Mamamia Out Loud

The biggest media court case of the year has settled and a famous man has walked away with an extraordinary deal. Mia’s here, so we asked her to business-decode it.
If you could have a trad wife at home, would you? Matchmakers are being asked for a very specific type of partner.
There’s a politician being called the ‘new Obama’ and a) you need to know about him and b) he’s more than a little bit Australian.
And, Tom Holland has admitted he and Zendaya are indeed married. Why do some celebrities keep these things secret, others share their pictures and some get married at (checks notes) Madison Square Garden?
Oh, and the Brooklyn Beckham update packed with Easter eggs.
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Your 5-minute news explainer to get you up to date today.
'I need to talk to the person in charge of Taylor Swift's seating chart.'
Kyle Sandilands was suing for $85 million. This is how much he walked away with.
'My life was the parallel of Ballerina Farm. This is why I'll never be a 'tradwife' again.'
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Outlouders, enjoy this free taster of Mia Freedman, Emily Vernem & Amelia Lester on our subscribers only episode. You can listen to the full conversation: The Ariana Grande Panic
Ariana Grande is on a world tour. She is also on every phone screen in your vicinity right now, her undeniably-tiny body analysed from every angle. 'We must do something' shouts one part of the Internet. 'Stop talking about women’s bodies!' Shouts the other.
And over here, Mia, Holly and Em sit down to unpack the panic around Ariana Grande.
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What To Listen To Next:
Listen to our latest episode: Um, WTF Is Going On With Gwyneth & A Very Beckham Weekend
Listen: The Celebrity Bathroom Debate We Can't Agree On
Listen: THAT Sex Scene in Off Campus. Oh.
Listen: The Knicks, The ‘Witch’ & Can You Say No To Madonna?
Listen: 3 (Celebrity) Weddings And A Guest Drama
Listen: Spoiled Pig Syndrome & Our List Of Things That Are Just Not Working
Listen: Sorry Clare. There’s No Better Time To NOT Have A Baby
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts
Got questions or things you'd like Mia to talk about? Email us at outloud@mamamia.com.au
Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.
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You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see
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What to read:
The problematic evolution of Ariana Grande.
'It's a strange thing.' Everything Ariana Grande has said about her voice changing.
Diet culture is back. But there's one side effect nobody is talking about.
MIA FREEDMAN: Famous women are starving in front of us. We cool with that?
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First order of business: Clare has an apology for the Socceroos. Sort of.
Also: A sliding scale of Gwyneth Paltrow’s recent “bold” decisions, from the silly to the shocking.
Trump got a really good birthday present, we’re not sure what it might cost us.
And, are Australians going to have to let go of swimming in the open ocean?
Plus: A very Beckham weekend culminated in failed bid for sibling reconciliation - in a very public place.
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What To Listen To Next:
Listen to our latest episode: The Celebrity Bathroom Debate We Can't Agree On
Listen: THAT Sex Scene in Off Campus. Oh.
Listen: The Knicks, The ‘Witch’ & Can You Say No To Madonna?
Listen: 3 (Celebrity) Weddings And A Guest Drama
Listen: Spoiled Pig Syndrome & Our List Of Things That Are Just Not Working
Listen: Sorry Clare. There’s No Better Time To NOT Have A Baby
Listen: The Boy ‘Mom’ Trap & Actually, We’ve Met
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts
Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.
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You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see
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What to read:
'As a boy mum, the Beckham scandal is my literal nightmare.'
A pink dress, a handwritten letter and an accusation: The Beckham family feud just got messier.
'Oh Victoria, your husband is not on your team.'
Does the average Australian know this about shark attacks?
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Do you share a bathroom with your partner? Rita Wilson says that's the key to her 38 year marriage to Tom Hanks. Meghan Trainor agrees, while Michelle Obama is completely anti the idea. Clare, Em & Amelia are unpacking why a shared bathroom might actually be the ultimate test of relationship maturity. It’s a hard no from Em.
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Also, there's a new type of influencer making money by simply having no friends. So, is there something problematic about romanticising social isolation, or is filming your solo life a genuine quest for human connection? We discuss.
Plus, ‘You look good for your age’ is meant to be the ultimate compliment, but actually… is it?
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Recommendations
Em recommends Not Suitable For Work on Disney +.
Clare recommends Glazing Milk by Rhode Skin.
Amelia recommends Widows Bay on Apple TV.
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Listen: FREE SUBS TASTER: 3 (Celebrity) Weddings And A Guest Drama
Listen: LITTLE TREAT: What We Wish We'd Never Written On The Internet
Listen: Spoiled Pig Syndrome & Our List Of Things That Are Just Not Working
Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.
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What to read:
Australian Health'I was told it might be perimenopause. Then my doctor saw something he didn't want to see.'
Kane Evans didn't want to live while playing NRL as a gay man. His life was saved with 5 words.
'I accidentally found the perfect Bali holiday for women who are completely exhausted.'
SEX DIARIES: 'The controversial way I found out what good sex should feel like.'
It's been five years since Cleo Smith was abducted from a campsite. This is her life now.
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CREDITS:
Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens & Emily Vernem
Acting Group Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock
Executive Producer: Grace Rouvray
Video Producer: Josh Green
Associate Producer: Tessa Kotowicz
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Sometimes you just need an impromptu therapy session with absolutely no professionals present. From the adult who calls their parents by their first names to the person who orders a salad at a pub, Clare, Amelia and Em are unpacking the exact types of people we just don’t trust.
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Australia’s fertility rate has sunk to a record low, but researchers swear they’ve found the one simple trick to get women to have more babies. It does involve your home office’s proximity to the bedroom, but not quite in the way you might think.
Plus, how are powerful women like Victorian Premier Jacinta Allan still being target with 300 year old Salem tropes like ‘Ditch The Witch’? Julia Gillard, like us, has thoughts.
Also, Madonna just dropped a star-studded 10-minute musical short film called Confessions II. We’re breaking down every single celebrity cameo you might have missed.
And, we explain the reason why Taylor Swift, Timothée Chalamet and Ben Stiller are in orange and blue all over your social media feed.
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What To Listen To Next:
Listen to our latest episode: 3 (Celebrity) Weddings And A Guest Drama
Listen: Spoiled Pig Syndrome & Our List Of Things That Are Just Not Working
Listen: Sorry Clare. There’s No Better Time To NOT Have A Baby
Listen: The Boy ‘Mom’ Trap & Actually, We’ve Met
Listen: The Married People Claiming 'Hot Divorce Energy'
Listen: Don’t Go To Uni, Baby Doll Dresses & The World’s Coolest Wedding Hat
Listen: Reading-Gap Relationships & The 'Daddy' Of It All
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts
Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.
SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media
You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see
Mamamia Out Loud on Apple
What to read:
'Five words from someone I trusted nearly broke me. Here's what I know now.'
HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: Want to start a fight in 3 words? Work from home.
The real reason less of us are having babies in 2025.
Your 5-minute news explainer to get you up to date on June 9, 2026.
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Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.
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