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Founders in Arms

Immad Akhund and Rajat Suri
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  • Founders in Arms

    Building Brokerage 2.0: Direct Indexing and Tax Alpha with Mo Al Adham

    14/08/2026 | 55 mins.
    Mo Al Adham is the founder and CEO of Frec, a brokerage platform he describes as "brokerage 2.0" — building on core trading primitives to offer more sophisticated strategies like direct indexing, long-short direct indexing, and options overlays. Before Frec, Mo co-founded Twitvid, an early video-for-Twitter startup, and later spent five years at Twitter. He founded Frec in 2021 and launched the product in October 2023.
    What you'll learn:
    Why the $1-30M wealth segment — about 10 million US households — controls 40% of all investable wealth in the country, and why it's the fastest-growing segment
    How direct indexing creates "tax alpha" by harvesting capital losses, and why that's a deferral of taxes rather than an elimination of them
    How a step-up in cost basis at death effectively forgives the deferred tax bill
    The concrete numbers: how much a $100k investment can harvest in losses via a classic direct index versus a long-short direct index
    Why long-term, sophisticated investors have proven far less fee-sensitive than the market assumes
    Mo's path from Twitvid — an early video app built on top of Twitter — to five years working inside Twitter itself
    How a frustrating experience with a wealth manager who charged 1% fees for little added value planted the idea for Frec
    Why Mo's six months of "top-down" market research largely failed, and why a "bottoms-up" approach — starting from what he actually cared about — led him to Frec
    Why Frec had to resequence its roadmap when rising interest rates undercut its original plan to lead with a cheap line-of-credit product
    Immad's framework for company OKRs (which he calls "COR") and why he insists on including non-measurable results
    Why Frec has deliberately stayed out of banking, unlike some robo-advisor competitors
    Mo and Immad's picks for financial products that should already be obsolete

    Chapters:
    (00:00) The $1-30M wealth segment and why it holds 40% of US investable wealth
    (01:03) Introducing Mo Al Adham and Frec, "brokerage 2.0"
    (02:07) Targeting sophisticated investors vs. democratizing access
    (03:12) Why long-term investors are stickier and less fee-sensitive than assumed
    (07:08) Tax alpha explained: deferral vs. elimination
    (09:20) How direct indexing lowers cost basis through loss harvesting
    (12:45) Long-short direct index and portfolio tilts
    (14:16) Mo's first startup, Twitvid, and getting outpaced by Twitter
    (16:29) The wealth manager experience that inspired Frec
    (19:49) Vetting the idea: six months of top-down research that failed
    (22:18) Switching to a bottoms-up approach and finding conviction
    (30:39) Immad's approach to OKRs, called "COR"
    (36:24) Frec's pivot from lending to investing as rates rose
    (52:16) Rapid fire: AI in fintech, obsolete products, and more
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    Ethics, Pivots, and the Future of Work: A Live Q&A with Vercel's Guillermo Rauch

    10/07/2026 | 28 mins.
    Guillermo Rauch is the co-founder and CEO of Vercel, the company behind Next.js, and previously created the widely-used Socket.io library. In this special episode, recorded live in front of an audience, Guillermo joins Immad Akhund and Raj Suri for an open Q&A covering pivots, ethics, investors, and the future of work in the age of AI.
    What you'll learn:
    The difference between a "lowercase p" pivot (refining focus) and an "uppercase P" pivot (starting over) — and how to know which one you need
    How to build an ethical framework for operating in an industry full of shortcuts and noise
    How to extract real signal from investors without letting them drive your roadmap
    Real pivot stories from Presto (restaurant tablets to voice AI), Lyft (carpooling to peer-to-peer ride-hailing), and Mercury's early product-market-fit signal
    Why blaming distribution is often easier than blaming the product — and why that's a trap
    How founders can get their teams to think about prioritization the way they do
    How Mercury created early demand by deliberately recruiting a broad, vocal set of seed investors
    What "the future of work" looks like when your team's job shifts from producing outcomes directly to building the systems that produce them
    How growing up outside Silicon Valley shaped each panelist's belief that they could build something from scratch

