This episode, I talk with Zixuan Li at Z.ai, one of China's top AI labs and the company behind the popular GLM models. Zixuan is Z.ai's Director of Product for genAI strategy and global partnerships. We discuss Z.ai's newest flagship AI model, the challenges of building agentic AI models, and what their longer AI strategy looks like.
00:00 Intro to Zixuan Li of Z.ai
00:29 GLM-5.1, Z.ai's Newest Flagship Model
04:34 Long Horizon Tasks
08:33 GLM Family of Foundation Models
14:30 Challenges in Developing Agentic AI Models
19:37 Working with Chinese AI Chipmakers
22:53 Open Source vs. Proprietary Models
36:49 Life After IPO and Chasing AGI
41:37 Z.ai's Global Strategy
Links:
Z.ai
GLM-5.1: Towards Long-Horizon Tasks
Zixuan on X/Twitter
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