Dave Morin, Jessica Lessin, Brit Morin, and Sam Lessin
Dave Morin, Jessica Lessin, Brit Morin, and Sam Lessin have debated the future of Silicon Valley and tech as the closest of friends for the last 15 years. Now s...
#78: 2024 Tech Company of the Year + 2025 Predictions
In this episode, the Morins & Lessins dive into the highs and lows of 2024 to uncover who came out on top.
Google made a strong showing, but are they well-positioned for the long haul? Waymo keeps moving the needle with self-driving cars and big moves in AI, making it a strong contender for years to come.
Apple? They’ve been a bit slow to innovate this year, but don’t count them out just yet. Meta really hit their stride in 2024, proving the naysayers wrong. AI? Check. Hardware? Check. Will they keep the momentum going?
Let’s get into it.
In this episode, the Morins & Lessins dive into the highs and lows of 2024 to uncover who came out on top.
Google made a strong showing, but are they well-positioned for the long haul? Waymo keeps moving the needle with self-driving cars and big moves in AI, making it a strong contender for years to come.
Apple? They’ve been a bit slow to innovate this year, but don’t count them out just yet. Meta really hit their stride in 2024, proving the naysayers wrong. AI? Check. Hardware? Check. Will they keep the momentum going?
Let’s get into it.
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1) Brit Morin: https://x.com/brit
2) Dave Morin: https://x.com/davemorin
3) Jessica Lessin: https://x.com/Jessicalessin
4) Sam Lessin: https://x.com/lessin
(00:00:00) Trailer + Introduction
(00:01:46) God bless capitalism
(00:04:08) A+ love story, 3-hour marathon
(00:07:32) 2024 Tech Outlook
(00:09:50) Why AI was transformative
(00:13:21) A major year for tech?
(00:17:55) A remarkable year for VC
(00:31:51) Waymo
(00:35:35) The company of the year
(00:53:29) 2025 Predictions
(01:03:20) Food, health, pop culture, sports
(01:08:15) Outro
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#77: Sora Reveal, Google's AI Agents and Digital Trade Under Trump
How will OpenAI's latest video technology affect the creator ecosystem? Could this new tech pave the way for a new type of entertainment?
Also in this episode ↓
- Does Google have a lead in the AI race?
- Should digital trade play a larger role in policy discussions?
- The End of the Eras Tour and Sam's Pink Pilates Princess Strut Pop Season
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3) Jessica Lessin: https://x.com/Jessicalessin
4) Sam Lessin: https://x.com/lessin
00:00 Trailer
01:24 Introduction
02:04 The Eras Tour
06:56 AI, TikTok, and Arrests
07:31 AI Video Debate
10:28 Creator Economy and AI Tools
16:10 Trust and Attention in Creator Businesses
19:24 Digital Drugs and AI Content
22:13 Spotify Wrapped and Music Trends
27:54 AI Agents
35:04 The Death of the Open Web?
39:42 Policy, Big Tech, and Digital Trade
48:29 Reflecting on Leadership in Media and Policy
52:18 Amazon Autos and Miata Chronicles
55:01 Outro
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#76: In a World with 99.99% Accurate AI… (feat. Aaron Levie)
What’s it like being the CEO of Box and a full-time internet meme lord? Well… ask Aaron Levie.
In this episode, he joins Jess, Dave, and Sam to answer:
• what it’s like being a “toxic Bitcoin maxi” as the price soars past $100k
• more or less M&A for MAANG
• how far we are from AGI
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5) Brit Morin: https://x.com/brit
00:00 Trailer
01:27 Introduction
05:26 Web3, Crypto Enthusiasm
13:44 Political Dynamics in Tech
22:27 Antitrust and Regulatory Challenges
34:59 The Future of AI in Enterprise Software
40:36 The Personal App Revolution
43:47 AI Accuracy
51:38 Killer Use Cases and Business Models
1:01:59 Future Predictions
1:05:02 Pop Culture Corner
1:07:10 Outro
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#75: The Rise of the Tech Bro
The artist vs. tech bros—classic tension or chaos ahead?
In EP 75, Brit, Dave, and Jess are joined by Matt Vascellaro as they dive into:
• Sora's leak and the fiery backlash from Hollywood
• The uneasy marriage of AI and art, and why the "right" UI still feels like chasing rainbows
• And, of course, the rise (and roast) of the Bay Area tech bro
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4) Jessica Lessin: https://x.com/Jessicalessin
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#74: Winding Down From a $400M Fundraise, or How to Move Forward After Forward (with Adrian Aoun)
Meet Adrian Aoun—an OG listener and one of Alphabet’s best-kept secrets. He recently wound down Forward, his company that set out to reinvent the doctor’s office with AI.
He joins Brit, Dave, and Jess in this episode to explore the exit, Adrian’s hardware + software play with CarePods, and what it means to create a generational company for healthcare.
Also on the agenda:
• is primary care venture-scalable?
• are Elon & Trump BFFs??
• Optimus for the military???
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3) Dave Morin: https://x.com/davemorin
4) Jessica Lessin: https://x.com/Jessicalessin
00:00:00 Trailer
00:01:17 Introduction
00:02:22 Navigating New York City
00:07:13 Some Silicon Valley history
00:11:05 More Or Less: Trump and Musk
00:15:36 Forward's Journey and Challenges
00:24:00 Healthcare Innovations and Market Shifts
00:30:07 Future of Healthcare and Business Models
00:43:39 Unwinding a company
00:47:31 Healthcare Technology Adoption
00:59:15 The Emotional and Logistical Aspects
01:01:55 Outro
Dave Morin, Jessica Lessin, Brit Morin, and Sam Lessin have debated the future of Silicon Valley and tech as the closest of friends for the last 15 years. Now six companies, two venture funds and more than a decade at Google, Apple and Facebook later, they are opening up the debate. From The Information, Offline Ventures, and Slow Ventures.
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