    Chapters:
    (0:00) Lowercase p vs. uppercase P pivots
    (1:05) Q&A begins
    (1:23) Building an ethical framework in Silicon Valley
    (4:38) Balancing customer signal vs. investor advice
    (9:53) Pivot stories: Presto, Lyft, and Mercury's obvious PMF moment
    (15:34) Why founders blame distribution instead of the product
    (16:08) Getting your team to think about prioritization like you do
    (18:21) How Mercury created early demand with 60 seed investors
    (19:48) The future of work: agents, harnesses, and factories of output
    (24:25) Growing up outside the Valley: mentors and self-belief
    (28:04) Closing
  • Founders in Arms

    The New Rules of Startup Scale: Survival, TAM Illusions, and Opting into Excellence With Dan Teran

    26/06/2026 | 49 mins.
    Dan Teran is the co-founder and managing partner of Gutter Capital, an early-stage venture firm investing in vertical AI and marketplace businesses. He previously founded Managed by Q — an operating system for commercial spaces that grew to employ nearly 1,000 people, expanded nationally, and was acquired by WeWork in 2019. Dan joined WeWork as head of corporate development before leaving after a turbulent six months. He now runs Gutter Capital's third fund ($75M) and the Elbow Grease accelerator, sponsored by Mercury, which invests in early-stage founders in New York City.
    What you'll learn:
    How Managed by Q found extreme product-market fit in lower Manhattan — and why that made expansion harder, not easier
    Why winning a market can be a trap when the TAM is smaller than you thought
    The real story behind the WeWork acquisition: a three-year relationship, a theatric walkout, and why great exits are always principal-to-principal
    Why over-capitalization was more ruinous to Managed by Q than any external factor
    How to think about Series A benchmarks for non-AI companies today (2–3M ARR, renewals, one productive AE, 3x growth)
    Why AI-enabled services businesses can be great companies even if they're not venture-scale outcomes
    The mismatch between what early-stage founders need to raise and what top VC funds are mandated to deploy
    Why founders should play the hype game — but stay ruthlessly honest with themselves about what game they're playing
    Dan's take on Adam Neumann: what made him exceptional, where he fell short, and why Dan wouldn't bet against him
    The "leaders eat last" philosophy — and why holding people to high standards and having their backs aren't in conflict

    Chapters:
    [00:00] The hype trap founders fall into
    [01:31] Managed by Q: founding story and early growth
    [02:39] Scaling nationally and selling to WeWork
    [04:17] The state of co-working and commercial real estate post-WeWork
    [07:18] In-person vs. remote — what actually matters pre-PMF
    [11:16] How the WeWork acquisition really happened
    [15:06] Realizing the TAM was smaller than expected
    [17:09] Raj's parallel experience at Presto
    [20:04] FOMO-driven investing and the AI diligence problem
    [22:04] Series A benchmarks for applied AI companies today
    [25:27] Why founders should aim for break-even before raising
    [28:56] The mismatch between venture fund mandates and founder needs
    [34:32] What Dan learned about fundraising after becoming an investor
    [37:30] Adam Neumann, WeWork, and Flow
    [39:30] Leadership, high standards, and the "leaders eat last" philosophy
    [42:12] Why founders learn the wrong lessons from Steve Jobs
    [47:31] FarmEvo: the drone ag company Dan flew to Karachi to diligence
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    Before Robots Were Cool: The 33-Year Journey of iRobot's Founder, Colin Angle

    05/06/2026 | 52 mins.
    Colin Angle spent 33 years building iRobot — bootstrapping for eight years without venture capital, surviving 15 failed business models, and ultimately launching Roomba in year 12. What followed was a decade of overcoming consumer skepticism, 70%+ global market share, a public offering on Nasdaq, and eventually a blocked acquisition by Amazon. Now he's back with a new company, Familiar Machines and Magic, building robots designed for human connection — priced to compete with the cost of owning a pet.
    What you'll learn:
    Why Colin believes iRobot would have failed with early VC access
    How iRobot funded itself for eight years through customer contracts instead of investors
    The sales tactic Colin used to get Fortune 500 CTOs to fund iRobot's R&D
    How DoD mine-hunting algorithms and a Hasbro partnership became the technology inside Roomba
    The wallet share framework for evaluating whether a consumer robot idea can actually work
    Why adding features to a consumer robot often reduces perceived value
    How iRobot priced Roomba at $199 with a $42 BOM — and what that discipline required
    What it felt like to go public, and how everything changes when what you say can be monetized
    The full story behind the Amazon acquisition attempt and why the EU and FTC blocked it
    What Familiar Machines and Magic is building and why the pet economy is the target comp

