The Master Investor Podcast with Wilfred Frost

Wilfred Frost is joined by Louis Gave, the founding partner and CEO of Gavekal, one of the world’s leading independent research firms. With a focus on the shifting geopolitical landscape, Gave outlines why traditional investment assumptions – from the safety of US Treasuries to the dominance of US tech & defence stocks – are being fundamentally upended, and why China is screamingly cheap.

The Middle East & The Inflationary "Air Pocket": Louis analyzes the ongoing conflict in the Middle East, noting that even a diplomatic resolution will leave a two-month "air pocket" in global supply chains. He argues that the resulting inflationary shock is definitely coming, and while it might be priced into commodities it isn’t priced into equities and bonds.

The US-China Reset: Amidst these dark clouds, Gave identifies a potential silver lining: the economic pressure of inflation may force a "positive reset" in US-China relations. He suggests that both nations are now "condemned to get along" to avoid simultaneous inflationary shocks. He also wonders whether it might force Europe to finally adopt sensible energy policies.

The Death of the "Capital-Light" Model: Louis offers a provocative take on the US market and the AI boom. He explains how the world’s most successful "platform companies" (like Microsoft and Amazon) are shifting from capital-light models to massive capital intensity, questioning if their 35x earnings valuations remain justified. 

The Bull Case for China: Contrary to popular sentiment, Gave argues that China is structurally undervalued. “China has the lowest cost of capital, the lowest cost labour, the lowest cost of electricity, and has the world's cheapest currency and it's not even close. And that makes for a very powerful combination.” He also thinks they are the economy best prepared for the Iran War.

The Changing Face of Warfare: Louis explains his bearish stance on traditional defense stocks, arguing that the age of the "$275 million fighter jet" is being replaced by the age of the "$50,000 drone". He compares the current defense industry giants to IBM in the era of the personal computer. 

Sovereign Vulnerabilities: A look at why the bond markets in the UK, France, and the US are uniquely vulnerable due to their reliance on "the kindness of strangers" (foreign investors) rather than domestic savings. 

Finally he reflects on his overriding investment advice for listeners. "The first thing you have to know as an investor is to know yourself... making sure to not put yourself in the situation where you're going to make the wrong decisions."

Recorded 29th April 2026

You can watch the full video on The Master Investor Podcast YouTube channel

 

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Sponsored by BNY Investments, Interactive Brokers - ibkr.com/masterinvestor, The World Gold Council and London Stock Exchange Group (LSEG). 

 

The Master Investor Podcast is produced by Paradine Productions, Master Investor Ltd in association with Bird Lime Media.

 

This podcast is for information purposes only. It does not constitute an invitation or inducement to engage in any investment activity. It is not a financial promotion as defined under section 21 of the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (FSMA). The views expressed by the presenter of this podcast are those of the presenter and are provided in the course of journalism. This podcast benefits from the exemption under Article 20 of the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Financial Promotion) Order 2005 (FPO), It does not require approval by a person authorised under the FSMA. Generic information, not identifying any specific investment, fund, provider or service, about a class of investments such as shares, bonds, derivatives and cryptoassets, might be provided and/or discussed during this podcast. Such discussion falls within the generic promotions exemption (Article 17 of the FPO). Such discussion is not a financial promotion requiring approval by an authorised person under section 21 of the FSMA. Investing involves risk. You should consult a suitably qualified adviser who can assess your individual circumstances before making any investment decision.

Stephanie Link, Chief Investment Officer and Portfolio Manager at Hightower Advisors, returns to The Master Investor Podcast to offer a constructive, theme-driven, bullish case for US equities. She explains why she has repeatedly “bought the dip” at moments of crisis – from the Silicon Valley Bank collapse and April 2025 ‘Liberation Day’ lows through to the recent March 2026 Iran war sell-off – arguing that investors who sell at such points historically miss out on very large subsequent gains. Her conviction rests on a still-resilient US consumer, a solid labour market, healthy bank balance sheets, and AI-driven capex – albeit with the clear caveat that a war lasting months rather than weeks could see higher energy and input costs eventually squeeze spending.

The core of Link’s optimism is what she calls the AI “food chain”: a massive, multi-year capital-expenditure boom driven by the big tech platforms that ripples out through data centres, grid upgrades and power generation. She notes that the world will likely need to drastically increase the number of data centres in the coming years, requiring huge investment in infrastructure and specialised engineering talent, and she believes this AI build-out alone could add around 2 percentage points to economic growth. This leads her to favour semiconductors (with long-term positions like Broadcom and a current preference for Marvell), industrials and infrastructure names such as Vertiv, as well as mission-critical software and cybersecurity providers that stand to benefit from AI-driven complexity and rising security needs.

Frost also revisits a scorecard of Link’s prior stock picks from July 2025 – including big wins like Vertiv, and more mixed outcomes like Palo Alto Networks and Uber – giving her the chance to reaffirm and refine her views. She remains positive on Palo Alto after a burst of dealmaking and insider buying, has added to ServiceNow after a sharp pullback, and continues to like D.R. Horton as a cheap way to play pent-up US housing demand once mortgage rates move sustainably into the low-5% range. At the index level, she acknowledges that S&P 500 valuations are not cheap but points out that earnings estimates are rising, particularly in her favoured AI-linked sectors, and argues that investors should stay focused on decade-long themes, using volatility to add selectively rather than retreating in the face of short-term macro and geopolitical shocks.

