Christopher Bishop, a self-described "nonlinear multimodal careerist" who's navigated eight careers, joins Paul Estes to discuss his new book Improvising Careers: Succeed in Jobs That Don't Exist Yet (pre-order here). From touring rock musician opening for the Eagles to IBM executive to quantum technology expert, Christopher shares how to thrive in a world where the average person will have 8-10 jobs by age 38.
In this compelling conversation, Christopher reveals his "Future Career Toolkit" featuring practical tools for identifying your strengths and finding opportunities in emerging fields. Paul and Christopher explore how to leverage transferable skills, the importance of embracing technological chaos, and why you should apply for jobs even when you only have 60% of the listed requirements.
You'll Learn:
Why you should "chase the maelstrom" and seek out areas where business models are being transformed by new technologies
How Christopher transitioned from a professional musician to an IBM executive by recognizing transferable skills
The "Future Career Toolkit"
Why you should apply for jobs even if you don't have all the requirements, especially in bleeding-edge tech
How to develop a workplace "persona" that helps you succeed in new environments
Why the upcoming AI agent revolution represents opportunities rather than threats
Practical strategies for connecting with industry leaders to find career opportunities
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AI Literacy Starts with Play, Not Automation with Adam Hofmann
Adam Hofmann, leader of Elixirr's generative AI practice, joins Paul Estes to share insights on moving organizations from AI curiosity to implementation. Drawing from his journey from entrepreneur to AI strategy consultant, Adam reveals how shifting from technical experimentation to cultural engagement is key to successful AI adoption. Paul and Adam discuss the phenomenon of "present bias"—how our experiences with today's AI tools can limit our ability to envision their future potential.
From boardroom directives to CFO-led initiatives, this episode examines who's driving AI adoption and how companies can build momentum through targeted proof-of-concepts. Whether you're struggling with organizational alignment or looking for practical ways to start implementing AI, Adam's focus on playful experimentation offers a refreshing perspective on building AI literacy across your company.
You'll Learn:
How "present bias" limits our ability to see AI's exponential growth potential
Why CFOs and finance leaders are often surprising champions of AI adoption
The importance of identifying high-ROI use cases before diving into implementation
How to avoid the "internal cluster" problem when assigning AI ownership
Why making AI accessible and fun is crucial for organizational adoption
Simple ways to start building AI literacy by replacing everyday tasks
Creative approaches to AI experimentation, including Adam's music creation story
In This Episode:
Microsoft Copilot & Copilot Studio
Riffusion
ChatGPT
Claude
Azure AI Foundry
Service Now
Bolt.new
Cursor
Replit
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The Case Against Rushing AI in School with Pip Sanderson
Pip Sanderson, from the National Institute of Teaching in England, brings a refreshingly balanced perspective from the front lines of AI and education. While many edtech enthusiasts rush to implement AI solutions, Pip challenges us to consider what's at stake in our pursuit of technological efficiency and how we might preserve the human essence of learning. In this thought-provoking conversation, Pip and Paul explore the real impacts of AI on students' cognitive development and the importance of preserving struggle in the learning process.
From the ethical considerations of AI-powered teaching tools to the critical importance of metacognitive skills, this episode offers a nuanced look at technology's role in education. Pip shares insights from recent research suggesting that while AI tools may improve short-term understanding, they potentially limit the development of higher-order thinking skills essential for long-term success. Parents and educators alike will find valuable guidance on navigating today's technology landscape with children's best interests at heart.
