The Detangled Podcast

• Ep.11 Meet The Maker - Dr Syed

  In this special bonus episode of The Detangled Podcast, hosts Jacqui McIntosh and Louis Driver sit down with Dr. Ali N. Syed, founder and CEO of Avlon Industries, to explore the science, innovation, and legacy behind some of the most iconic textured hair products in the world.With over 45 patents, Dr. Syed is a true pioneer in textured haircare, having developed brands such as Affirm, KeraCare, As I Am, and Uberliss. He shares his personal journey, from his early passion for hair in the 1970s to the development of cutting-edge technologies focused on curl protection, scalp health, and hair growth.The conversation highlights the global diversity of curly and coily textures, the future of hair science, and the launch of his book Curly Hair, a comprehensive guide rooted in decades of research and salon experience.Key Topics CoveredDr. Syed’s journey into hair science and why he specialised in curly and coily hairThe power of patents and how innovation shapes the future of textured haircareScientific insights into curl formation, keratin-associated proteins, and hair damage preventionWhy scalp health is foundational, including microbiome balance and product developmentThe evolution of iconic brands: Affirm, As I Am, and UberlissThe inspiration behind his book Curly Hair and what it offers to stylists and consumers alikeThe ongoing pursuit of natural ingredients and advanced product formulationsStay Connected:If you enjoyed this episode, follow, subscribe, and leave us a review. Join the conversation with us on social media:Avlon Europe: @avlonuk Avlon: @avlonHosts: Jacqui McIntosh – @jacqui.mcintosh Louis Driver – @louisdoeshairGuest: Dr. Ali N. Syed, Founder & CEOProduction CreditsProducers: Louis Driver & Jacqui McIntoshRecorded at: London Podcast Studios @londonpodcaststudiosCover Artwork Illustration: Habiba Nabisubi @bibanabiCover Design: Louis DriverWebsite: www.avloneurope.co.uk

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• Ep 10. Myths, Legend, and Language

  In this informative episode of The Detangled Podcast by Avlon, Louis Driver and Jacqui McIntosh explore the often-overlooked foundation of healthy hair: the scalp. With Jacqui’s expertise as a trichologist, they take a deep dive into common ingredients, myths, and misconceptions surrounding curly and coily hair care. From decoding industry buzzwords like sulfates, silicones, alcohols, and proteins, to clarifying the importance of pH balance, scalp hygiene, and damage prevention, this episode offers a much-needed demystification of textured hair maintenance. Whether you're a seasoned stylist or someone navigating your own hair journey, Episode 10 is a masterclass in informed, science-led care.Key Topics CoveredScalp HealthWhy scalp care is essential to hair growth and integrity.Common conditions like seborrheic dermatitis, folliculitis, and fungal infections.The role of hygiene, product choice, and professional assessments in prevention.The importance of seeing a trichologist Ingredient Deep Dive: Myth-Busting and Best PracticesSulphates: Often demonised, but still useful in removing heavy buildup when used appropriately.Silicones: Beneficial for textured hair if water-soluble and well-formulated.Alcohols: Differentiating between fatty alcohols (moisturising) and short-chain alcohols (drying) based on hair type.Proteins: Used to rebuild strength and elasticity, but require a moisture balance to prevent brittleness or breakage.pH Balance & Product ScienceUnderstanding the pH scale (0–14), and why shampoos for textured hair should fall between 4.5–5.5.The difference between neutralising (locks structure, e.g., in perms) and normalising (restores pH, e.g., post-chemical treatments).Damage vs. CompromiseRedefining “damage” in client conversations to “compromised” to reduce stigma.Examples of common, often overlooked forms of damage: improper detangling, wet brushing, buildup, and poor product use.Protective PracticesThe importance of leave-in conditioning, heat protection, and layering moisture at every stage of the process.Stay ConnectedFollow the hosts:Louis Driver: @louisdoeshairJacqui McIntosh: @jacqui.mcintoshFollow Avlon:Avlon Europe: @AvloneuropeAvlon: @AvlonProduction CreditsProducers: Louis Driver & Jacqui McIntoshRecorded at: London Podcast StudiosCover Artwork Illustration: @bibanabiCover Design: Louis DriverWebsite: www.avloneurope.co.uk

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• EP.9 Curls, Coils and Colour

