The Courage to Change: A Recovery Podcast

• 247. The Myth of Rock Bottom: Why “Normal” Drinking Can Be Heavy Enough

  Lesley Jones never had the dramatic “rock bottom” people expect. No arrests, no lost job, no catastrophic implosion. Instead, she lived with the quiet, relentless hum of anxiety and the mental gymnastics of someone who intuitively knew alcohol worked a little too well. As a high-achieving oldest daughter, state-champion athlete, and lifelong perfectionist, she learned early how to drink with precision to silence the internal buzz of fear and pressure. In this conversation, Lesley shares what most people never talk about: the early-stage progression of alcohol use, the mental toll of constantly negotiating with yourself, and the moment she realized she didn’t need to lose everything to decide she was done rolling the dice. She breaks down how she got sober in her late twenties, what actually shifted, how motherhood reshaped her awareness, and the internal “fan noise” that finally pushed her toward change. We also dig into the difference between abstinence and recovery, parenting with a program, why “mommy wine culture” is a trap, the slow creep from control to obsession, and how she built a sober life she’s proud of — including a beautiful company, Traveling Pendants, dedicated to passing on strength through shared stories. This episode is a lifeline for anyone who’s ever quietly wondered, “Is this getting a little too loud?” You do not need a spectacular bottom to choose a better life. What The Listener Will Learn • How early-stage alcohol use disorder shows up long before obvious consequences • Why anxiety, perfectionism, and “oldest daughter energy” often drive early drinking patterns • How mommy-wine culture quietly normalizes dependency • How the mental load of drinking becomes its own problem • The difference between simply not drinking and actually being in recovery • Why intuition is often the first, most accurate warning sign • How to recognize the internal “fan noise” that signals addiction creeping in • What it looks like to get sober without hitting a dramatic bottom • Practical tools for staying sober in social and family environments • How working a recovery program can shift the way you parent • Why community and accountability are critical in early sobriety • How Lesley’s Traveling Pendants project uses shared storytelling to give people strength • High-functioning alcoholism and its invisible progression • Anxiety, control, and self-medication • The myth of the rock bottom • Early intervention and choosing sobriety before major loss • Motherhood, drinking culture, and social normalization • The psychological burden of planning drinking • Why people quit long before the big consequences • Emotional and spiritual transformation through recovery • Community, sponsorship, and accountability • Repair, amends, and healthier family dynamics • Storytelling as connection • Passing strength forward through shared experience

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• 246. Surviving Strokes, Suicide Loss, and Finding Purpose: A Mental Health Conversation with Cory Suggs

  Cory Suggs grew up in a tiny Oklahoma town where life looked perfect—until it wasn’t. After his parents’ divorce at sixteen, he spiraled into a decade of reckless living, validation-seeking, and self-destruction. At twenty-five, multiple unexplained strokes left him unable to walk, battling depression, and convinced his life was over. A year later, Cory went into the woods to end his life. What happened next changed everything. In a single blink, he saw two versions of his future—one dark and empty, one bright and full of life—and chose to live. That moment sparked a lifelong practice of gratitude that became his anchor for healing. In this powerful conversation, Cory shares: The hidden cost of seeking approval through recklessness and addiction What it’s like to lose your body, your identity, and your will to live—and rebuild from zero The vision that stopped his suicide attempt and started his recovery How daily gratitude, faith, and movement transformed his mind and body Losing his mother to suicide and finding peace through forgiveness and purpose The role of personal development, proximity, and mentors like Tony Robbins in reshaping his life What true masculinity and emotional strength look like for men today Cory’s story is raw, redemptive, and deeply human—a reminder that life doesn’t happen to us, it happens for us. If you or someone you love is struggling, this episode is a lifeline of hope and practical wisdom. Connect with Cory: CorySuggs.com Follow Ashley: @ashleyloebblassingame www.couragetochangepodcast.com www.ashleyloebblassingame.com Trigger warning: This episode discusses suicide and depression. If you’re in crisis, call or text 988 in the U.S. for support.

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• 245. From Infertility to Postpartum Depression: Therapist Neha Kumar on Motherhood’s Hardest Moments and Finding Strength