 

Recorded 27th April 2026

 

You can watch the full video on The Master Investor Podcast YouTube channel

 

And follow @WilfredFrost on X and Linked In

 

Sponsored by BNY Investments, Interactive Brokers - ibkr.com/masterinvestor, The World Gold Council and London Stock Exchange Group (LSEG). 

 

The Master Investor Podcast is produced by Paradine Productions, Master Investor Ltd in association with Bird Lime Media.

 

This podcast is for information purposes only. It does not constitute an invitation or inducement to engage in any investment activity. It is not a financial promotion as defined under section 21 of the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (FSMA). The views expressed by the presenter of this podcast are those of the presenter and are provided in the course of journalism. This podcast benefits from the exemption under Article 20 of the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Financial Promotion) Order 2005 (FPO), It does not require approval by a person authorised under the FSMA. Generic information, not identifying any specific investment, fund, provider or service, about a class of investments such as shares, bonds, derivatives and cryptoassets, might be provided and/or discussed during this podcast. Such discussion falls within the generic promotions exemption (Article 17 of the FPO). Such discussion is not a financial promotion requiring approval by an authorised person under section 21 of the FSMA. Investing involves risk. You should consult a suitably qualified adviser who can assess your individual circumstances before making any investment decision.

Jeremy Grantham is one of the greatest investors of all time, and is famous for correctly identifying the four major stock market bubbles of his 60 year investment career. He joins Wilf to discuss the key ideas of his new book The Making of a Perma Bear: The Perils of Long-Term Investing in a Short-Term World and what they mean for investors today.

Jeremy and Wilf explore the factors that drove him to admire value stocks; what makes for good idea generation and decision making when it comes to investing; and the factors he identified that academics missed. 

In particular they explore why quality stocks and momentum remain persistent – and often misunderstood – market inefficiencies, and why this created the opportunity for the extraordinary outperformance he delivered at the firm he founded – GMO (Grantham, Mayo, & van Otterloo). But they also discuss why value is the ultimate gravitational market force that delivers performance over the long term.

Looking at today’s environment, Grantham assesses the Iran War’s impact on oil prices, AI, meme stocks and the “Magnificent Seven”, drawing parallels with 1970s, 1999, 2007 and the post-Covid boom. He sets out the conditions he believes typically lead to a bubble bursting and also tackles longer-term headwinds – from demographics and de-globalisation to climate damage and geopolitical risk – arguing  that these are fundamentally at odds with the near-record valuations investors are currently paying.

Along the way, Grantham discusses his early role in the birth of index investing; his respect for Warren Buffett and Jack Bogle; why most institutions will never tell clients to get out before a crash; and how to know when to “reinvest when terrified”. 

This is a candid, insightful masterclass from one of the defining investment thinkers of the last half-century.

Recorded Monday 13th April 2026. 

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If you’d like to attend the upcoming Master Investor Show in London on Saturday 25 April, where I’ll be interviewing Jim Mellon amongst others, with over 5000 like minded investors in attendance, then click the link below and use code “MIPOD” for a free ticket: 

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Sponsored by BNY Investments, Interactive Brokers - ibkr.com/masterinvestor, The World Gold Council and London Stock Exchange Group (LSEG). 

 

The Master Investor Podcast is produced by Paradine Productions, Master Investor Ltd in association with Bird Lime Media.

 

This podcast is for information purposes only. It does not constitute an invitation or inducement to engage in any investment activity. It is not a financial promotion as defined under section 21 of the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (FSMA). The views expressed by the presenter of this podcast are those of the presenter and are provided in the course of journalism. This podcast benefits from the exemption under Article 20 of the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Financial Promotion) Order 2005 (FPO), It does not require approval by a person authorised under the FSMA. Generic information, not identifying any specific investment, fund, provider or service, about a class of investments such as shares, bonds, derivatives and cryptoassets, might be provided and/or discussed during this podcast. Such discussion falls within the generic promotions exemption (Article 17 of the FPO). Such discussion is not a financial promotion requiring approval by an authorised person under section 21 of the FSMA. Investing involves risk. You should consult a suitably qualified adviser who can assess your individual circumstances before making any investment decision.

Wilfred Frost welcomes back Larry McDonald, founder of The Bear Traps Report and bestselling author of “A Colossal Failure of Common Sense” (2009) and “How to Listen When Markets Speak” (2024), for a timely, in-person conversation in London. 

Larry thinks the SP500 is “a screaming sell” and would use the post Iran War ceasefire announcement as an opportunity to sell the index, especially Mag7 tech names, which he continues to view as wildly overpriced.

But he would use the dip in energy stocks post-ceasefire as a buying opportunity. Larry explains why he believes we are still only in the “second or third inning” of the hard-asset super-cycle that has already seen outsized gains in precious metals, energy and other real-asset plays like copper since his latest book was published in March 2024, which called for buying hard assets over financial assets.