You'll Learn:
Why the push for "efficient learning" through AI might be undermining crucial cognitive development
How research shows AI tools may improve short-term understanding but limit higher-order thinking skills
The importance of preserving "desirable difficulty" and struggle in the learning process
Why boredom plays a crucial role in child development that technology often eliminates
How to evaluate the real benefits versus potential harms of AI in educational settings
The danger of schools adopting AI solutions without sufficient understanding of the technology
Practical advice for parents navigating technology decisions with their children
Mentioned in This Episode:
Cognitive Resonance
Books by Bernie Neville
"ChatGPT impacts student engagement from a systematic review and meta-analysis study" by Yuk Mui Elly Heung and Thomas K.F. Chiu
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Zero-Admin Recruiting with Marcus Sawyerr
Marcus Sawyer, EQ app CEO and former Adecco Group X president, is building the AI recruiting revolution he predicted five years ago. In this eye-opening conversation with Paul Estes, Marcus reveals how AI is transforming hiring and Paul shares an experiment where AI ranked his friend's "best" resume dead last. If you're job hunting in 2025, you need these insider tips on getting past AI gatekeepers to land your dream role. From Marcus's "Zero Admin Revolution" mission to his practical OTT framework for implementing AI agents, learn how AI is transforming recruiting while keeping human relationships at the core of the recruiting process.
You'll Learn:
How AI analyzes resumes differently than humans—and what this means for your job search
Why the "Zero Admin Revolution" is transforming recruiting (and how to benefit)
The simple "OTT" framework for understanding and implementing AI agents
Why finding the hiring manager is more crucial than ever in an AI-filtered world
How to distinguish between companies truly solving problems with AI versus those just chasing the next shiny tech tool
The critical first steps anyone can take today to get started with AI (hint: it begins with play!)
Marcus's powerful “10 Ps" planning framework for implementing AI effectively
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Producer: David Grabowski
Theme Music: Aleksey Chistilin
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The Future of Creative Work in an AI-Powered World with Mark Heaps
Mark Heaps went from cutting out photos by hand to shaping AI’s future at Groq—and trust us, he’s got receipts. In this no-filter conversation with Paul Estes, Heaps drops the ultimate truth bomb: AI won’t replace humans, but humans who master AI will replace those who don’t. After a nail-biting story involving his son, a lionfish sting, and an LLM that saved the day, you’ll understand why this creative-turned-tech-exec is convinced we’re just scratching the surface of AI’s potential.
From building basketball team apps on the fly to transforming how we experience NBA games, Heaps breaks down the real-world applications revolutionizing how we live and work. He’s seen creative professionals move from eye-rolling dismissal to existential dread to genuine curiosity—all in 18 months. Get ready for a masterclass in why critical thinking will never go out of style, how latency issues are the real innovation bottleneck, and why your kids should be more worried about developing unique opinions than memorizing facts.
Connect with Mark on X and Instagram @lifebypixels
You’ll Learn:
How the “labor” parts of creative jobs are vanishing (and why that’s not terrible news)
The reason creative professionals have shifted from fear to fascination with AI
Why your R2-D2 and C-3PO moment is coming—and how to be Luke Skywalker in the scenario
The critical skills to future-proof yourself when AI can do almost everything else
How agentic workflows are creating thousand-bot debates that deliver better answers
What parents should tell their kids about navigating an AI-dominated future
Subscribe to the Expert Intelligence podcast so you don’t miss future conversations with industry leaders at the forefront of technological transformation. Each episode brings you practical insights to navigate our rapidly evolving digital landscape.
Producer: David Grabowski
Theme Music: Aleksey Chistilin
The future is here, just not equally distributed.
Join best-selling author and seasoned business leader Paul Estes in ”Expert Intelligence,” a bi-weekly podcast that focuses on the human-centric, AI-enabled approach to work, shedding light on key trends like the freelance revolution, the rise of generative AI and the changing dynamics of the workplace.
With over 20 years of leadership experience at giants like Microsoft, Dell, Amazon, and numerous venture-based startups, Paul brings a wealth of knowledge and a unique perspective. Whether you’re a business leader seeking guidance in this new era or an employee looking for inspiration and insights to navigate complex changes, this podcast is your go-to resource. Paul and his guests offer practical advice and thoughtful analysis to help you understand and adapt to these shifts, ensuring a healthy and productive journey in your professional life.
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