Are Frameworks Still Worth the Tradeoffs? w/ Adam Rackis
This week, Chuck talks with Adam Rackis live from React Miami. Along with special guest-host Aaron Francis, they dig into React Server Components, the quirks of modern JavaScript frameworks, and why TanStack might be the future. Sipping an Appleton Estate Rum, they swap hot takes, get candid about developer trends, tech philosophies, and share some unexpected guilty pleasures.In this episode:(00:00) - Intro(02:37) - Rum tasting and review: Appleton Estate(11:27) - Hot Take: Why Adam is cooling off on React Server Components(14:56) - What makes TanStack the most exciting tool in frontend?(16:52) - Are we still chasing SSR for the right reasons?(21:26) - Comparing frameworks: Laravel, Next.js, Redwood & more(24:34) - Should you pay for Auth or build it yourself?(25:13) - Why does the JS community resist “batteries-included” frameworks?(27:54) - A look at Adam’s React Miami talk: From PHP to RSC(30:45) - Hot Take: classes vs hooks(33:31) - Adam’s military background(35:08) - Milestones: Spotify, marriage, and careers(36:56) - Has Disney ruined Star Wars?(38:17) - Guilty pleasures: Jackass, Fast & Furious, and more(43:29) - If not tech, what would Adam do instead?(44:05) - PlugsLinksAppleton Estate Rum: https://appletonestate.com/React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/Spotify: https://spotify.com/Riot Games: https://www.riotgames.com/Ron Zacapa 23: https://www.zacaparum.com/Laravel: https://laravel.com/Postgres: https://www.postgresql.org/Ken Wheeler: https://x.com/ken_wheeler/Disney: https://www.disney.com/Vercel: https://vercel.com/Next.js: https://nextjs.org/Django: https://www.djangoproject.com/Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/TanStack: https://tanstack.com/Remix: https://remix.run/Svelte: https://svelte.dev/HTMX: https://htmx.org/Vue: https://vuejs.org/Dan Abramov: https://github.com/gaearonInertia: https://inertiajs.com/Sam Selikoff: https://x.com/samselikoffRyan Florence: https://x.com/ryanflorenceBig Sky Dev Con: https://bigskydevcon.com/Drizzle: https://orm.drizzle.team/RedwoodJS: https://redwoodjs.com/Tom Preston-Werner: https://x.com/mojomboClerk: https://clerk.com/Auth0: https://auth0.com/NextAuth.js: https://next-auth.js.org/Better-Auth: https://www.better-auth.com/OpenAuth: https://openauth.js.org/Prisma: https://www.prisma.io/WorkOS: https://workos.com/Ember: https://emberjs.com/Backbonejs: https://backbonejs.org/Air Force Academy: https://www.usafa.edu/Star Wars: https://www.starwars.com/The Mandalorian: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_MandalorianFast & Furious: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_%26_FuriousJackass: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackass_(franchise)Laravel Cloud: https://cloud.laravel.com/TanStack Router: https://tanstack.com/router/latestScreencasting.com: https://screencasting.com/Connect with AdamWebsite: https://adamrackis.dev/X / Twitter: https://x.com/AdamRackisConnect with Chuck and RobbieRobbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagnerChuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rdSubscribe and stay in touchWebsite: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDfOvercast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnotWhiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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WTF is MCP? w/ David Cramer
This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with David Cramer about MCP—microservices for language models—and why it might be the future of AI tooling. They dig into the state of AI agents, developer efficiency, and why Codegen isn’t killing jobs anytime soon.In this episode:(00:00) - Intro(02:47) - Whiskey review and rating(17:12) - Hot Take: Syntax.fm vs Whiskey Web and Whatnot?(18:06) - Hot Take: Rails vs Laravel(20:27) - Hot Take: Taco Bell vs Del Taco(22:36) - What exactly is "MCP"?(29:55) - Can you leverage AI to build SaaS for you?(38:21) - React Miami(40:27) - Rum and snacks(47:12) - Chuck is moving to Italy(50:18) - David's Sim racing rig(54:33) - PlugsLinksWoodford Reserve Double Double Oaked: https://www.woodfordreserve.com/whiskey/double-double-oaked/Jack Daniels Single Barrel Rye: https://www.jackdaniels.com/en-us/whiskey/single-barrel-ryeHigh West: https://highwest.com/Norlan: https://norlanglass.com/Syntax: https://syntax.fmSentry: https://sentry.ioRails: https://rubyonrails.org/Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/Typescript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/Laravel: https://laravel.com/Python: https://www.python.org/DHH: https://x.com/dhh/Laracon: https://laracon.us/37signals: https://37signals.com/Taco Bell: https://www.tacobell.com/Del Taco: https://deltaco.com/Chick-fil-A: https://www.chick-fil-a.com/In-N-Out: https://www.in-n-out.com/React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/Aaron Francis: https://x.com/aarondfrancisCursor: https://www.cursor.com/Codegen: https://codegen.com/Figma: https://www.figma.com/Assassin's Creed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassin%27s_CreedTesla: https://www.tesla.com/Dax: https://x.com/thdxr/Guillermo Rauch: https://x.com/rauchgEve 6: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eve_6Payload: https://payloadcms.com/Chris Hemsworth: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_HemsworthNVidia: https://www.nvidia.com/Porsche: porsche.comConnect with DavidWebsite: https://cra.mr/X / Twitter: https://x.com/zeegConnect with Chuck and RobbieRobbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagnerChuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rdSubscribe and stay in touchWebsite: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDfOvercast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnotWhiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Vibe Podcasting: App Rewrites, AI Assistants, PB&Js, and more!
