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Jo & Vicky
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  • Owning Our Decisions: Reflecting on a Challenging Year at CBA
    DESCRIPTION This year has been one of the hardest we’ve ever had in business. Making the decision to go all in and state publicly that we only work with force-free dog professionals wasn’t easy, but it was the right thing for us, and for the values Canine Business Academy was built on. In this episode, we’re being completely open about what that journey has really looked like. We talk about the uncomfortable moments, the mistakes, the fear, the times we might have come across as egotistical and why we’re choosing to own every part of it. We're sorry to anyone we’ve unintentionally hurt along the way. Growth isn’t clean. It’s messy, confronting and sometimes painful, but it’s also where integrity is tested and the truth gets louder. If you’ve ever had to make a decision that cost you comfort, clients, or approval, this one’s for you. Because standing for something always comes with challenge but it’s how you keep standing that matters. KEY TAKEAWAYS This year, Jo & Vicky took CBA 100% force free and have started saying that in a very clear way. Jo & Vicky slowly and painfully realised that being open to all trainers, while well-intentioned, ultimately put them at odds with their own beliefs about what’s best for dogs.  Before you start, sit down and work out what your personal and work values are and set your business up to fit in with that. If you don´t, you are opening the door to inadvertently upsetting people when you realign your business with your values. Every business goes through challenges, accept that and do your best to be ready to work through them. Be aware of the role fear can play in letting yourself go down the wrong path or avoiding issues that need to be dealt with quickly. Seek out clients that are a good fit for you, in particular when it comes to your core values. BEST MOMENTS “ When we first launched CBA, we didn't have that clear stance,…we are force free trainers.” “It’s almost like we just lost our way.” “We don't work with people who train like that anymore. However, we are not going to accept you talking about people in a derogatory way and tearing people down. That is not what CBA is about.” “We genuinely do care, and we genuinely do want to support .” “Just be unapologetically you, because that's all you can be. And if you piss people off along the way, it will be unintentionally, but hopefully that forgiveness can come back.” “We were cutting off our nose to spite our face hugely…our words and our actions weren’t matching up.” SOCIALS AND IMPORTANT LINKS https://www.tiktok.com/@letstalkdogbusiness https://www.youtube.com/@LetsTalkDogBusiness Website www.caninebusinessacademy.com Community Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/caninebusinessacademycommunity/ Let´s Talk Dog Business Strategy Book - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lets-Talk-Dog-Business-Strategy/dp/1068791705 Email [email protected] ABOUT THE HOSTS We’re Jo Moorcroft and Vicky Davies. Force-free dog trainers, business strategists and co-founders of Canine Business Academy. Collectively, we’ve been dog training for nearly three decades, built a six-figure dog training business, and grown CBA into a multi–six-figure global brand, all while raising kids, a university degree and life life'ing. Featured on BBC, FOX and NBC, and authors of Let’s Talk Dog Business Strategy. Giving a shit is the strategy. Getting shit done is the method. This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
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  • How to build a business without losing your life with Jeff Mask
    DESCRIPTION Running a dog business can sometimes feel like you’re giving everything; your time, your energy, your weekends and still wondering when life’s meant to happen and it's all just suddenly going to feel like you've made it and got it right. In this episode, we’re joined by Jeff Mask, firstly, an incredible human being, he's a coach, mentor, and someone who’s become a hugely important person in our lives.  Together we discuss how easy it is to get trapped in overworking, people-pleasing, and trying to control everything and how those habits quietly cost us as business owners the very life we’re working so hard for. We talk about what it really takes to build a business that gives you more freedom, not less, and how to protect your time, your relationships, and your sanity while you grow. KEY TAKEAWAYS Remember – You are building a business for freedom – not for burnout. Chasing “work-life balance” is a losing game, it´s unattainable, but achieving harmony between your home and work life is realistic.  Overworking and people-pleasing might feel necessary, but they’re not. Both of those habits are quietly robbing you of the life you’re working so hard to build. Knowing your “why” fuels you to set boundaries, say no, and stop scratting for scraps. Freedom in business isn’t handed to you; it’s earned by making tough choices about what you’ll do (and what you won’t). Religiously time block and protect space for your most important people, not just your to-do list. It’s not about the hours you work, but where you put your focus.  