    Chapters:
    00:00 – Regulators celebrate blocked deals — what Colin saw on FTC examiners' doors
    00:53 – Introducing Colin Angle, co-founder of iRobot and Familiar Machines and Magic
    02:00 – The "if not us, who?" moment that started iRobot
    03:54 – First business model: privately fund a moon mission, sell the movie rights
    07:03 – Eight years without VC: "completely unfundable"
    08:09 – The CTO sales tactic: present a problem half a step from their real one
    09:00 – "Work for no profit, cancel anytime" — the deal structure they used five times
    12:05 – Built for 10,000 units, sold 70,000 Roombas in three months
    15:03 – "If I had VC early, iRobot would have failed"
    18:40 – $199 retail, $42 BOM — the Roomba economics
    20:31 – The wallet share framework: which consumer spend are you actually replacing?
    32:39 – First interview as a public CEO: "My wife says Roomba doesn't work"
    34:42 – The Amazon acquisition gets blocked — 15% market share and falling
    42:09 – Familiar Machines and Magic: the new company and the original vision
    46:12 – Building robots for human connection, not task automation
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    Guillermo Rauch at Founders in Arms Live: Simplicity, Focus, and the Bet That Built Vercel

    29/05/2026 | 51 mins.
    Guillermo Rauch, CEO of Vercel, joins Immad Akhund and Raj Suri at a live Founders in Arms event to break down the full arc of building one of the most widely used developer platforms in the world—from a contrarian bet that VCs said was already solved, to a multi-product company powering the future of the web.
    Guillermo walks through the three chapters of Vercel's growth: finding focus (trimming a portfolio of open source projects down to the one that had undeniable traction), building repeatability (anchoring go-to-market around customer-led ROI stories), and scaling the company itself as the product. Along the way, he shares how he thinks about feedback, why consensus is a red flag for startup ideas, how customer-led innovation beats internal roadmaps, and what "brand permission" has to do with why Google keeps failing at social.
    The conversation also gets into the current moment in SF—the AI supercycle, the anxiety around who gets left behind, and why Guillermo's answer to all of it is the same: product market fit solves most problems. Just stay focused on building.
    What you'll learn:
    Why Guillermo treats everything—including silence—as feedback
    The "pain discovery" method he uses to extract what's actually broken
    How Next.js started as a personal solution and became a wedge into the entire cloud
    Why he deliberately ignores competitors when building
    The three chapters of Vercel's growth and what drove each inflection point
    How customer-led innovation produced some of Vercel's biggest revenue lines
    Why your second product has a higher bar than your first
    The iPhone and AirPods framework for thinking about adjacencies
    What "brand permission" means and why it explains Google's failures
    Why consensus around an idea is a signal to walk away

    Chapters:
    00:00 – Managing your own psychology as a founder
    00:51 – Welcome + live event intro
    02:55 – Vercel's web stack vs. agent stack
    04:04 – Guillermo's background and first exit to WordPress
    05:15 – Spotting the waves: cloud and front end in 2013
    08:49 – Everything is feedback; the pain discovery method
    10:40 – Short-term pessimism, long-term optimism
    13:14 – Opinions vs. ideas: the Jony Ive mental model
    16:40 – Chapter 1: Finding focus — how Next.js became the wedge
    21:03 – Why consensus is a red flag for startup ideas
    21:40 – The MacBook moment: simplicity wins
    25:37 – Chapter 2: Repeatability — e-commerce as the GTM unlock
    29:30 – Chapter 3: Scaling the company as the product
    34:41 – iPhone and AirPods: smart adjacencies to a strong core
    38:41 – Brand permission: why Google keeps failing at social
    40:18 – The SF culture divide: AI optimists vs. AI anxious
    43:09 – The AI gentrification of San Francisco
    49:05 – Being your own coach; founder loneliness and burnout
    50:46 – What fundraising actually feels like
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About Founders in Arms
In this weekly series, fellow startup founders Immad Akhund (Mercury) and Rajat Suri (Presto, Lima, and Lyft) explore current events in the world of tech, startup, and policy, offering insights from their distinguished careers and an array of expert guests. YouTube: youtube.com/@FoundersInArms Substack: foundersinarms.substack.com Instagram: instagram.com/foundersinarms TikTok: tiktok.com/@foundersinarms_
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