This week, Robbie and Chuck talk about American whiskey, buttered PB&Js, and the quirks of AI coding assistants. They swap TV recommendations, debate developer priorities like security and rewrites, and more.In this episode:(00:00) - Intro(02:43) - Whiskey review and rating: Union Horse Distilling Co Rolling Standard Four Grain Whiskey(13:59) - Hot Take: butter on a PB&J?(18:12) - Do we care about security in our applications?(23:23) - Challenges with AI tools(27:44) - The evolution of developer tools(28:09) - AI's role in software development(33:39) - Chuck's complications with moving to Italy(36:36) - Should we drop Severence?(40:25) - Jedi Survivor and gaming(47:35) - Game to film adaptations(50:57) - Robbie on his new jobLinksUnion Horse Distilling Co Rolling Standard Four Grain Whiskey: https://www.unionhorse.com/CouplaBeers - SNL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUPSTQSGb50The Food That Built America: https://www.history.com/shows/the-food-that-built-americaHashiCorp: https://www.hashicorp.com/IBM: https://www.ibm.com/Astro: https://astro.build/Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/React: https://react.dev/Ember: https://emberjs.com/Laravel: https://laravel.com/Next.js: https://nextjs.org/Your Terminal Is Getting Smarter with Ben Holmes: https://whiskey.fm/your-terminal-is-getting-smarter-with-ben-holmesWarp: https://www.warp.dev/Windsurf: https://windsurf.ai/Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilotClaude: https://claude.aiv0: https://v0.dev/Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/Nespresso: https://www.nespresso.com/Severance: https://tv.apple.com/us/show/severance/umc.cmc.1srk2goyh2q2zdxcx605w8vtxSilo: https://tv.apple.com/us/show/silo/umc.cmc.3yksgc857px0k0rqe5zd4jiceBefore: https://tv.apple.com/us/show/before/umc.cmc.4uwoba1ftlsr5da94wc98ilscWhite Lotus: https://www.hbo.com/the-white-lotusNo Country For Old Men: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Country_for_Old_MenJedi Survivor: https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-survivorJedi Fallen Order: https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-fallen-orderFIFA: https://www.fifa.com/Zelda: https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/games/zelda-gamesSkyrim: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_V:_SkyrimROG Ally: https://rog.asus.com/gaming-handhelds/rog-ally/rog-ally-2023/Steamdeck: https://store.steampowered.com/steamdeck/Manchester United: https://www.manutd.com/Starfield: https://bethesda.net/en/game/starfieldThe Mandalorian: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_MandalorianThe Book of Boba Fett: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Boba_FettAndor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andor_(TV_series)Sekelton Crew: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Skeleton_CrewEwoks: The Battle for Endor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ewoks:_The_Battle_for_EndorKnights of the Old Republic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Knights_of_the_Old_RepublicNintendo Switch 2: https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2Mario Kart World: https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/featured-games/mario-kart-world/The Super Mario Bros. Movie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Super_Mario_Bros._MovieDonkey Kong Bananza: https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/featured-games/donkey-kong-bananza/Avatar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar_(2009_film)Norlan Glass: https://norlanglass.com/Lenovo: https://www.lenovo.com/React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/Connect with Chuck and RobbieRobbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagnerChuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rdSubscribe and stay in touchWebsite: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDfOvercast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnotWhiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Your Terminal Is Getting Smarter with Ben Holmes