Use the 80/20 rule to focus on what moves your business forward. Then, let go of the rest. Plan “bookends” around big work commitments, dedicating quality time before and after with loved ones to show they come first. True harmony happens when your family knows the “music” you’re playing, not just the hours you’re working. Open, honest conversations, especially at home, are non-negotiable. Your loved ones can’t support you if they’re kept in the dark BEST MOMENTS “Busyness and productiveness are not synonymous, but often our brains and our egos don't know the difference.” "Almost always, what holds us back from actually doing what we say we'll do, as far as balancing a great business and home life, is fear." “Love is spelled T, I, M, E …  It's really hard for people, especially kids, to feel that they're loved when you're not there. "Which wolf are you feeding right now ?... The one that's dark and negative and critical, or the one that's light and love and gratitude and abundance?... The wolf that is fed will win." ABOUT THE GUEST https://www.jeffmask.com SOCIALS AND IMPORTANT LINKS https://www.tiktok.com/@letstalkdogbusiness https://www.youtube.com/@LetsTalkDogBusiness Website www.caninebusinessacademy.com Community Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/caninebusinessacademycommunity/ Let´s Talk Dog Business Strategy Book - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lets-Talk-Dog-Business-Strategy/dp/1068791705 Email [email protected] ABOUT THE HOSTS We’re Jo Moorcroft and Vicky Davies. Force-free dog trainers, business strategists and co-founders of Canine Business Academy. Collectively, we’ve been dog training for nearly three decades, built a six-figure dog training business, and grown CBA into a multi–six-figure global brand, all while raising kids, a university degree and life life'ing. Featured on BBC, FOX and NBC, and authors of Let’s Talk Dog Business Strategy. Giving a shit is the strategy. Getting shit done is the method. This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
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  • They Don’t Think You’re Expensive. You Do
    Description: It’s not your prices that are the problem, it’s what you believe about them. Dog professionals tell us all the time: “People won’t pay that.” But the truth is people aren't saying that. You are. In this episode, we talk about the mindset, money stories and hidden fears that stop brilliant dog professionals charging what they’re worth. You’ll hear: The iceberg of selling and what’s hiding under the surface How your beliefs shape every sales conversation Why “I can’t charge that much” is the biggest lie you tell yourself How to stop pricing from fear and start pricing from value What happens when you finally own your worth Selling isn’t about pushing. WE COVER:  The biggest mindset blockers we see around selling and how to recognise and get rid of them.  The reason the belief that “people won’t pay xyz” nearly always turns out not to be true - just something you´ve got used to telling yourself.  The Gucci vs Poundland analogy you didn’t know you needed.  How your thoughts, emotions and behaviours are all connected under the surface.  How to spot when your actions and beliefs don’t match.  Why if your actions and beliefs don’t match, you’ll feel the wobble, every time and what to do about it.  Why the price clients have in mind when they approach you is largely down to how you market, message, and position your business. BEST MOMENTS “If the pain is high enough, if the problem is big enough, they will find the money.” “Those prices should already be double. I know my mortgage is, everything is so why not anything else?- It´s not because dog training (pricing) is stuck in the 90s .” “It comes right back down to the bottom of the iceberg … what you are believing.” “This all goes back into that below the iceberg bit, because you can have shitty beliefs which lead to shitty thoughts, which lead to shitty emotions.” “Ask yourself what are you doing when it comes to sales that is not serving you.” We want to know.... Would you listen to a super deep-dive episode? like a full-on, Stephen Bartlett-length kind of thing? Please let us know by sending us a quick “do a long Stephen Bartlett or no f**king way” message to:[email protected]. SOCIALS AND IMPORTANT LINKS https://www.tiktok.com/@letstalkdogbusiness https://www.youtube.com/@LetsTalkDogBusiness Website www.caninebusinessacademy.com Community Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/caninebusinessacademycommunity/ Let´s Talk Dog Business Strategy Book - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lets-Talk-Dog-Business- Strategy/dp/1068791705 Email [email protected] ABOUT THE HOSTS We’re Jo Moorcroft and Vicky Davies. Force-free dog trainers, business strategists and co- founders of Canine Business Academy. Collectively, we’ve been dog training for nearly three decades, built a six-figure dog training business, and grown CBA into a multi–six-figure global brand, all while raising kids, a university degree and life life'ing. Featured on BBC, FOX and NBC, and authors of Let’s Talk Dog Business Strategy. Giving a shit is the strategy. Getting shit done is the method. This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
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  • Force-Free Doesn’t Mean Free. Selling With Integrity
    Description: Most trainers try to sell by posting "So many spaces left to class on XXX", "Want help with your dog, get in touch", essentially “buy my thing"… then wonder why it doesn’t work and convince ourselves that selling is icky. This Selling Season episode shows you how to sell every day without being salesy: build trust, show your face and name, mix value with clear asks, and stop keeping your offers a secret. We cover: The CBA jab–jab–jab, right hook (how to balance value with the ask) Why faceless pages kill trust (name, photo, voice — or no sale) Lives with 3 viewers, crickets on posts — and why you keep going Events/shows: how to start real conversations (and stop being a wallflower) The long game: lurkers who read for 6–12 months… then buy Awareness → Authority → Offer: make it easy to choose you Our motto still stands: Giving a shit is the strategy. Getting shit done is the method. For reward-based, force-free trainers who care deeply and want that care to pay off this is how you sell without the ick. KEY TAKEAWAYS Most people feel uncomfortable or “icky” about selling. They don´t want to be salesy, braggy or pushy. Allowing yourself to carry on fearing selling leads to missed opportunities.  Bombarding your audience with constant buy now posts erodes trust. Relentless self-promotion turns people off. Consistently show up, share your story, and let your audience see the real person behind the brand. Focus first on providing value - educate, offer insights, tips and simple solutions.  