The Agile Brand with Greg Kihlström® | What CMOs Need to Know About Marketing Technology, AI & CX

What if the biggest barrier to scaling your retail media investment isn't technology, but a fundamental disagreement on what success even looks like?

Agility requires not just adopting new tools, but also being willing to challenge the measurement frameworks we've grown accustomed to.

Today, we're going to talk about the nuanced world of in-store retail media measurement and why the old rules no longer apply. Specifically, we'll cover:

- Why the standard approach to measuring in-store media, often borrowed from digital, is creating friction and stalling budget growth.
- How to create a unified measurement language that aligns brands, retailers, and agencies around a common definition of success.
- Practical steps to move in-store media from experimental budgets to scalable, repeatable investments grounded in actual product movement.

To help me discuss this topic and ISM and IAB's recent report, I'd like to welcome Paul Brenner, SVP, Global Retail Media and Partnerships at In-Store Marketplace (ISM) and Collin Colburn, Vice President, Commerce & Retail Media at IAB) and Collin Colburn, Vice President, Commerce & Retail Media at IAB.

About Paul Brenner
Paul Brenner is Senior Vice President of Retail Media and Partnerships with 25+ years of leadership in media, entertainment, and ad tech. He has led innovation in audio and broadcast, driving advancements in audience measurement, in-car experiences, and data attribution, and later scaling in-store audio advertising through strategic growth and partnerships. Known for identifying high-impact technology and revenue opportunities, Paul now focuses on evolving the in-store retail media landscape.
Paul Brenner on LinkedIn

About Collin Colburn
Collin Colburn serves as Vice President, Commerce & Retail Media at IAB where he leads the Commerce Center of Excellence. In this role, he drives innovation, education, and standards across the commerce ecosystem to help brands, retailers, and technology partners deliver better media opportunities, customer experiences, and business outcomes. Prior to IAB, Collin led Growth and Go-To-Market Strategy at Horizon Commerce and spent over a decade at Forrester, where he pioneered the firm’s performance marketing and retail media practice. He partnered with B2B and B2C CMOs to advance their marketing strategies, while also expanding Forrester’s Fortune 500 client portfolio. Collin’s insights have been featured in The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, Digiday, and MediaPost. A popular industry speaker, Collin has keynoted global industry events in addition to being a quarterly guest on Bloomberg TV.
Collin Colburn on LinkedIn

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In-Store Marketplace (ISM)

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What if the biggest screen in the home could be treated less like a billboard and more like a direct response channel?
Agility requires moving beyond the "set it and forget it" mindset of traditional media. It means having the data and the tools to react to performance signals in real-time, whether that's on a social feed or a living room screen.
Today, we're going to talk about unlocking the full potential of Connected TV. We'll explore how marketers can move beyond treating CTV as a simple awareness play and start leveraging it as a true performance channel, driven by first-party data and connected to a full-funnel measurement strategy.
To help me discuss this topic, I'd like to welcome Alison Clark, GTM/Strategy Lead at AdRoll.

About Alison Clarke
Alison Clark is the Head of GTM Sales Strategy for AdRoll. She developed her career building and scaling advertising solutions across digital and programmatic, with a focus on driving real results for clients. She is the AdRoll customer’s number one champion to inform CTV product priorities that solve your biggest challenges.

Alison Clarke on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alison-clark-7566265/

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What happens when your e-commerce platform treats your most valuable professional clients like everyday consumers?
Agility means looking past a platform's out-of-the-box features and building an experience that reflects how your different customer segments actually do business.
This episode is brought to you by The Office of Experience, a design-driven, digital-first, vertically integrated and collaborative agency that believes in the power of ideas and the strength of people. Learn more at www.officeofexperience.com
Today, we're talking about the complexity of building a single e-commerce experience for two very different audiences. Specifically, we'll explore:
- Balancing the distinct needs of B2B and B2C audiences on a single digital storefront.
- Knowing when to lean on an e-commerce platform's native capabilities versus when to invest in custom development to close critical experience gaps.
- Integrating physical retail and showroom data, like real-time local inventory, into a seamless digital experience.
To help me discuss this topic, I'd like to welcome, Jenna Kennedy, Senior Director, Client Strategy & PMO at Office of Experience and William Webster, General Manager, Guy Gunter Home.

