The Detangled Podcast

In this special bonus episode of The Detangled Podcast, Louis and Jacqui pause to reflect on the year that has passed, both personally and professionally, and take stock of the moments, conversations, and developments that have shaped their work.
They revisit key highlights from the year, including the growth of the podcast, live education moments, international projects, and the evolving direction of education within Avlon. Through open conversation, they explore how the brand continues to push boundaries, respond to the changing landscape of the hair industry, and remain rooted in science-led, inclusive haircare.
The episode also looks ahead, with Louis and Jacqui sharing insights into what is next, from the evolution of education and professional standards to future projects, collaborations, and the next phase of The Detangled Podcast. Thoughtful, reflective, and future-facing, this bonus episode offers listeners a behind-the-scenes look at a brand and partnership in motion.
Key Topics Covered
Reflecting on the past year and its defining moments
Growth and reception of The Detangled Podcast
Education, innovation, and science-led haircare at Avlon
International work, live education, and community building
The importance of professional standards and continued learning
Looking ahead to future projects, education pathways, and Season Two
Stay Connected
Follow the hosts: Louis Driver: @louisdoeshair Jacqui McIntosh: @jacqui.mcintosh
Follow Avlon: Avlon Europe: @Avlonuk Avlon: @Avlon
Production Credits
Producers: Louis Driver & Jacqui McIntosh Artwork Illustration: @bibanabi Cover Design: Louis Driver

In this special bonus episode of The Detangled Podcast, hosts Jacqui McIntosh and Louis Driver sit down with Dr. Ali N. Syed, founder and CEO of Avlon Industries, to explore the science, innovation, and legacy behind some of the most iconic textured hair products in the world.
With over 45 patents, Dr. Syed is a true pioneer in textured haircare, having developed brands such as Affirm, KeraCare, As I Am, and Uberliss. He shares his personal journey, from his early passion for hair in the 1970s to the development of cutting-edge technologies focused on curl protection, scalp health, and hair growth.
The conversation highlights the global diversity of curly and coily textures, the future of hair science, and the launch of his book Curly Hair, a comprehensive guide rooted in decades of research and salon experience.
Key Topics Covered
Dr. Syed’s journey into hair science and why he specialised in curly and coily hair
The power of patents and how innovation shapes the future of textured haircare
Scientific insights into curl formation, keratin-associated proteins, and hair damage prevention
Why scalp health is foundational, including microbiome balance and product development
The evolution of iconic brands: Affirm, As I Am, and Uberliss
The inspiration behind his book Curly Hair and what it offers to stylists and consumers alike
The ongoing pursuit of natural ingredients and advanced product formulations
Stay Connected:
If you enjoyed this episode, follow, subscribe, and leave us a review. Join the conversation with us on social media:
Avlon Europe: @avlonuk Avlon: @avlon
Hosts: Jacqui McIntosh – @jacqui.mcintosh Louis Driver – @louisdoeshair
Guest: Dr. Ali N. Syed, Founder & CEO
Production Credits
Producers: Louis Driver & Jacqui McIntosh
Recorded at: London Podcast Studios @londonpodcaststudios
Cover Artwork Illustration: Habiba Nabisubi @bibanabi
Cover Design: Louis Driver
Website: www.avloneurope.co.uk

In this episode of The Detangled Podcast, co-hosts Jacqui McIntosh and Louis Driver are joined by Hannah Marcia to break down the essentials of colouring curly and coily hair. They explore the science behind textured hair, common colour myths, practical tips for stylists, and how to achieve stunning colour results without compromising curl integrity.
Key Topics Covered
Textured Hair Structure: Curls have more open cuticles, making them lift quicker—but also more prone to damage. A “lower and slower” approach helps protect the hair.
Placement & Technique: Traditional foil methods often fall short. Use visual, freehand techniques to work with the 3D nature of curls.
Warm Tones: Gold and warm tones enhance shine on curls, which reflect less light than straighter textures. Clients should be educated about realistic outcomes.
Product Choice Matters: High-lift tints, direct dyes, and bond builders offer gentle alternatives to bleach. Go in with intention—know your “why” behind every product.
Myth-Busting: Colour doesn’t automatically loosen curl patterns. Overlapping or incorrect processing causes damage—not colour itself.
Aftercare Is Essential: Moisture, protein, heat protection, and salon check-ins extend colour life and maintain curl health.
Client Communication: Transparency is key. Stylists can’t protect hair they don’t know the history of. Educate clients on maintenance and realistic colour goals.
Creating Dimension: Leaving sections out of colour is as important as what’s coloured—depth enhances curl definition and longevity.
Formulation Strategy: Consider porosity and how textured hair reflects tone. Add warmth and pigment to prevent flat, dull results.
Hero Products & Pro Tips
Louis’s Picks:
Uberliss Bond Healing Spray + Frizz Elixir: The ultimate combo for post-colour care—moisture, protection, and shine without weight.
Hannah’s Pick:
Uberliss Colour Sustainers: Great for maintaining tone at home, adding pigment and moisture between salon visits.
Pro Tips:
Louis: Always weigh formulas for accuracy—consistency matters, especially on fragile textures.
Hannah: Be intentional—match your lightener or tint to the goal and always prioritise hair health.
Stay Connected
Avlon Europe: @avlonuk Avlon: @avlon
Hosts: Jacqui McIntosh & Louis Driver (@louisdoeshair)
Guest: Hannah Marcia (@hannahmarciaa)
Website: www.avloneurope.co.uk
Produced by: Jacqui McIntosh & Louis Driver
Artwork: Habiba Nabisubi (@bibanabi)
Design: Louis Driver
Recorded at: London Podcast Studios