When trust is established, sales follow naturally – often, after months of “silent” observation by your future clients. Consistent, authentic effort, despite not hearing anything back, eventually pays off. It enables people to trust you. Be realistic. Don´t be disappointed when only a few people actually buy. Not everyone is going to need what you offer. Be patient, and you will sell to those who do need your service. BEST MOMENTS “Selling should not be seen as dirty, as icky.” “If you're selling a service that you wholeheartedly believe in and you know it's going to get a result for somebody, why the hell should you not sell it? .” “There are lots of times where your clients are lurking... you don’t feel like anybody’s watching, but they’ve been watching everything you do.” “If you’re not talking about it, nobody knows anything about it. For me, selling should be something you do every single day.” “Selling should not be, in our opinion, that icky, horrible thing where you’re just ramming something down somebody's neck.” EPISODE RESOURCES Previous sales episode - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/you-cant-help-dogs-if-youre-broke/id1727170978?i=1000731878365 SOCIALS AND IMPORTANT LINKS https://www.tiktok.com/@letstalkdogbusiness https://www.youtube.com/@LetsTalkDogBusiness Website www.caninebusinessacademy.com Community Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/caninebusinessacademycommunity/ Let´s Talk Dog Business Strategy Book - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lets-Talk-Dog-Business-Strategy/dp/1068791705 Email [email protected] ABOUT THE HOSTS We’re Jo Moorcroft and Vicky Davies. Force-free dog trainers, business strategists and co-founders of Canine Business Academy. Collectively, we’ve been dog training for nearly three decades, built a six-figure dog training business, and grown CBA into a multi–six-figure global brand, all while raising kids, a university degree and life life'ing. Featured on BBC, FOX and NBC, and authors of Let’s Talk Dog Business Strategy. Giving a shit is the strategy. Getting shit done is the method. This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
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  • You Can't Help Dogs if You're Broke
    DESCRIPTION: We’re diving deep into what ethical sales really look like when you care about dogs, people, and doing business the right way. We break down: Why cash is the lifeblood of your business (and not a dirty word) How to be the bouncer of your own nightclub i.e. who gets in, who doesn’t Why cramming your packages with PDFs and “extras” isn’t value, results are We also talk money mindset, confidence, taking payment on the call, and how to drop that “please don’t answer” panic before every discovery chat. You can care deeply and charge properly. It's not selling out, it's running a sustainable, ethical business that helps more dogs and humans long-term. Giving a shit is the strategy. Getting shit done is the method. KEY TAKEAWAYS There really is nothing “icky” about sales. If you have something someone needs, you are actually doing them a good turn by telling them about it. Selling with purpose means offering your services in a way that genuinely serves your clients, while aligning with your values. The aim is to make sales that benefits everyone involved. When you know you truly have the solution that person is seeking, selling becomes much easier.  Focusing on delivering real value and results, automatically leads to financial success. Build your confidence in the service you offer. If something needs tweaking to make it better, tweak it. Don´t sell by undervaluing what you have to offer. Each sale needs to be a genuine win-win. Both you and your client need to get something of value from the transaction. Ensure you are targeting people you can genuinely help and that you are happy to work with. It is far easier to sell a simple, highly targeted service than it is to try to sell something complicated. Make it really quick and easy for the person to pay. BEST MOMENTS “We are talking about selling with purpose.” "I don't want to be the world's best kept secret, because it doesn't help anybody." "It really baffles my brain that as business owners, we think that selling is a bad thing."  "Why can't you make money and still be the most caring person ever?" "If all the win is for the client and you're losing out, how is that sustainable?" "You will burn yourself out. You'll overwhelm yourself, you'll wish you hadn't included all that stuff that you've included." SOCIALS AND IMPORTANT LINKS https://www.tiktok.com/@letstalkdogbusiness https://www.youtube.com/@LetsTalkDogBusiness Website www.caninebusinessacademy.com Community Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/caninebusinessacademycommunity/ Let´s Talk Dog Business Strategy Book - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lets-Talk-Dog-Business-Strategy/dp/1068791705 Email [email protected] ABOUT THE HOSTS We’re Jo Moorcroft and Vicky Davies. Force-free dog trainers, business strategists and co-founders of Canine Business Academy. Collectively, we’ve been dog training for nearly three decades, built a six-figure dog training business, and grown CBA into a multi–six-figure global brand, all while raising kids, a university degree and life life'ing. Featured on BBC, FOX and NBC, and authors of Let’s Talk Dog Business Strategy. Giving a shit is the strategy. Getting shit done is the method. This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
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The ultimate hub for dog business enthusiasts! Join hosts Jo and Vicky as they unravel the entrepreneurial journey within the canine realm. This podcast delves deep into the business side of owning a dog business, spotlighting inspiring stories of individuals who've seamlessly woven their passion into a profitable lifestyle. Tune in for candid discussions on the human behaviour behind dogs, strategies to attract dream clients, and a behind-the-scenes look at Jo and Vicky's collaborative training ventures. Get ready for client interviews, tales behind the dogs, and insightful perspectives from actual dog owners on what they seek in a trainer. This is your go-to source for navigating the dynamic world where business meets the wagging tails.
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