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Mess World

Jessica DeFino
Mess World
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  • Mess World

    All About That Treble

    04/09/2026 | 1h 25 mins.
    We’re back with a new episode of Mess World, a podcast collaboration between FLESH WORLD (by me, Jessica DeFino) and I (a fashion newsletter from Emily Kirkpatrick).
    Today we’re talking about: The John Galliano Met Gala mess [2:58], a new perfume named White Blood [20:18], Klutz-core plastic gems [33:50], the trouble with r.e.m. beauty and Ariana Grande [43:06], justice for the Chanel barefoot shoes [59:30], misinterpreted data from the Reddit People’s Beauty Index [1:09:47], Brooks Nader’s Gucci pap walk [1:16:57], and ads for chemical peels in medical clinics [1:21:44]. Plus more!
    Media we mentioned: “Galliano Goes Bye-Bye? Yeah, No S**t.” [Brain Matter], Monsters: A Fan’s Dilemma [Claire Dederer], “What Does MAGA Smell Like?” [Dazed], Our Aesthetic Categories: Zany, Cute, Interesting [Sianne Ngai], “Ariana Grande’s Fans Have Two Bad Options Right Now” [Slate], “Ariana Grande and the Disappointment of Diagnosis” [The New Yorker], “Ariana Grande and the Shadow of My Own Thinness” [Wall Street Journal], Ways of Seeing [John Berger]
    Also: We’re on YouTube now, for those who prefer to watch their podcasts!
    About the podcast: Mess World is a podcast by Jessica DeFino and Emily Kirkpatrick that takes a critical look at the dregs of pop culture. Jessica is the writer behind FLESH WORLD, which has been called the newsletter “the beauty industry fears,” and Emily is the creator of I , a weekly roundup of the best of the worst celebrity fashion. Together, they dissect the biggest and dumbest celebrity happenings every month and give their unfiltered opinion on everything going on in the world of fashion and beauty.
    Subscribe to receive future podcast posts in your inbox:

    About the theme music: The Mess World theme song is “Hot Mess” by Carly Lind. Find more about Carly here and listen to her music here.


    This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit jessicadefino.substack.com/subscribe
  • Mess World

    All Aboard The Glambulance!

    07/08/2026 | 1h 40 mins.
    We’re back with a new episode of Mess World, a podcast collaboration between FLESH WORLD (by me, Jessica DeFino) and I (a fashion newsletter from Emily Kirkpatrick).
    Today we’re talking about: The next Lowbrow Book Club read [4:00], Marie Claire Australia’s AI faux pas [9:01], the whole Jessica vs. Jia Tolentino mess [22:15], insider intel re: Travis Kelce’s wedding outfit (it’s rough) [35:45], Caroline Calloway’s “nothing tastes as good as fraudulently-acquired Ozempic feels” essay [50:46], the rise of sea hag-esque shredded gowns [59:40], embodiment vs. “embottlement” [1:11:09], is Aaron Rogers dating an AI chatbot?? [1:16:03], a feminist argument for critiquing influencers [1:18:00], an ode to Jimothy [1:30:54], and a takedown of Tarte’s Glambulance [1:33:12]. Plus more!
    Media we mentioned: Ways of Seeing [John Berger], GET OFF MY HOLE! bumper stickers [FLESH WORLD], “They Used GLP-1s to Lose Weight. They Ended Up in Treatment for Anorexia.” [WSJ], “A Completely Smooth Forehead Is Out. ‘Strategic Wrinkles’ Are In.” [WSJ], “Everyone Wants to Smell Like a Pretty Kitty This Summer” [Byrdie], Perfection [Vincenzo Latronico]
    Also: We’re on YouTube now, for those who prefer to watch their podcasts!
    About the podcast: Mess World is a podcast by Jessica DeFino and Emily Kirkpatrick that takes a critical look at the dregs of pop culture. Jessica is the writer behind FLESH WORLD, which has been called the newsletter “the beauty industry fears,” and Emily is the creator of I , a weekly roundup of the best of the worst celebrity fashion. Together, they dissect the biggest and dumbest celebrity happenings every month and give their unfiltered opinion on everything going on in the world of fashion and beauty.
    Subscribe to receive future podcast posts in your inbox:

    About the theme music: The Mess World theme song is “Hot Mess” by Carly Lind. Find more about Carly here and listen to her music here.


    This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit jessicadefino.substack.com/subscribe
  • Mess World

    Clear Eyes, Pink Nips, Can't Lose

    03/07/2026 | 1h 39 mins.
    We’re back with a new episode of Mess World, a podcast collaboration between FLESH WORLD (by me, Jessica DeFino) and I (a fashion newsletter from Emily Kirkpatrick).
    Today we’re talking about: A new pink tint for your nipples [0:50], the delightful fashions of the Pornhub Awards [9:00], the beauty industry’s hottest new collab: billboards x your body [28:20], red carpet publicity stunts [37:11], a bizarre Blake Lively pap walk [44:30], Clavicular’s plastic surgeon wrote a children’s book about liposuction [51:00], the battle of the smart glasses (everyone loses) [1:07:00], s**t-talking QR codes [1:30:07], and “glowing down” [1:33:15]. Plus more!
    Media we mentioned: “Mother F*cker” [The Cut], “The Must-Have Lingerie According to New York City Strippers” [Interview], “The Madonna Interview” [Interview], “Dr. Miami Speaks Out After Ex-Employee Calls Him ‘Erratic,’ Claims He Encouraged Her to Get Liposuction” [People], “Jewish plastic surgeon in trouble over ‘Jewcan Sam’ video” [The Washington Post], “The Search for Mark Zuckerberg’s Mystery Stylist” [Vanity Fair], “Woman Accuses Tech of Wearing Meta Recording Glasses During Her Brazilian Wax” [VICE], “Will We Ever Burn Out On Beauty?” [Vogue Business], our guest appearance on the Too Niche? podcast
    Also: We’re on YouTube now, for those who prefer to watch their podcasts!
    About the podcast: Mess World is a podcast by Jessica DeFino and Emily Kirkpatrick that takes a critical look at the dregs of pop culture. Jessica is the writer behind FLESH WORLD, which has been called the newsletter “the beauty industry fears,” and Emily is the creator of I , a weekly roundup of the best of the worst celebrity fashion. Together, they dissect the biggest and dumbest celebrity happenings every month and give their unfiltered opinion on everything going on in the world of fashion and beauty.
    Subscribe to receive future podcast posts in your inbox:

    About the theme music: The Mess World theme song is “Hot Mess” by Carly Lind. Find more about Carly here and listen to her music here.


    This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit jessicadefino.substack.com/subscribe
  • Mess World

    Plastic Surgery Poesy

    09/06/2026 | 2h 20 mins.
    We’re back with a new episode of Mess World, a podcast collaboration between FLESH WORLD (by me, Jessica DeFino) and I (a fashion newsletter from Emily Kirkpatrick).
    Today we’re talking about: The Jeff Koons-ian packaging of the new Marc Jacobs Beauty products [2:00], lip balm for boys inspired by AK-47s [9:27], conjoined twin-core [14:15], accessorizing with teeth [23:30], fake tans vs. suntans [35:00], the final word on James Charles [41:00], a bizarre literary/skincare crossover [1:10:00], a Met Gala recap (Bad Bunny’s aging prosthetics! The Kardashians’ simulated nipples! Eileen Gu’s bubbles!) [1:19:55], the Queen of Cannes [2:05:27], and a dramatic reading of Rosie O’Donnell’s facelift reveal poem [2:08:40]. Plus more!
    Media we mentioned: “Meet The Lipsdick: A Dick-Shaped Lipstick” [FLESH WORLD], “MJ Corey Will Make You Love The Kardashians” [Interview], Someday Perfect [Kat Schneider], Yesteryear [Caro Claire Burke], “Meet The Man Who Gave Bad Bunny Jowls” [Interview]
    Also: We’re on YouTube now, for those who prefer to watch their podcasts!
    About the podcast: Mess World is a podcast by Jessica DeFino and Emily Kirkpatrick that takes a critical look at the dregs of pop culture. Jessica is the writer behind FLESH WORLD, which has been called the newsletter “the beauty industry fears,” and Emily is the creator of I , a weekly roundup of the best of the worst celebrity fashion. Together, they dissect the biggest and dumbest celebrity happenings every month and give their unfiltered opinion on everything going on in the world of fashion and beauty.
    Subscribe to receive future podcast posts in your inbox:

    About the theme music: The Mess World theme song is “Hot Mess” by Carly Lind. Find more about Carly here and listen to her music here.


    This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit jessicadefino.substack.com/subscribe
  • Mess World

    The Cult of Cuteness

    04/05/2026 | 1h 47 mins.
    We’re back with a new episode of Mess World, a podcast collaboration between FLESH WORLD (by me, Jessica DeFino) and I (a fashion newsletter from Emily Kirkpatrick).
    Today we’re talking about: April Fool’s Day beauty products and the death of parody [1:30], even more fowl-inspired fashion [8:13], the return of the joutfit [17:00], diet-culture-beauty-culture mashups (Fat Oil Body Oil!) [24:30], inflatable attire [32:40], the machine behind the Swan Beauty mirror [41:10], Sianne Ngai’s theory of cuteness [58:00], Bieberchella x Hailey Bieber’s Rhode pimple patches and the reign of the digital doppelganger [1:16:00], Kris Jenner’s quest for tautness [1:35:52], and Euphoria makeup madness [1:48:40]. Plus more!
    Media we mentioned: “The rise and rise of ‘dewy dumpling skin’” [Sunday Times], “The Estée Lauder Companies is investing in skin-care technology to fight sugar’s impact on skin” [Glossy], Our Aesthetic Categories [Sianne Ngai], Doppelganger: A Trip into the Mirror World [Naomi Klein], “My Strange Dysphoria” [The Cut], “Inside Kris Jenner’s Facelift-gate” [Puck], The Lowbrow Book Club
    Also: We’re on YouTube now, for those who prefer to watch their podcasts!
    About the podcast: Mess World is a podcast by Jessica DeFino and Emily Kirkpatrick that takes a critical look at the dregs of pop culture. Jessica is the writer behind FLESH WORLD, which has been called the newsletter “the beauty industry fears,” and Emily is the creator of I , a weekly roundup of the best of the worst celebrity fashion. Together, they dissect the biggest and dumbest celebrity happenings every month and give their unfiltered opinion on everything going on in the world of fashion and beauty.
    Subscribe to receive future podcast posts in your inbox:

    About the theme music: The Mess World theme song is “Hot Mess” by Carly Lind. Find more about Carly here and listen to her music here.


    This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit jessicadefino.substack.com/subscribe
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Mess World is a podcast by Jessica DeFino and Emily Kirkpatrick that takes a critical look at the dregs of pop culture. Jessica is the writer behind FLESH WORLD, which has been called the newsletter “the beauty industry fears,” and Emily is the creator of I jessicadefino.substack.com
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