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It's public beta season, which means David and Nilay have been upgrading some devices this week. We talk through the good and bad of our early experiences with Siri AI, and what it'll take for next-gen Siri to be a hit. After that, we discuss the real reason Apple decided to sue OpenAI over trade secrets, OpenAI's forthcoming smart speaker, the new Pixel colors, our emoji strategies, Brendan Carr, and much more.

Further reading:

Apple’s public betas for iOS 27 and more are out now

Siri AI makes the Apple Watch finally feel like a wrist computer

Siri AI is already changing how I use my iPhone

The macOS 27 public beta is worth it just for the Liquid Glass tweaks

Apple sues OpenAI for allegedly stealing hardware secrets

Suno snatched millions of songs from YouTube, Genius, and Deezer

Sam Altman didn’t need another lawsuit

The 6 wildest claims in Apple’s lawsuit against OpenAI

Another turn in the Apple v. OpenAI dispute.

OpenAI has a new statement about Apple’s lawsuit.

OnePlus officially gives up on the US and Europe

OnePlus is dead in the US. Did it ever have a chance?

Samsung shows off ‘brand new shape’ for Z Fold 8 in Spider-Man teaser

OpenAI may announce a ChatGPT smart speaker this year

OpenAI finally launches hardware… for Codex

Pixel Watch 5 leak shows off four different finishes

The Pixel colors might rule this year

The PS6 sure sounds like a handheld

Brendan Carr plans to let broadcast giants dominate the airwaves

X admits its broken algorithm made the site feel like a ‘battleground’

States make last-ditch effort to stop the Paramount ‘media behemoth’

Paramount lead trial counsel on state AG suit: This merger is pro-competitive

The new cracking face emoji might be an all-timer.

Google’s Demis Hassabis says it’s time for a global AI watchdog — led by the US

Google and Epic give up fighting — third-party Android app stores are coming next week

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(Timestamps are approximate.)

00:01:00 Intro

00:02:00 Apple Betas and New Siri

00:08:00 Gemini Car Assistant Fails

00:15:00 Apple Sues OpenAI

00:18:00 Trade Secret Law Explained

00:28:00 Settlement or Long Fight

00:35:00 OpenAI Home Device Doubts

00:42:00 Smartphone Platform Lessons

00:50:00 Pixel Colors and Naming

00:52:00 OnePlus Retreat Explained

00:55:00 Carriers and iPhone Lock In

01:05:00 Brendan Carr Bribery Scandal

01:14:00 Emoji Lightning Round

01:18:00 X Algorithm Rediscovery

01:23:00 Foothills Of Singularity

01:29:00 Paramount Merger Spin

01:33:00 Wrap And Plugs
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AI text detectors have been notoriously unreliable, but that's starting to change. This year, Pangram keeps coming up as the trusted source in identifying AI-written text. We sit down with Pangram CEO Max Spero to find out how the system was made, how much we should trust it, and where the line is between useful AI and AI slop.

Further reading:

OnePlus officially gives up on the US and Europe⁠

⁠Google ordered to open Android and Search to rivals in Europe⁠

⁠Brendan Carr plans to let broadcast giants dominate the airwaves⁠

⁠⁠The literary world isn’t prepared for AI⁠

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Valve's Steam Machine might be exactly the living room console you've been waiting for. Or it might be too expensive, totally pointless, a waste of everyone's money and shelf space. The Verge's Sean Hollister joins the show to talk through all the feedback we've been getting about our coverage and our review. Is Valve's history a pro or a con? Is the price reasonable or ridiculous? Who is this device actually for? We have much to discuss.

Further reading:

Google and Epic give up fighting — third-party Android app stores are coming next week

OpenAI may announce a ChatGPT smart speaker this year

Another turn in the Apple v. OpenAI dispute

⁠The Steam Machine is the most ambitious game console I’ve ever played⁠⁠

⁠⁠The Steam Machine fits my TV, my desk, and my life⁠⁠

⁠⁠Valve will finally let you build your own Steam Machine with SteamOS for desktop⁠⁠

⁠⁠How much would the Steam Machine cost to build?⁠

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AI-generated music is suddenly everywhere. On social media, music streaming services, and elsewhere, stuff made on Suno is becoming unavoidable. The Verge's Terrence O'Brien joins David to talk about where Suno came from, whether it can truly change the way we create and consume music, and how we can and should respond to AI music. We also have some thoughts on whether these songs might someday be bangers.

Further reading:

X admits its broken algorithm made the site feel like a ‘battleground’ | The Verge

The Pixel colors might rule this year | The Verge

Pixel Watch 5 leak shows off four different finishes | The Verge

New York becomes the first state to enact a data center moratorium | The Verge

Suno is a music copyright nightmare

Suno leans into customization with v5.5

Nobody wants to tell me why they only listen to their own Suno slop

Suno’s upgraded AI music generator is technically impressive, but still soulless

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So far, there have been exactly zero great AI-first gadgets. But that hasn't stopped the tech industry from trying to figure out what shape and size these new gadgets might take, and whether any of them can best the device in your pocket. The Verge's Allison Johnson and Victoria Song join David to rank all those shapes, from pendant to smartwatch to rectangle, to see whether there is actually a next big thing out there.

Further reading:

⁠Apple sues OpenAI for allegedly stealing hardware secrets | The Verge⁠

⁠Less is more with the Oura Ring 5 | The Verge⁠

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