GOTO - The Brightest Minds in Tech

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William Rizzo - Global Field CTO at Mirantis & CNCF Ambassador
Colin Griffin - CEO at Krumware & Co-Chair of CNCF Platform Engineering Working Group

RESOURCES
William
https://bsky.app/profile/williamrizzo.bsky.social
https://www.linkedin.com/in/william-rizzo
https://github.com/wrkode

Colin
https://bsky.app/profile/devnetes.bsky.social
https://github.com/krumware
https://www.linkedin.com/in/colin-e-griffin

Links
https://www.cncf.io/reports/cloud-native-artificial-intelligence-whitepaper
https://cloudnativeplatforms.com/whitepapers/platform-eng-maturity-model

DESCRIPTION
Colin Griffin and William Rizzo explore the evolving state of platform engineering in 2026. They discuss how the discipline plays out very differently across verticals such as fintech, telco, and automotive, and why generic frameworks must be tailored to the unique regulatory, cultural, and technical realities of each industry.

The conversation moves through the growing pressure to align platform investments with measurable business outcomes, the distinct compliance challenges facing European organizations under tightening AI regulation, and the infrastructure reckoning triggered by large-scale GPU investment. Both speakers converge on a shared wish: that the CNCF Platform Engineering White Paper and Maturity Model be updated to reflect vertical-specific guidance, informed directly by end-user organizations.

RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Gregor Hohpe • Platform Strategy • https://amzn.to/4cxfYdb
Gregor Hohpe • Cloud Strategy • https://amzn.to/3TOS3Nv
Zhamak Dehghani • Data Mesh • https://amzn.to/3tTCwAC
Sandeep Uttamchandani • The Self-Service Data Roadmap • https://amzn.to/3wAw5W2
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This conversation was recorded at GOTO Copenhagen 2025.
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Marko Klemetti - CTO of Eficode
Kris Jenkins - Lifelong Computer Geek and Podcast Host

ORIGINAL TALK TITLE
Rewriting the SDLC Playbook with GenAI: How To Build a GenAI-Augmented Software Organization?

RESOURCES
Marko
https://bsky.app/profile/mrako.com
https://twitter.com/mrako
https://github.com/mrako
https://www.linkedin.com/in/mrako
https://mrako.com

Kris
https://bsky.app/profile/krisajenkins.bsky.social
https://twitter.com/krisajenkins
https://www.linkedin.com/in/krisjenkins
https://github.com/krisajenkins
http://blog.jenkster.com

ABSTRACT
Speakers interview each other on topics that matter to them.
Expect the unexpected. [...]

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RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Matthew Skelton & Manuel Pais • Team Topologies • http://amzn.to/3sVLyLQ
Forsgren, Humble & Kim • Accelerate: The Science of Lean Software and DevOps • https://amzn.to/3tCz1xO
John Arundel & Justin Domingus • Cloud Native DevOps with Kubernetes • https://amzn.to/3hKZvI5
Wynne, Hellesoy & Tooke • The Cucumber Book • https://amzn.to/3tEUINJ
Sol Rashidi • Your AI Survival Guide • https://amzn.to/3UFYnKC
David Foster • Generative Deep Learning • https://amzn.to/48ZgP4x
Phil Winder • Reinforcement Learning • https://amzn.to/3t1S1VZ
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Ajay Chankramath - Founder & CEO at Platformetrics & Co-Author of "Effective Platform Engineering"
Nic Cheneweth - Principal Consultant at Thoughtworks & Co-Author of "Effective Platform Engineering"

RESOURCES
Ajay
https://www.linkedin.com/in/chankramath
https://github.com/achankra
https://x.com/ajchantw
https://chankramath.com
https://platformetrics.com

Nic
https://www.linkedin.com/in/niccheneweth
https://github.com/ncheneweth
https://x.com/NicCheneweth
https://ncheneweth.com

Links
https://effectiveplatformengineering.com
https://epetech.io
https://dora.dev
https://dora.dev/research/2025/dora-report

DESCRIPTION
Ajay Chankramath (founder and CEO of Platformetrics) and Nic Cheneweth  Cheneweth (Principal Technologist at ThoughtWorks) explore the evolving world of platform engineering. They discuss why a product mindset is critical for internal platforms, how control planes and API-first design create scalable foundations, the real challenges organizations face when implementing Backstage, and where AI and agents are beginning to change the platform landscape. Throughout, both speakers emphasize that cutting corners on architectural foundations ultimately compounds problems at scale.

RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Chankramath, Cheneweth, Oliver & Alvarez • Effective Platform Engineering • https://amzn.to/3OnxN8i
Gregor Hohpe • Platform Strategy • https://amzn.to/4cxfYdb
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This interview was recorded for GOTO State of the Art in November 2025.
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Adrian Mouat - Developer Relations at Chainguard & Author of 'Using Docker'
Charles Humble - Freelance Techie, Podcaster, Editor, Author & Consultant

RESOURCES
Adrian
https://bsky.app/profile/adrianmouat.com
https://twitter.com/adrianmouat
https://github.com/amouat
https://linkedin.com/in/adrianmouat
http://www.adrianmouat.com

Charles
https://bsky.app/profile/charleshumble.bsky.social
https://linkedin.com/in/charleshumble
https://mastodon.social/@charleshumble
https://conissaunce.com

Links
https://images.chainguard.dev
https://www.cisa.gov/sbom
https://www.chainguard.dev/supply-chain-security-101/the-npm-registry-cant-protect-you-the-new-javascript-supply-chain-attacks
https://oxide-and-friends.transistor.fm/episodes/discovering-the-xz-backdoor-with-andres-freund
https://edu.chainguard.dev

DESCRIPTION
In this State of the Art episode, Charles Humble speaks with Adrian Mouat, Developer Relations at Chainguard and author of "Using Docker", about the evolution of container security and the persistent challenge of outdated packages.

Adrian explains how traditional Linux distributions weren't designed for the immutable, frequently-replaced nature of containers, leading to security vulnerabilities that scanners detect but teams struggle to address. He discusses how Chainguard tackles this problem by building everything from source using Wolfi, creating minimal "distroless" images with near-zero CVEs, and how concepts like SBOMs, attestations, and defense in depth are reshaping security practices.

The conversation also covers major security incidents including the XZ Utils backdoor and Shai-hulud attacks, emphasizing the importance of building from source, using short-lived credentials, and replacing rather than updating containers – practices pioneered by companies like Google that are gradually spreading across the industry.

RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Adrian Mouat • Using Docker • https://amzn.to/3PEYIJL
Liz Rice • Container Security • https://amzn.to/3oU4iJe
Liz Rice • Kubernetes Security • https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/kubernetes-security/9781492039075
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Nick Selby - Managing Partner at EPSD
Sarah Wells - Independent Consultant & Author of "Enabling Microservice Success"

RESOURCES
Nick
https://infosec.exchange/@fuzztech
https://bsky.app/profile/nickselby.com
https://github.com/nickselby
https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickselby
https://nickselby.com

Sarah
https://bsky.app/profile/sarahjwells.bsky.social
https://linkedin.com/in/sarahjwells1
https://www.sarahwells.dev

Links
https://ainowinstitute.org/contributor/heidy
https://www.heidyk.com

DESCRIPTION
In this conversation, Sarah Wells and Nick Selby explore why the current rush to adopt AI tools introduces significant business risks. They discuss how AI vendors deliberately blur security terminology to confuse buyers, how AI tools' insatiable appetite for data creates enormous blast radii when breaches occur, and what organizations can do to adopt AI responsibly - from threat modeling and cross-disciplinary governance to minimum-permission principles and incident readiness.

RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Sarah Wells • Enabling Microservice Success • https://amzn.to/4aa8xrv
Katharine Jarmul • Practical Data Privacy • https://amzn.to/3OafC3m
Katharine Jarmul & Jacqueline Kazil • Data Wrangling with Python • https://amzn.to/3Ue5BV5
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