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728. Mary Shutan
Mary Mueller Shutan is a spiritual healer, teacher, and author. She is the author of The Spiritual Awakening Guide: Kundalini, Psychic Abilities, and the Conditioned Layers of Reality Managing Psychic Abilities: A Real World Guide for the Highly Sensitive Person Shadow Work for the Soul: Seeing Beauty in the Dark The Body Deva: Working with the Spiritual Consciousness of the Body Working with Kundalini: An Experiential Guide to the Process of Awakening The Shamanic Workbook series, and The Complete Cord Course: Working with Cords through Energy Work and Shamanic Healing She combines her extensive education with her personal meditative practices and direct revelation of the spirit world. She has been serving her community as a spiritual healer and teacher since 2004. Website: maryshutan.com Discussion of this interview in the BatGap Community Facebook Group Interview recorded April 5, 2025
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727. Diane Hennacy Powell
Diane Hennacy Powell, M.D. is the chief scientist involved in The Telepathy Tapes, a podcast about non-speaking autistic children who are extraordinarily telepathic. "In a world that often dismisses the extraordinary as mere fantasy, The Telepathy Tapes dares to explore the profound abilities of non-speakers with autism—individuals who have long been misunderstood and underestimated. These silent communicators possess gifts that defy conventional understanding, from telepathy to otherworldly perceptions, challenging the limits of what we believe to be real. For years, their parents and teachers have quietly witnessed these remarkable abilities, knowing that the time to share their truth would eventually come. But now, as the evidence mounts, the time has come to reveal what has been hidden in plain sight. This groundbreaking series challenges everything we think we know about communication and the human mind, inviting viewers to step into a reality where the impossible is not only possible but happening every day. Through emotional stories and undeniable evidence, The Telepathy Tapes offers a fresh perspective on the profound connections that exist beyond words. Traveling with neuroscientist Dr. Diane Hennacy Powell, witnessing mind-boggling telepathy tests and forging deeply intimate relationships with families around the globe, host Ky Dickens invites you to contemplate the world through the eyes of those who speak without words. Prepare to be captivated, challenged, and ultimately transformed as the series shines a light on the untold capabilities of those who have been underestimated for far too long." Dr. Powell is a Johns Hopkins-trained psychiatrist, therapist, neuroscientist, and public speaker. She develops multidisciplinary theories towards understanding psychological anomalies, such as savant skills and verified accounts of spacetime navigation. Her current research focuses on controlled testing of autistic savants and children reported to be telepathic and/or precognitive by their caregivers. Dr. Powell has been on the faculty at Harvard Medical School, a member of a think tank on human consciousness at the Salk Institute in La Jolla, California, and Director of Research for the John E. Mack Institute. Her investigation into the neurocorrelates of ESP is discussed in her 2008 book The ESP Enigma: The Scientific Case for Psychic Phenomena, and in Seriously Strange: Thinking Anew about Psychical Experiences. Dr. Powell is also an expert on PTSD and created the psychiatry program for Survivors of Torture, International in San Diego, California. She was the principal author of IONS The 2007 Shift Report: Evidence of a World Transforming and a contributing author to Beyond Forgiveness: Reflections on Atonement, the 2014 Campus Book of the Year at Indiana University. She is also a participant in the #NeverAlone movement for suicide prevention launched by Deepak Chopra. Website: drdianehennacy.com Discussion of this interview in the BatGap Community Facebook Group. First BatGap interview with Dr. Powell Summary and transcript of this interview Interview recorded March 23, 2025 YouTube Video Chapters: 00:00:00 Fascinating Anecdote of Precognition  00:03:15 The Rise of the Telepathy Tapes Podcast  00:05:48 Impact of Telepathy Tapes on Community  00:08:39 Telepathy and Consciousness in Pre-Verbal Babies  00:12:29 Psychic Communication in Babies and Autistic Children  00:16:12 Non-Verbal Communication in Animals  00:19:28 Unique Traffic Culture in Iran  00:22:49 Exploring Telepathy among Children  00:25:35 The Phenomenon of Psychic Fields in Lucid Dreaming  00:28:15 Elon Musk's Patent on Telepathy and Its Implications  00:31:36 Paradigm Shifts and Materialism  00:35:31 The Role of Consciousness in Physics and Reality Co-Creation  00:38:40 Remote Viewing and Military Research  00:42:25 Social Benefits of the Hill
