Markets Outlook

Moving Wall Street on-chain with Ondo Finance President Ian De Bode.

Ondo Finance President Ian De Bode joins Jennifer Sanasie and Andy Baehr on CoinDesk Live at the Ondo Summit to discuss the firm's ascent to more than $2 billion in TVL and its roadmap for 2026.

De Bode explains how Ondo is moving beyond simple asset issuance to build a comprehensive on-chain prime brokerage. A key pillar of this strategy is the launch of Ondo Perps, a platform that allows users to trade perpetual futures on equities and commodities using their tokenized spot assets as collateral.

By bridging the gap between TradFi and DeFi, Ondo is turning crypto wallets into a place where global investors can access, hedge, and leverage 200+ tokenized stocks and ETFs 24/7.

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Timecodes:

01:07 - Ondo Finance 2025 Milestones and Looking Ahead02:28 - The "Land Grab" in Tokenization04:10 - Solving the Retail Demand for 24/7 Stocks06:15 - Why Ondo Perps Is the Big Play for 202607:58 - Will Investors Still Use Centralized Exchanges and Perps?

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This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie and Andy Baehr.

Unpacking ETF investor reaction in the market downturn with Bloomberg Intelligence's Eric Balchunas.

Bloomberg Intelligence Senior ETF Analyst, Eric Balchunas joins CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie to discuss why ETF investors are staying remarkable steady while the rest of the market panics. He breaks down the "irony" of ETF boomers showing stronger diamond hands than crypto natives by treating bitcoin as a "hot sauce" allocation within diversified portfolios. Watch to learn how bitcoin’s volatility compares to the 22-year history of Gold ETFs and why this drawdown might just be another cycle for the asset class.

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Timecodes:

00:56 - The Volatility Cost of "Holy Grail" Returns02:33 - The Resilience of "ETF Boomers"04:09 - What's the Future Hold for ETF Holders?06:22 - Bitcoin = "Teenager Gold"09:06 - The "Hot Sauce" Portfolio Allocation13:00 - Performance of Altcoin ETFs (XRP & SOL)14:59 - The Future of Ethereum & Layer 2s

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This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.

Live from the Ondo Summit in NYC, Pantera Capital Founder, Dan Morehead joins Jennifer Sanasie and Sam Ewen for a special Markets Outlook to explain why he’s more bullish now than when he launched the first US crypto fund in 2013. Morehead revisits his "freaky" prediction that saw Bitcoin peak on the exact day he forecast years prior and outlines the path to a $750,000 price target. He breaks down the recent IPO wave and why the next 18 months will be defined by a massive consolidation of Digital Asset Treasuries.

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Timecodes:

1:15 - Morehead’s Rule for Holding Through a "Sea of Red"3:36 - What to Do When Your Portfolio is Underwater4:23 - The Path to $750K Bitcoin5:15 - How the Crypto IPO Wave Returns Billions to the Ecosystem6:08 - Pantera’s 86% Success Rate Over 12 Years of Investing7:27 - The Great DAT Consolidation10:01 - Why This Is Just the Beginning for Institutional Adoption

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This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie and Sam Ewen.

Live from the Ondo Summit in NYC, Stocktwits CEO Howard Lindzon joins Jennifer Sanasie for a special Markets Outlook to break down the rise of the Degenerate Economy, where 24/7 speculation has replaced traditional entertainment. As AI and LLMs commoditize Wall Street research, Lindzon highlights how social sentiment has become the last remaining edge for the modern trader. This shift is central to his Social Relative Strength framework for spotting overlooked assets, a strategy he uses to explain why the retail crowd is currently front-running a debasement trade in gold and silver, even ahead of bitcoin.

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Timecodes:

0:54 - Defining the Degenerate Economy in 2026

2:45 - The Evolution of StockTwits and Social Trading

3:30 - The Impact of AI on Research and Trading

6:38 - The shift from Globalization to Deglobalization

9:13 - AI Agents and the Future of Retail Trading

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This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie and Andy Baehr.

Bitwise CIO Matt Hougan breaks down the 2025 bear market, central banks’ preference for bitcoin over gold, and Solana’s potential to challenge Ethereum's dominance.

Bitwise Chief Investment Officer, Matt Hougan joins CoinDesk’s Markets Outlook with Jennifer Sanasie and Andy Baehr. He explains why he believes 2025 was a bear market and where he sees markets going from here. Hougan breaks down why central banks are eyeing bitcoin as a superior self-custody tool to gold, Bitwise’s on-chain yield vaults, and why he's betting on Solana as the challenger to Ethereum's dominance. With President Trump tapping Kevin Warsh for Fed Chair, Hougan weighs in on what this means for crypto. Notably, Warsh is listed as an investor and advisor on Bitwise’s website.-

Timecodes:0:53 - Why Are Markets Down Today?3:13 - Precious Metals vs. Bitcoin7:05 - Why the Crypto ETF Genie is Already Out of the Bottle9:15 - Bitwise’s On-Chain Yield and DeFi Vaults13:22 -What Central Banks Are Asking Bitwise About Bitcoin17:44 - How Matt Hougan Thinks BTC Gets to $6.5 Million in 20 Years19:15 - Beyond BTC and ETH: Matt Hougan’s Case for Altcoins21:00 - Solana vs. Ethereum: The Battle for Wall Street24:20 - What Impact Would Trump’s Fed Reserve Chair Nominee, Kevin Warsh, Have on Crypto?

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This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.