversations we've been having about AI and militarization. Alix sat down with Nabih Bulos, the Middle East Bureau Chief at the LA Times, to discuss his recent reporting on Israel’s complex system of surveillance-driven targeting where, as he writes, even data from a phone can become a death sentence.
    Further reading & resources:
    Inside Israel’s AI targeting system: How data from a phone become a death sentence — Nabih Bulos, The Los Angeles Times, May 2026
    Watch the interview on our YouTube channel
    Catch up on episodes of Computer Says Kill, our series on AI, warfare, and power 
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    Computer Says Maybe is produced by Georgia Iacovou, Kushal Dev, Marion Wellington, Sarah Myles, Van Newman, and Zoe Trout
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    Computer Says Kill: Anthropic is NOT the Good Guy w/ Madeline Batt

    22/05/2026 | 41 mins.
    Anthropic’s AI systems have been used in illegal American invasions in Iran and Venezuela. They have partnered with Musk in the disastrous Memphis Colossus facility. And yet! News coverage, some civil society, and a lot of normies act like Anthropic is one of the good guys. They aren’t!
    More like this: The Toxic Love Triangle of Big Tech, Big War & Big Science w/ David Gray Widder

    For part six of Computer Says Kill, we are joined by legal fellow Maddy Batt, who filed an amicus brief in the courtroom battle between Anthropic and the US Department of War. We talk about what we know from the lawsuit, what we know about how AI is being used in illegal invasions, and what might be possible for corporate accountability.
    Further reading & resources:
    The amicus brief filed by Tech Justice Law
    Buy Project Maven by Katrina Manson
    Autonomised Harming — Linda Eggert, July 2023
    Autonomous Weapons Systems and Human Rights — Linda Eggert, July 2024
    Moral Crumple Zones: Cautionary Tales in Human-Robot Interaction — Madeleine Clare Elish, 2019
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    Computer Says Maybe is produced by Georgia Iacovou, Kushal Dev, Marion Wellington, Sarah Myles, Van Newman, and Zoe Trout
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    Computer Says Kill: The Toxic Love Triangle of Big Tech, Big War & Big Science w/ David Gray Widder

    15/05/2026 | 37 mins.
    Academia, Big Tech, and the military are caught in a sordid love triangle — and their love language is money.
    More like this: Computer Says Kill: The Blank Check to Beat China w/ Lis Siegel

    For part five of Computer Says Kill, researcher David Widder describes the powerful trifecta that is academia, Big Tech, and the US military: all of them need each other to survive, but who is benefiting the most? Half of Carnegie Mellon’s research funding comes from the DoW or the DHS — and David will explain how it’s being used to both prop up war apparatus, and serve as an on-ramp to Big Tech platforms.
    Further reading & resources:
    It’s about power: What ethical concerns do software engineers have, and what do they (feel they can) do about them? — David Widder et al, June 2023
    Basic Research, Lethal Effects: Military AI Research Funding as Enlistment — David Widder et al
    Open (For Business): Big Tech, Concentrated Power, and the Political Economy of Open AI — David Widder, Sarah West, Meredith Whittaker, August 2023 
    To Build Our Future, We Must Know Our Past: Contextualizing Paradigm Shifts in Natural Language Processing — Sireesh Gururaja, Amanda Bertsch, Clara Na, David Widder, Emma Strubell, December 2023
    What Tech Calls Thinking by Adrian Daub
    The Undone Computer Science Conference
    Computer-vision research powers surveillance technology — Nature Magazine, June 2025
    What’s happening in Memphis with Anthropic? — The Maybe Media
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    Computer Says Maybe is produced by Georgia Iacovou, Kushal Dev, Marion Wellington, Sarah Myles, Van Newman, and Zoe Trout
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    Computer Says Kill: The Blank Check to Beat China w/ Lis Siegel

    08/05/2026 | 43 mins.
    The US is in a race to ‘beat China’ at AI. Or is it? What if I told you that powerful actors in the US have built the story of an all-or-nothing race to get what they want?
    More like this: Computer Says Kill: A License for Unlimited War w/ Amos Toh

    In part four of Computer Says Kill we are joined by Lis Siegel who shares the history. We start with a document produced by China in 2017, and arrive at today when the Chinese bogeyman is being used to drive money, political influence and supply chain control to a few US tech giants. Listen in for some insight into how we got here.
    Further reading & resources:
    Examining AI Safety as a Global Public Good: Implications, Challenges, and Research Priorities — Lis Siegel et al, March 2025
    Silicon Valley enabled brutal mass detention and surveillance in China, internal documents show — AP News, September 2025
    A Dark-Money Campaign Is Paying Influencers to Frame Chinese AI as a Threat — Taylor Lorenz, Wired, May 2026
    Slogan Politics by Jinghan Zeng
    Breakneck: China’s Quest to Engineer the Future by Dan Wang
    Final Report from the National Security Commission for AI — 2021
    Yellow Techno-Peril: The ‘Clash of Civilizations’ and anti-Chinese racial rhetoric in the US–China AI arms race — Kerry McInerney 2024
    Bernie Sanders urges international cooperation to halt AI’s ‘runaway train’ — The Guardian, April 2026
    **Subscribe to our newsletter to get more stuff than just a podcast — we run events and do other work that you will definitely be interested in!**
    Computer Says Maybe is produced by Georgia Iacovou, Kushal Dev, Marion Wellington, Sarah Myles, Van Newman, and Zoe Trout
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Technology is changing fast. And it's changing our world even faster. Host Alix Dunn interviews visionaries, researchers, and technologists working in the public interest to help you keep up. Step outside the hype and explore the possibilities, problems, and politics of technology. We publish weekly.
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