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726. Dr. Neil Schuitevoerder
Dr. Neil Schuitevoerder, a clinical and organizational psychologist, has been doing spiritual practices for 50 years. He's no longer interested in his ego's story, so here's the story of his soul's evolution: He had early instruction in how to use a pendulum, which led to the opening of his intuitive knowing, which has continued to expand into higher stages. His intense meditation practices in his 20s led to illness, and he was guided to return to a householder life as husband and father. He continued practices in mystical Judaism, then turned to Vedanta, kundalini, and other Hindu practices. With a kundalini master, and with the Diamond Approach technique of Inquiry, he opened the higher chakras and began to experience states of unity and nonduality, first with a near object, such as a tree, then with a far object, such as the galaxy. Slowly, the dualities of self/other, near/far, past/future, dissolved, and his knowing expanded to include the distant past, his past lives, his rebirth in this lifetime, and his ability to travel in subtle bodies to the subtle planes, including conversing with the deceased. His mind emptied out, then his body became empty, containing the whole galaxy, a nondual body. Then his astral body emptied out, and he no longer "traveled" but was united with the subtle mental and causal planes, all within him. The state of bliss is always accessible. The local identity of Neil remains when he functions in the world, as he lives in dual and nondual levels of awareness simultaneously. Neil's has a podcast with his wife, Connie Zweig, about his ongoing awakening and what it's like to live in the world in advanced levels of consciousness -- Dr. Neil's Spiritual Awakening to Nonduality. It posts on Apple, Spotify, and all platforms. Discussion of this interview in the BatGap Community Facebook Group. Summary and transcript of this interview Interview recorded March 15, 2025 YouTube Video Chapters: 00:00:00 Different Levels of Perception  00:02:35 Soul's Evolution and Spiritual Practices  00:06:23 Journey of Consciousness and Skepticism  00:10:27 Near-Death and Out-of-Body Experiences  00:13:59 Exploring Consciousness and Cosmic Manifestation  00:17:19 Extraordinary Abilities in Blind Individuals  00:21:08 Understanding Freedom and Non-Attachment  00:25:32 The Importance of Moral Development in Spiritual Growth  00:30:46 Exploring Multidimensional Consciousness  00:34:03 Exploring the Buddhic Plane and Astral Projection  00:38:55 Understanding Subtle Body Layers and Incarnation Process  00:42:07 Exploring Reincarnation and Astral Realms  00:46:36 Exploring the Universe and Spiritual Liberation  00:51:36 The Nature of True Governance according to Lao Tzu  00:54:01 The Role of Ego in Daily Life  00:57:52 Understanding the Reduction of Thoughts and Ego  01:02:11 Understanding A.H. Almas's Protocol  01:06:05 Telepathic Abilities and Humanity's Shift  01:11:09 The Coexistence of Creation and Destruction Forces  01:15:21 The Cosmic Perspective: Our Place in the Universe  01:19:38 Energy Healing and Silent Therapy  01:23:35 Do Microbes Have Souls and Their Evolutionary Journey  01:27:50 Chakras and the Evolution of Consciousness  01:31:00 Understanding Chakras and Energy Centers  01:34:55 Exploring Spiritual Evolution and Incarnation  01:38:52 Understanding Shadow Material and Spiritual Bypassing  01:43:09 The Importance of Spiritual Community and Marriage  01:47:18 Embracing Pain Through Meditation  01:51:31 Exploring the Connection Between Consciousness and the Body-Heart  01:55:45 Exploring the Concept of the Vajra Body  01:58:30 Upcoming Interview with Diane Hennessey Powell on Telepathy Tapes
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725. Jim Grove
Jim Grove is a lifelong practitioner of yogic meditation who grew up in a small logging town on the West Coast of Canada. At age thirteen, he was introduced to a teacher who was one of the few ministers directly ordained by Paramahansa Yogananda during his lifetime, Mother Yogacharya M. Hamilton of Seattle. A series of early transcendental experiences convinced him to commit himself to continued yogic practice under her tutelage. His recent memoir, A Curious Spiritual Journey, recounts some of the prominent experiences that have arisen from his practice over four decades, starting from early adolescence, in the interests of providing some insight into the often unpredictable process of spiritual unfoldment. He likes to speak plainly about spiritual experience and practice, avoiding