The Attention Mechanism with Andrew Mayne

Andrew and Justin reconvene to discuss Anthropic's recent claims that Chinese AI labs are utilizing Claude to improve their own models, before turning their attention to Anthropic's ongoing rocky relationship with the Pentagon. Elsewhere, the two ponder what's happening with local town board meetings grabbing headlines for turning away data centers — and whether a NIMBY response to data centers could cost these towns more than they thing — before Justin shares his experience of building his first iOS app with Codex.

Chapters

00:00 - Intro
01:30 - Anthropic and China
14:11 - Anthropic and the Pentagon
21:05 - Data Centers vs. Town Boards
36:13 - Codex and Utilizing AI Intelligently
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Andrew and Justin discuss the recent acqui-hire Peter Steinberger, the founder behind OpenClaw (né Clawdbot, né Moltbot), with his project remaining open-source. The two also discuss the reaction to the depreciation of GPT-4o, which left plenty of users feeling burned, and the recent high-profile departures of various employees who got their exit letters published in outlets like The New York Times. Is it a sign of the times, or just evidence of culture clash?

Chapters

00:00 - Intro
01:49 - OpenClaw Acqui-hire
14:03 - Death of GPT-4o
28:29 - Departure Letters and AI Work Culture
48:08 - Brief Codex Thoughts
49:19 - Wrap-up
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Andrew and Justin catch up after a Super Bowl that was chock full of various AI ads. The two touch on the ongoing feud between Anthropic and OpenAI over ads, partially fought out, ironically enough, in those very same ad campaigns. After talking through OpenAI's own Codex ad and the launch of its standalone Mac app, the two tackle compute constraints, Elon's pivot to the moon, and more.

Chapters

00:00 - Intro and Super Bowl Ads
10:01 - Codex
19:19 - Compute Constraints and Space
25:50 - Elon Pivots from Mars to the Moon
30:10 - New OpenAI Podcast Episode and Wrap-up
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Andrew and Justin talk through the recent viral success of Clawdbot, an open-source AI personal assistant that's taken the web by storm over the weekend. After Justin debates installing it on a Mac Mini, the two discuss the other Claude — namely, Claude's founder Dario Amodei, who continues to issue "dire warnings" over the rise of AI.

Chapters

00:00 - Intro
00:47 - Clawdbot
09:26 - Dario Amodei's Dire Warnings
37:06 - The near-future of AI-generated art
44:58 - Wrap-up
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Andrew and Justin walk through OpenAI CFO Sarah Frier's latest blog post digging into the company's annual revenue compared to its current demand, alongside some thoughts shared by Sarah with Andrew on the official OpenAI Podcast. The two also dig into OpenAI's announcement of ads in its free tier and what it might for the future of the platform before digging into some of the discovery coming out of the Elon-OpenAI lawsuit.

Chapters

00:00 - Intro
00:44 - Revenue and Demand for ChatGPT
10:29 - OpenAI Ads
22:08 - Elon Musk's Lawsuit (and general Elon thoughts)
34:16 - Wrap-up (and brief thoughts on the Cerebras deal)
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