In this informative episode of The Detangled Podcast by Avlon, Louis Driver and Jacqui McIntosh explore the often-overlooked foundation of healthy hair: the scalp. With Jacqui’s expertise as a trichologist, they take a deep dive into common ingredients, myths, and misconceptions surrounding curly and coily hair care. From decoding industry buzzwords like sulfates, silicones, alcohols, and proteins, to clarifying the importance of pH balance, scalp hygiene, and damage prevention, this episode offers a much-needed demystification of textured hair maintenance. Whether you're a seasoned stylist or someone navigating your own hair journey, Episode 10 is a masterclass in informed, science-led care.
Key Topics Covered
Scalp HealthWhy scalp care is essential to hair growth and integrity.
Common conditions like seborrheic dermatitis, folliculitis, and fungal infections.
The role of hygiene, product choice, and professional assessments in prevention.
The importance of seeing a trichologist

Ingredient Deep Dive: Myth-Busting and Best PracticesSulphates: Often demonised, but still useful in removing heavy buildup when used appropriately.
Silicones: Beneficial for textured hair if water-soluble and well-formulated.
Alcohols: Differentiating between fatty alcohols (moisturising) and short-chain alcohols (drying) based on hair type.
Proteins: Used to rebuild strength and elasticity, but require a moisture balance to prevent brittleness or breakage.

pH Balance & Product ScienceUnderstanding the pH scale (0–14), and why shampoos for textured hair should fall between 4.5–5.5.
The difference between neutralising (locks structure, e.g., in perms) and normalising (restores pH, e.g., post-chemical treatments).

Damage vs. CompromiseRedefining “damage” in client conversations to “compromised” to reduce stigma.
Examples of common, often overlooked forms of damage: improper detangling, wet brushing, buildup, and poor product use.

Protective PracticesThe importance of leave-in conditioning, heat protection, and layering moisture at every stage of the process.

Stay Connected
Follow the hosts:
Louis Driver: @louisdoeshair
Jacqui McIntosh: @jacqui.mcintosh
Follow Avlon:
Avlon Europe: @Avloneurope
Avlon: @Avlon
Production Credits
Producers: Louis Driver & Jacqui McIntosh
Recorded at: London Podcast Studios
Cover Artwork Illustration: @bibanabi
Cover Design: Louis Driver
Website: www.avloneurope.co.uk

In this essential episode of The Detangled Podcast, co-hosts Louis Driver and Jacqui McIntosh are joined by hair stylists and educators Lathaniel Chambers and Pashcan'el Mitchell to explore the world of smoothing systems. Whether you're a professional looking to refine your practice or a client curious about options, this episode breaks down the key methods used to smooth textured hair and the responsibilities that come with them.
Together, the panel unpacks the differences between relaxers, texturizers, and silk presses, offering expert insights on consultation, client suitability, and the myths and realities surrounding these techniques. The conversation also delves into aftercare, education gaps, and the evolving attitudes toward chemically and thermally altered hair textures in salons and online spaces.
Expect informed discussion, practical tips, and thoughtful reflection on how smoothing services can be delivered safely, ethically, and with respect for the hair’s natural integrity.
Key Topics Covered
The differences between relaxers, texturizers, and silk presses
The history and cultural perceptions of smoothing systems
The importance of honest consultation and professional assessment
Recognising when smoothing services are or aren’t appropriate
Online misinformation and its impact on client expectations
Product selection and hair preparation for smoothing services
Training gaps and continuing education for stylists
Managing transitions from chemical to natural textures
Hero Products & Pro Tips
Use of neutralising shampoos to protect the hair post-relaxer
How heat protectants enhance longevity and safety during silk presses
The role of conditioning treatments before and after chemical services
Tips for avoiding over-processing and maintaining healthy hair
Stay Connected:
If you enjoyed this episode, follow, subscribe, and leave us a review. Join the conversation with us on social media:
Avlon Europe: @avlonuk Avlon: @avlon
Hosts: Jacqui McIntosh – @jacqui.mcintosh Louis Driver – @louisdoeshair
Guest: Lathaniel: @lathanielscouture Pash: @pashcanel
Production Credits
Producers: Louis Driver & Jacqui McIntosh
Recorded at: London Podcast Studios @londonpodcaststudios
Cover Artwork Illustration: Habiba Nabisubi @bibanabi
Cover Design: Louis Driver
Website: www.avloneurope.co.uk