the vague, abstract, and sometimes inflated language used in much spiritual and new age writing. He lives in Victoria, British Columbia, Canada. Website: jimgrove.ca Discussion of this interview in the BatGap Community Facebook Group. Summary and transcript of this interview Interview recorded February 15, 2025 YouTube Video Chapters: 00:00:00 Jim Grove's Journey in Yogic Meditation  00:03:42 Editing a Manuscript: From 80,000 to 55,000 Words  00:07:23 Discovering a Life-Changing Teacher  00:11:24 A Humorous Encounter at Denny's  00:16:23 Spiritual Awakening and Motivation Changes  00:21:30 The Ripple Effect of Everyday Actions  00:25:47 Mariana Kaplan's Global Soccer Mission  00:30:15 The Importance of Spiritual Integrity and Ethical Conduct  00:34:29 The Importance of Integrity in Organizations and Community  00:38:25 Cultural Ethics vs. Universal Values  00:42:13 The Importance of Humility and Kindness in Life  00:47:09 Leadership Dynamics and Corporate Culture  00:51:16 The Purpose of Suffering and Spiritual Growth  00:55:51 Embracing Mortality in Tibetan Buddhism  00:59:10 Exploring Shamanic Practices and Cross-Cultural Spirituality  01:03:24 Exploring the Life and Teachings of Joel Goldsmith  01:06:55 Joel Goldsmith and Spiritual Anecdotes  01:10:33 Exploring Multiverse and Other Dimensions  01:14:40 The Role of Specialists in Reincarnation Research  01:18:30 Exploring Past Life Regressions and Reincarnation  01:23:25 Vision of Furry Boots with Curly Toes  01:27:52 Healing Through Past Life Regression  01:31:46 Balancing Depth and Breadth in Personal Growth  01:36:04 Exploring Kundalini Activation and Spiritual Growth  01:40:49 The Metaphor of the Ring: Ego and Humility Lessons from Tolkien  01:45:52 The Concept of Humility in Spiritual Teachings  01:49:50 The Spiritual Lessons of the Prodigal Son and Christ's Doubt  01:54:11 Career Shift: From Private Sector to Provincial Government  01:59:06 Embracing Change and Trusting the Universe  02:03:47 Instilling Inner Guidance in Children  02:07:44 Future of Humanity: Transitions and Endgames
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724. Lisa Carrillo
Although Lisa worked as a chemical engineer, spirituality always was the priority in her life. In 2009, at a silent retreat, her thought-based identity dropped away, and she saw only the single flow of benevolence in all that is. When some of those thoughts returned a few weeks later (less convincing than before), there also came a deep curiosity to inquire into those thoughts. She developed many tools to return to a lived experience of the deeper knowing. Both of her books share these tools. All that is is a vibrant expression erupting from a single full emptiness. Website: experiencingthetrueself.com Books: An Unprincipled Life: Living from the Unknown Living Awake: 20 Techniques to End "I Got It; I Lost It" Discussion of this interview in the BatGap Community Facebook Group. Summary and transcript of this interview Interview recorded January 26, 2025 YouTube Video Chapters: 00:00:00 Introduction to Buddha at the Gas Pump Series  00:04:27 Early Childhood Spiritual Insights  00:08:09 Exploring the Astral Body and Embodiment  00:11:15 Understanding the Koshas: Layers of Existence  00:15:16 Discovering Inner Strength Through Adversity  00:19:44 The Journey of Pure Intelligence and Self-Rediscovery  00:23:47 Understanding the Mind: A Sense Organ analogy  00:27:56 Discovering the Root of Aliveness in Spiritual Practice  00:31:05 Embracing Life's Uncertainties and Letting Go of Control  00:34:18 Understanding Impermanence in Awakening  00:38:12 Embracing Flexibility in Life's Demands  00:42:34 Understanding Life's Impetus  00:47:11 Parenting Lessons from Calvin and Hobbes  00:51:44 Spiritual Principles in Dire Situations  00:55:33 The Power of Positivity and Human Kindness  00:58:56 Choosing Challenging Lifetimes for Wisdom  01:02:29 Exploring Past Life Memories  01:06:48 Concept of Past Lives and Dimensions  01:11:42 Finding Positivity in Adversity: Lessons from Prisoners  01:17:00 The Illusion of Shoulds and Self-Realization  01:20:57 The Balance of Opposing Forces and Human Nature  01:25:15 Experiencing Wisdom in a Different Realm  01:29:49 Understanding Malignant Narcissism in Leadership  01:33:25 Embracing Life's Harmony and Challenges  01:36:44 The Role of Creativity and Connection in Environmental Action  01:40:16 Climate Change and Thwaites Glacier Threat  01:42:32 Embracing Inner Wisdom vs. Scientific Method  01:46:06 Integrating Science with Inner Wisdom  01:50:29 Embracing Personal Growth and Self-Reflection  01:55:24 Political Perspectives and Third Party Hopes  01:59:09 Embracing Open Dialogue and Challenging Ideas
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