  In this episode of The Detangled Podcast, co-hosts Jacqui McIntosh and Louis Driver are joined by Hannah Marcia to break down the essentials of colouring curly and coily hair. They explore the science behind textured hair, common colour myths, practical tips for stylists, and how to achieve stunning colour results without compromising curl integrity.Key Topics CoveredTextured Hair Structure: Curls have more open cuticles, making them lift quicker—but also more prone to damage. A “lower and slower” approach helps protect the hair.Placement & Technique: Traditional foil methods often fall short. Use visual, freehand techniques to work with the 3D nature of curls.Warm Tones: Gold and warm tones enhance shine on curls, which reflect less light than straighter textures. Clients should be educated about realistic outcomes.Product Choice Matters: High-lift tints, direct dyes, and bond builders offer gentle alternatives to bleach. Go in with intention—know your “why” behind every product.Myth-Busting: Colour doesn’t automatically loosen curl patterns. Overlapping or incorrect processing causes damage—not colour itself.Aftercare Is Essential: Moisture, protein, heat protection, and salon check-ins extend colour life and maintain curl health.Client Communication: Transparency is key. Stylists can’t protect hair they don’t know the history of. Educate clients on maintenance and realistic colour goals.Creating Dimension: Leaving sections out of colour is as important as what’s coloured—depth enhances curl definition and longevity.Formulation Strategy: Consider porosity and how textured hair reflects tone. Add warmth and pigment to prevent flat, dull results.Hero Products & Pro TipsLouis’s Picks:Uberliss Bond Healing Spray + Frizz Elixir: The ultimate combo for post-colour care—moisture, protection, and shine without weight.Hannah’s Pick:Uberliss Colour Sustainers: Great for maintaining tone at home, adding pigment and moisture between salon visits.Pro Tips:Louis: Always weigh formulas for accuracy—consistency matters, especially on fragile textures.Hannah: Be intentional—match your lightener or tint to the goal and always prioritise hair health.Stay ConnectedAvlon Europe: @avlonuk Avlon: @avlon Hosts: Jacqui McIntosh & Louis Driver (@louisdoeshair) Guest: Hannah Marcia (@hannahmarciaa) Website: www.avloneurope.co.ukProduced by: Jacqui McIntosh & Louis Driver Artwork: Habiba Nabisubi (@bibanabi) Design: Louis Driver Recorded at: London Podcast Studios

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• Ep.8 Texture On Set

  In this insightful episode of The Detangled Podcast, co-hosts Louis Driver and Jacqui McIntosh are joined by award-winning session stylist and educator Junior Green, along with returning guest Avlon Creative Pashcan'el Mitchell to explore the realities of working with textured hair on set.Together, they unpack the creative, technical and logistical challenges of delivering hair excellence in fast-paced editorial, TV and film environments. From Bridgerton to BAFTA red carpets, the episode spotlights the skills and adaptability required to represent texture authentically and professionally. Whether you're a new stylist, an aspiring session artist or an educator, this episode offers grounded wisdom, career advice, and inspiration for navigating textured hair work beyond the salon.Key Topics CoveredWhat “texture on set” really means in professional settingsThe ongoing challenges of styling afro hair in editorial, fashion, TV and filmExperiences working on major productions like BridgertonWhy core hairdressing skills (setting, pinning, classic dressing) still matterThe time disparity when styling afro-textured hair vs. European texturesEquipment must-haves and how to prepare for unpredictable working conditionsThe role of mentorship and lifelong learning in a stylist’s journeyBuilding collections: structured planning vs. spontaneous creativityIndustry icons, sources of inspiration and the legacy of textured hair in visual mediaStay ConnectedAvlon Europe: @avlonukAvlon: @avlonHosts: Jacqui McIntosh & Louis DriverGuests: Junior Green @juniorgreenhair & Pashcanell Mitchell @pashcanelProduction CreditsProducers: Louis Driver & Jacqui McIntoshRecorded at: London Podcast StudiosCover Artwork Illustration: Habiba Nabisubi @bibanabiWebsite: www.avloneurope.co.uk

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• Ep.7 Texture SOS

  In this essential episode of The Detangled Podcast, co-hosts Louis Driver and Jacqui McIntosh are joined by hair stylists and educators Lathaniel Chambers and Pashcan'el Mitchell to explore the world of smoothing systems. Whether you're a professional looking to refine your practice or a client curious about options, this episode breaks down the key methods used to smooth textured hair and the responsibilities that come with them.Together, the panel unpacks the differences between relaxers, texturizers, and silk presses, offering expert insights on consultation, client suitability, and the myths and realities surrounding these techniques. The conversation also delves into aftercare, education gaps, and the evolving attitudes toward chemically and thermally altered hair textures in salons and online spaces.Expect informed discussion, practical tips, and thoughtful reflection on how smoothing services can be delivered safely, ethically, and with respect for the hair’s natural integrity.Key Topics CoveredThe differences between relaxers, texturizers, and silk pressesThe history and cultural perceptions of smoothing systemsThe importance of honest consultation and professional assessmentRecognising when smoothing services are or aren’t appropriateOnline misinformation and its impact on client expectationsProduct selection and hair preparation for smoothing servicesTraining gaps and continuing education for stylistsManaging transitions from chemical to natural texturesHero Products & Pro TipsUse of neutralising shampoos to protect the hair post-relaxerHow heat protectants enhance longevity and safety during silk pressesThe role of conditioning treatments before and after chemical servicesTips for avoiding over-processing and maintaining healthy hairStay Connected:If you enjoyed this episode, follow, subscribe, and leave us a review. Join the conversation with us on social media:Avlon Europe: @avlonuk Avlon: @avlonHosts: Jacqui McIntosh – @jacqui.mcintosh Louis Driver – @louisdoeshairGuest: Lathaniel: @lathanielscouture Pash: @pashcanelProduction CreditsProducers: Louis Driver & Jacqui McIntoshRecorded at: London Podcast Studios @londonpodcaststudiosCover Artwork Illustration: Habiba Nabisubi @bibanabiCover Design: Louis DriverWebsite: www.avloneurope.co.uk

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