 

If you’d like to attend the upcoming Master Investor Show in London on Saturday 25 April, where I’ll be interviewing Jim Mellon amongst others, with over 5000 like minded investors in attendance, then click the link below and use code “MIPOD” for a free ticket: 

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Bottom line with the Iran war, Larry argues the latter order effects of the war - particularly the six-week surge in energy prices - are being underestimated, and are likely to drive a major inflation spike later this year. He thinks Wall Street’s muscle memory and recency bias – which led to a major rally when President Trump unwound his April 2025 Liberation Day tariffs – are fuelling a wave of excess optimism around the Middle East, when in reality, the situation is far more complex and unlikely to unwind so neatly.

He and Wilf also dig into why - for the first time ever - he is a buyer of Bitcoin (albeit as a short term trade rather than long term strategy); why the rebuilds in Ukraine, Gaza and Iran are still underappreciated and will drive metals like copper higher; why Microsoft has further to fall before it is attractive; why certain emerging market bonds are vulnerable here; and the “evils” of passive investing.

 

You can watch the full video on The Master Investor Podcast YouTube channel

 

And follow @WilfredFrost on X and Linked In

 

Sponsored by BNY Investments, Interactive Brokers - ibkr.com/masterinvestor, The World Gold Council and London Stock Exchange Group (LSEG). 

 

The Master Investor Podcast is produced by Paradine Productions, Master Investor Ltd in association with Bird Lime Media.

 

Wilf has positions in the OIH and FCG ETFs mentioned in this episode.

 

This podcast is for information purposes only. It does not constitute an invitation or inducement to engage in any investment activity. It is not a financial promotion as defined under section 21 of the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (FSMA). The views expressed by the presenter of this podcast are those of the presenter and are provided in the course of journalism. This podcast benefits from the exemption under Article 20 of the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Financial Promotion) Order 2005 (FPO), It does not require approval by a person authorised under the FSMA. Generic information, not identifying any specific investment, fund, provider or service, about a class of investments such as shares, bonds, derivatives and cryptoassets, might be provided and/or discussed during this podcast. Such discussion falls within the generic promotions exemption (Article 17 of the FPO). Such discussion is not a financial promotion requiring approval by an authorised person under section 21 of the FSMA. Investing involves risk. You should consult a suitably qualified adviser who can assess your individual circumstances before making any investment decision.

In this episode of The Master Investor Podcast, Wilfred Frost sits down with Peter Boockvar, CIO of OnePoint BFG Wealth Partners and editor of The Boock Report, to dissect what the Iran War means for markets - highlighting the stocks and commodities poised to benefit, and the rallies investors should be cautious of.

Peter shares his view thesis on why inflation was proving far more persistent than markets and central banks were willing to admit even before the war, and explains why this Iran War energy shock and renewed supply disruptions threaten to push PPI and CPI higher and global growth lower, with shortages in everything from jet fuel to fertilizers which threaten to trigger COVID-style hits to GDP in multiple regions. 

He then lays out where he sees the most compelling opportunities and risks across asset classes. He sees gold as a “source of funds” in the short term, but still very attractive longer term; oil he doesn’t see settling back down to $65 regardless of when the war ends, and sees $80-85 long term which means oil companies should be bought on any pullback; and he sees agriculture as the commodity bull market for next year. 

He makes the case for international equities - especially in the UK - which he views as chronically undervalued, while expressing caution of all developed markets long-duration bonds, while loving some EM debt, like that of Brazil. 

 

Whether you are worried about the next inflation spike or looking for ways to position a portfolio for a world of higher prices, tighter supply and shifting market leadership, this conversation offers a clear, actionable framework for the months and years ahead.

If you would like to subscribe to The Boock Report, please visit  peterboockvar.substack.com

You can watch the full video on The Master Investor Podcast YouTube channel

 

And follow @WilfredFrost on X and Linked In

 

Sponsored by BNY Investments, Interactive Brokers - ibkr.com/masterinvestor, The World Gold Council and London Stock Exchange Group (LSEG). 

 

The Master Investor Podcast is produced by Paradine Productions, Master Investor Ltd in association with Bird Lime Media.

 

This podcast is for information purposes only. It does not constitute an invitation or inducement to engage in any investment activity. It is not a financial promotion as defined under section 21 of the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (FSMA). The views expressed by the presenter of this podcast are those of the presenter and are provided in the course of journalism. This podcast benefits from the exemption under Article 20 of the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Financial Promotion) Order 2005 (FPO), It does not require approval by a person authorised under the FSMA. Generic information, not identifying any specific investment, fund, provider or service, about a class of investments such as shares, bonds, derivatives and cryptoassets, might be provided and/or discussed during this podcast. Such discussion falls within the generic promotions exemption (Article 17 of the FPO). Such discussion is not a financial promotion requiring approval by an authorised person under section 21 of the FSMA. Investing involves risk. You should consult a suitably qualified adviser who can assess your individual circumstances before making any investment decision.