Holy/Hurt Podcast

Often without knowing it, the contexts we come from shape our definitions of healing, sometimes leaving us crafting a definition of trauma recovery informed by the black and white thinking, rigidity, or individualism we are trying to heal from. This episode is all about healing. Instead of proposing a singular path for healing, or a specific narrow definition, options and possibilities for healing are offered at an individual and community level. During this episode you’ll also hear from William Matthews III, Dr. Roberto Che Espinoza, and K.J. Ramsey. Content note: this episode references eating disorders. Credits Written and recorded by: Hillary McBride Guests: William Matthews III, Dr. Roberto Che Espinoza, and K.J. Ramsey Executive producer: Leslie Roberts Sound editing: Bradley Danyluk and Micaela Peragallo Music and scoring: Jon Guerra, adapted from the album Ordinary Ways, strings performed by Valerie Guerra Logo and art: Courtney Searcy

This week, we’re sharing a meditation from Dr. Hillary McBride that helps us to connect with our core state. You can also check out the recorded Instagram Live conversation between @hillaryliannamcbride and @sanctuarymentalhealth which is now posted on our Instagram feed. We return to episode seven next week. Credits Written and recorded by: Hillary McBride Executive producer: Leslie Roberts Sound editing: Bradley Danyluk and Micaela Peragallo Music and scoring: Jon Guerra, adapted from the album Ordinary Ways, strings performed by Valerie Guerra Logo and art: Courtney Searcy

When a function of spiritually traumatic environments is to tell us that we are broken and in need of healing, and healing we are told looks one specific way, beginning to piece together a future on the other side of that can feel confusing. What is healing, and what is just a recreation of the stories that hurt us in the first place? In this episode, we discuss healing from complex trauma and what it means to begin to witness ourselves, turning towards the places inside of us that carry wounds. We discuss parts work, Judith Herman’s model of recovery, and hear from Dr. Alison Cook and J.S. Park. For transcript and show notes, visit holyhurtpodcast.com Credits Written and recorded by: Hillary McBride Guests: Dr. Alison Cook, J.S. Park Executive producer: Leslie Roberts Sound editing: Bradley Danyluk and Micaela Peragallo Music and scoring: Jon Guerra, adapted from the album Ordinary Ways, strings performed by Valerie Guerra Logo and art: Courtney Searcy

Although for many people it was the ideal, there is an individual and systemic cost to feeling the responsibility to save the world. Although it helps for a time, and may even be praised for being spiritually mature, being disconnected from normal human emotions has an impact on an individual. In this episode, we look at spiritual trauma through the lens of systems: both inside of us, and around us. This will help us begin to understand how the roles we played, and the defenses we used, disconnected us from the full experience of being human, and help us imagine another way forward where we can step more fully into who we were before who we were ever told we had to be. This episode features interviews with Mihee Kim Kort and Dr. Laura Anderson. Content Note: this episode contains reference to sexual abuse. For transcript and show notes, visit holyhurtpodcast.com Credits Written and recorded by: Hillary McBride Guest: Mihee Kim Kort, Dr. Laura Anderson Executive producer: Leslie Roberts Sound editing: Bradley Danyluk and Micaela Peragallo Music and scoring: Jon Guerra, adapted from the album Ordinary Ways, strings performed by Valerie Guerra Logo and art: Courtney Searcy