About Jenna Kennedy
Jenna Kennedy is Senior Director, Client Strategy & PMO at Office of Experience, where she has spent roughly 11 years of a 20-year agency career focused on project management and client relationships across branding, digital marketing, and e-commerce. Office of Experience is a design-driven, digital-first, vertically integrated and collaborative agency that works with businesses at points of transformation — entering new markets, launching products, or changing how they go to market — across branding, UX/UI design, site builds, conversion optimization, and e-commerce capability.
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jennabkennedy

About William Webster
William Webster is General Manager of Guy Gunter Home, part of PDI, where he has worked for over 12 years. He previously served as Director of Sales for PDI's e-commerce and showroom channel, overseeing showroom storefronts and the e-commerce department, after a regional stint serving retail clients across PDI's showrooms. PDI has been in business since 1973 and operates more than 25 locations.
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/william-webster-67773768/

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: https://www.officeofexperience.com

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For about a decade, a customer data platform's job was to be the place your customer data lived. What happens to that job when the most valuable thing a system can do goes beyond remembering and evolves to deciding and acting?

Agility, in a category that's been declared dead more than once, isn't chasing whatever the market renames itself this quarter. It's being able to change what your product does without losing the thing your company is actually good at.

Today we're going to talk about what it takes to evolve a category from the inside. Specifically:
- Why fifteen years of data infrastructure turned out to be an advantage rather than baggage to shed.
- What actually changes — in the product and in the company — when a system stops solely storing customer data and starts acting on it.
- Where the line sits between a marketer steering an agent and a system running on its own.

This conversation also kicks off a four-part series we're running this week with the product team at Treasure AI: four leaders, four vantage points: the vision, the roadmap, the operational reality, and the design.

To help me start it off, I'd like to welcome Rafa Flores, Chief Product and Growth Officer at Treasure AI.

About Rafael Flores
As a proud immigrant from Honduras, Rafael's journey is rooted in three core values passed down from his family: the power of education, treating everyone with dignity—no matter their background—and lifting up the next generation. Once he was an wide-eyed kid with big dreams, and today, he's living them. He's dedicated his career to scaling SaaS companies from startup spark to high-growth success. At Meltwater, he played a key role in driving product innovation and market readiness that led to a successful IPO. At Datanyze, he led strategic initiatives that culminated in an acquisition by ZoomInfo—boosting their data intelligence footprint. At ARM, he spearheaded innovation in Retail SDK and IoT, opening new frontiers in connected experiences. And at 6sense, he led all automation, data, and AI-powered products, building inclusive teams and solutions that empower GTM leaders to sell smarter. At Treasure Data, he helped orchestrate a landmark $600M acquisition by ARM and secured record-breaking funding for the Customer Data Platform. Now, he's back—leading Treasure Data into a new era of intelligence and automation built for scale. It’s more than a comeback; it’s a homecoming. This is a team he deeply believes in—brilliant, driven, and purposeful. Beyond tech, he's a devoted father of three and married to a registered nurse whose compassion and strength inspires him every day. My expertise lies in product strategy, CDPs, data privacy, and scaling GTM solutions—from agile startups to Global 2000 enterprises. He's passionate about solving hard problems with technology, driving sustainable growth, and mentoring rising product leaders. As a member of the Forbes Technology Council, he aims to share insights, spark dialogue, and help shape the future of innovation—one conversation, and one leader, at a time.

Rafael Flores on LinkedIn

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Whose job is it to ensure the brand promise you market is the same one your customers and employees actually experience?
Real agility isn't just rapid execution — it's a whole organization responding as one to what customers, employees, and the market actually need.
Today, we're talking about "Total Experience" and what it takes to make brand, customer, and employee experience add up to one company, not three. Specifically:
- How to orchestrate brand, customer, and employee experience so they reinforce each other instead of competing.
- The operational shifts that turn siloed functions into a single, trustworthy experience.
- Why the CMO is uniquely positioned to champion this, and where that means owning parts of the business marketing hasn't traditionally touched.
To help me discuss this topic, I'd like to welcome Mack McGee, CMO at CareFirst, which was recently recognized at Forrester’s CX Forum West as the top insurer in Total Experience.

About Mack McGee
With more than 20 years of experience in marketing and storytelling, Mack excels at connecting people and communicating impact in creative and meaningful ways. He also brings extensive fundraising experience, evidenced by his success in helping the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation raise nearly $5 million as chair of their annual Passion for Food and Wine event.
Mack McGee on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mackmcgee/

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: https://www.carefirst.com

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