This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Ben Holmes—Astro core team alum and now at Warp—about the rapid evolution of developer tools, the promise and quirks of AI-powered coding, and why he’s betting big on terminal UX.In this episode:(00:00) - Intro(02:09) - Warp and dev tools(04:20) - Whiskey intro and rating: Heaven Hill Grain To Glass Kentucky Straight Rye(15:47) - Hot Take: inferred types vs explicit types(17:11) - What Cursor AI gets right (and wrong)(23:12) - Pros and cons of Windsurf(25:02) - Hot Take: git rebase vs git merge(27:27) - Vim Motions and The Vim Gym(30:45) - Hot Take: sidebar on the left or right in VS Code(34:40) - Specialize or generalize?(44:01) - Frameworks vs doing your own thing(48:21) - The MBA journey(52:06) - Ben's connection to Peloton(53:12) - PlugsLinksHeaven Hill Grain To Glass Kentucky Straight Rye: https://heavenhilldistillery.com/Astro: https://astro.build/Warp: https://www.warp.dev/Norlan: https://norlanglass.com/Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/Windsurf: https://windsurf.ai/Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilotCline: https://cline.bot/Claude: https://claude.ai/Ghostty: https://ghostty.org/Vim Motions: https://www.barbarianmeetscoding.com/boost-your-coding-fu-with-vscode-and-vim/moving-blazingly-fast-with-the-core-vim-motions/Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/Vue: https://vuejs.org/Svelte: https://svelte.dev/Ember: https://emberjs.com/NeoVim: https://neovim.io/Primeagen: https://x.com/ThePrimeagenJason Lengstorf: https://x.com/jlengstorfVision Pro: https://www.apple.com/apple-vision-pro/JSWorld: https://jsworldconference.com/Final Cut Pro: https://www.apple.com/final-cut-pro/CapCut: https://www.capcut.com/DHH: https://x.com/dhh/University of Alabama: https://www.ua.edu/Georgia Tech: https://www.gatech.edu/Connect with BenWebsite: https://bholmes.dev/X / Twitter: https://x.com/bholmesdevConnect with Chuck and RobbieRobbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagnerChuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rdSubscribe and stay in touchWebsite: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDfOvercast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnotWhiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Inside Sagamore: The Revival of Maryland Rye with Clint Spotleson
This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Clint Spotleson of Sagamore Spirit about the craft behind their unique Manhattan Finish Rye, the history of Maryland-style whiskey, and why great whiskey is meant to be shared. Clint shares stories from his journey through the spirits industry, his passion for whiskey, and what makes Sagamore stand out in a crowded market.In this episode:(00:00) – Intro(02:07) – Whiskey intro and rating: Sagamore Manhattan Finish Rye Whiskey(15:53) – The history and production of Sagamore Rye(18:49) – Whiskey culture and collecting(22:38) – Sagamore’s unique bottling and branding(29:35) – Whiskey tasting techniques and anecdotes(33:30) – Old school steakhouses(34:59) – Sagamore Spirit WWW barrel pick(40:08) – Is it a waste to use a good whiskey in a cocktail?(42:13) – Sneaker collections and preferences(47:52) – Italy and speaking Italian(51:25) – All about pizza(54:02) – What would Clint do if not in the whiskey business?(56:50) – PlugsLinksSagamore Spirit: https://sagamorespirit.com/Ryan Norwood: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-norwood-91641562/Norlan: https://norlanglass.com/Buffalo Trace: https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/Jack Rose: https://www.jackrosediningsaloon.com/Kevin Plank: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_PlankUnder Armour: https://www.underarmour.com/The Baltimore Sun: https://www.baltimoresun.com/Hammer and Nails: https://hammerandnailsgrooming.com/Durant's: https://durantsaz.com/Goodfellas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GoodfellasJordans: https://www.nike.com/jordanYeezy: https://www.goat.com/collections/yeezyAdidas: https://www.adidas.com/Nike: https://www.nike.com/Frank's Hot Sauce: https://www.franksredhot.com/Ghost of Tsushima: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_of_TsushimaDishonored: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DishonoredConnect with ClintWebsite: https://sagamorespirit.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theonlyspottyConnect with Chuck and RobbieRobbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagnerChuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rdSubscribe and stay in touchWebsite: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDfOvercast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnotWhiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
About Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Web Development, Neat
Veteran web developers RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III host this informal, whiskey-fueled fireside chat with your favorite web devs. They discuss all things web development including JavaScript, TypeScript, EmberJS, React, Astro, SolidJS, CSS, HTML, Web3, and more. They take a unique approach and focus on getting to know the human side of developers and their hobbies outside of work, all while sampling a new whiskey that they rate on their unique tentacle scale.