  Therapist Neha Kumar opens up about infertility, IVF, endometriosis, and postpartum depression. We talk about cultural expectations in South Asian families, the reality of new motherhood, what “natural” doesn’t mean, and practical ways to support women through fertility treatment and postpartum mental health. It is honest, grounded, and full of hard-won perspective. This episode is sponsored by Reconstruction Unlimited, a recovery-focused organization that provides coaching, interventions, and holistic support to help people and families thrive in long-term recovery. Guest Neha Kumar, LMFT Private practice therapist focusing on women’s mental health, postpartum, and culturally informed care. Website: https://prosandpsyche.com Growing up as the youngest of three girls in a South Asian immigrant family and the “son preference” context Film school to therapy (why service work in India changed her path) Undiagnosed inattentive ADHD, chronic fatigue, and how symptoms were missed Endometriosis finally diagnosed after years of severe cycles IVF at 28, grief around repeated negatives, cost, and stigma Postpartum depression after baby one, spinal headache after baby two, and what “hopeless” actually feels like Why “it is natural” does not mean “it is easy” for conception, birth, or breastfeeding Practical support for friends in fertility treatment (what helps, what hurts) Advocating for yourself in healthcare and pushing for answers Building resilience, redefining “enough,” and finding a new normal Validation matters. Delayed diagnoses of ADHD and endometriosis can fuel years of self-blame. Support should be operational. Rides to monitoring, meal trains, childcare, and help with logistics beat platitudes every time. Language counts. Avoid “just relax,” “have you tried…,” or fast fixes. Try “I am so sorry. I am here. What do you need today?” Postpartum depression often feels like hopelessness more than sadness. Sleep loss and medical complications can intensify risk. Community reduces harm. Modern parenting often lacks the “village” that many cultures build by design. Resources: Neha’s practice: https://proseandpsyche.com Postpartum Support International (find local help, warmline): https://www.postpartum.net ADHD information and screening overview (inattentive type): https://chadd.org Endometriosis basics and patient guides: https://www.endofound.org If you are in crisis, contact your local emergency number or go to the nearest emergency department. Postpartum Support International helpline (US): 1-800-944-4773 (call or text “HELP”) If this episode helped you, share it with a friend who might need to hear it. Rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts and Spotify to help others find these conversations. For speaking, collaborations, or sponsor inquiries, contact us through the podcast website. #infertility #ivfjourney #ivfsupport #endometriosis #postpartumdepression #postpartumsupport #motherhood #womenshealth #mentalhealth #maternalmentalhealth #southasianwomen #culturalexpectations #newmomlife #postpartumjourney #ivfcommunity #endowarrior #adhdawareness #healingjourney #fertilitysupport #womensupportingwomen #griefandloss #hope #strength #resilience #parentingjourney #mommentalhealth #breakingthestigma #motherhoodunplugged #itsokaynottobeokay #thecouragetochangepodcast

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• 244. Tides of Grief, Waves of Grace: Ashley Jo on Sobriety, Loss, and Building a Life After Trauma

  Welcome to the first episode of Season 7! This episode of The Courage to Change: A Recovery Podcast is brought to you by our sponsor Reconstruction Unlimited. As our sponsor, Reconstruction brings their mission to life by supporting individuals through personalized coaching, case management, and aftercare programs that foster meaningful transformation and sustained well-being. Learn more at www.reconstructionunlimited.com. Tides of Grief, Waves of Grace: Ashley Jo on Sobriety, Loss, and Building a Life After Trauma In this powerful episode of The Courage to Change: A Recovery Podcast, host Ashley Loeb Blassingame welcomes back Ashley Jo — former podcast producer, recovery advocate, and now author of the forthcoming memoir Tides of Grief, Waves of Grace. Ashley Jo shares the unfiltered truth about her journey through addiction recovery, grief, and healing after unimaginable loss. From losing her infant son to a rare genetic disease at just 22, to navigating divorce, adoption, and the challenges of raising five children, Ashley Jo’s life has been anything but ordinary. She opens up about surviving a public paternity scandal, her ex-husband’s struggle with substance use disorder and death from a fentanyl overdose, and how sobriety gave her the tools to lead her family through crisis without turning back to alcohol. In this candid conversation, Ashley and Ashley explore: How sobriety prepared Ashley Jo to face back-to-back tragedies without relapsing Parenting through grief, addiction, and family trauma The roller-coaster pace of life in recovery and learning to accept your unique wiring (hello, ADHD superpowers) How writing her memoir became a therapeutic tool for processing decades of unprocessed grief Why honesty with children about addiction and loss can be a bridge to healing The concept of “two things can be true” — embracing both joy and sorrow Ashley Jo’s story is one of resilience, radical honesty, and finding grace in the middle of chaos. If you’re navigating sobriety, parenting challenges, or life after loss, this episode offers hope, hard-earned wisdom, and a reminder that the waves that threaten to drown us can also be the ones we learn to ride. Order Ashley Jo’s memoir: thisisashleyjo.com Listen now for an inspiring, real-life example of recovery, redemption, and rebuilding after life’s most brutal storms. Topics: sobriety journey, grief recovery, fentanyl overdose, addiction recovery, memoir, parenting through grief, ADHD and recovery, healing after loss, substance use disorder, family therapy, resilience, emotional healing, The Courage to Change Podcast

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• End of Season 6, Amends, and Season 7

  I dropped the ball in Season 6. My guests were great but my cadence was not. Season 7 is coming back stronger than ever — Scott is back, we’ve got a sponsor, and I can’t wait to share what’s next.

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